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Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: FFP
« Reply #570 on: January 25, 2024, 06:40:41 AM »
We're 21st in the Deloitte money list. Randy Lerner is semi-tumescent in anticipation of next year.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #571 on: January 25, 2024, 09:13:03 AM »
It's 90% soft cap at the moment, so our spending is capped at £41m given wages. Not sure how sales impact it, guess they do.

Explains why we have a small squad of first team players….also explains why we seemed keen to jettison Digne & his big wages in the summer
Digne is on £120k a week.  Are his wages that big?  He's been one of our best players this season and was a big contributor to getting us to the top 3.  I can understand why we would want to cash in given his age and contract length, but surely we're not in a position where we are that uncompetitive on what wages we can pay?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #572 on: January 25, 2024, 09:17:15 AM »
It's 90% soft cap at the moment, so our spending is capped at £41m given wages. Not sure how sales impact it, guess they do.

Explains why we have a small squad of first team players….also explains why we seemed keen to jettison Digne & his big wages in the summer
Digne is on £120k a week.  Are his wages that big?  He's been one of our best players this season and was a big contributor to getting us to the top 3.  I can understand why we would want to cash in given his age and contract length, but surely we're not in a position where we are that uncompetitive on what wages we can pay?

It is a big wage if you can swap him for someone on 50k a week….i agree that he has been one of our best players this season but i think back in the summer had Moreno been fit a lot were happy to let him go.  Wouldn’t want him leaving now, in fact he’d be my starting left back with Moreno to come on after an hour.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #573 on: January 25, 2024, 09:49:50 AM »
Realistically how many top 6 PL players will be on £50k pw?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #574 on: January 25, 2024, 10:33:19 AM »
We're 21st in the Deloitte money list. Randy Lerner is semi-tumescent in anticipation of next year.

Yes, they have our revenue as €250m. I know it’s not much in relation to the clubs we find ourselves competing with but it’s quite a jump from the year before.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #575 on: January 25, 2024, 10:37:19 AM »
Realistically how many top 6 PL players will be on £50k pw?

Digne is one of our highest earners though. Most of our starting XI will be on less and he's one of the replaceable ones.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #576 on: January 25, 2024, 10:42:01 AM »
Realistically how many top 6 PL players will be on £50k pw?

Digne is one of our highest earners though. Most of our starting XI will be on less and he's one of the replaceable ones.

I read he’s on £8.5m a year, somewhere on the net, no idea how credible.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #577 on: January 25, 2024, 11:04:05 AM »

Digne is one of our highest earners though. Most of our starting XI will be on less and he's one of the replaceable ones.

I read he’s on £8.5m a year, somewhere on the net, no idea how credible.

Think it's closer to £6-6.5m a year. £120-125k a week is the figure I've usually seen for Digne.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #578 on: January 25, 2024, 11:18:34 AM »
We're 21st in the Deloitte money list. Randy Lerner is semi-tumescent in anticipation of next year.

Yes, they have our revenue as €250m. I know it’s not much in relation to the clubs we find ourselves competing with but it’s quite a jump from the year before.

Yeah, and that's not taking into account the ticket price hike of this season, the new shirt sponsor revenue increase, or all the terrace view and lower grounds loot. Plus this season we've already netted another 7m EURO in prize money from the ECL, plus the extra match day revenue from five additional home fixtures in that competition.

So we're very much in the running to be in the top 20 next season.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #579 on: January 25, 2024, 11:47:19 AM »
We're 21st in the Deloitte money list.

I'm outside Nuneaton Borough's ground telling anyone who'll listen that they'll never sing that.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #580 on: January 25, 2024, 12:01:14 PM »
We're 21st in the Deloitte money list. Randy Lerner is semi-tumescent in anticipation of next year.

I’d love to know how they calculated that as we haven’t even announced our 22/23 Company accounts yet?

We’ve also stayed stable at 21st exactly where we were last year but with increased revenue of €250m up from €210m last year.

The big jump into the top 20 will probably come next year. My cup runneth over….

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Re: FFP
« Reply #581 on: January 25, 2024, 12:14:40 PM »
A bit of etymology:
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"My cup runneth over" is a quotation from the Hebrew Bible (Psalms:23:5) and means "I have more than enough for my needs"

I always thought it was used as a sarcastic quip, i.e "Ooh, I can't bear the suspense". So if someone's cup runneth over, it means they have more than is required? Bad English, please make it make sense.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #582 on: January 25, 2024, 12:22:14 PM »
Realistically how many top 6 PL players will be on £50k pw?

There is a table that goes around every now and again, showing teams ranked by total wage bill.  It is unerringly close to the actual final league table every year, with one or two exceptions.  Inevitably, the more you pay for wages, the higher up you finish.  There is the odd anomaly, with someone paying loads in wages and still finishing terribly (Chelsea last year), and teams finishing far higher than their wage bill (Brighton last year), but if you want to be playing consistently at the top end of the table, you need to pay top 6 wages. And that means most first 11 players on £100k+ a week.

Digne is on top 6 wages, and I have no issue with that, the issue is he was given that contract before we were top 6 side.  There will be plenty who aren't on top 6 wages, but will be demanding them pretty soon.   We also have to be careful to avoid giving out top 6 wages before we have top 6 commercial income, that way FFP disaster lies...

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Re: FFP
« Reply #583 on: January 25, 2024, 12:26:23 PM »
Didn't we spend most of the 2010s under-achieving relative to salaries paid?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #584 on: January 25, 2024, 12:28:43 PM »
Didn't we spend most of the 2010s under-achieving relative to salaries paid?

I remember in 09/10 when we lost out on the last CL place to someone called 'Spuds', despite spending more than them in wages. So I wouldn't be surprised.

 


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