Villa Park Redevelopment

[usav]

Are they having to adjust the Trinity or DE stand roofs as part of this as well?  Hard to tell for sure from the drone footage, but it does seem as though expanding back and to the side of the existing structure will mean the roof on those stands will obstruct the view. 

[Percy McCarthy]

The comments in that video state that there are utilities than run under the core of the North Stand so knocking it down would put the build time back ?

I saw something else, I don’t know if it’s relevant.
Aren’t there VAT rules that differ between a complete new build and a renovation ?

Yeah, that’s my barely literate comment. It wouldn’t let me edit.

[kippaxvilla2]

Is the pitch meant to look like that?!

[eamonn]

Cheap lino and burnt grass? Yeah, we're tryna evoke the long hot summer of '76 when Weller honed his craft and the Villa Chippy's three star hygiene rating was just a twinkle in oour Dad's sad Irish eyes.

[Tuscans]

Is the pitch meant to look like that?!

It was almost black 3 weeks ago. It's been top soiled and reseeded, be good as new in a fortnight.

[Villan82]

The comments in that video state that there are utilities than run under the core of the North Stand so knocking it down would put the build time back ?

I saw something else, I don’t know if it’s relevant.
Aren’t there VAT rules that differ between a complete new build and a renovation ?

Yeah, that’s my barely literate comment. It wouldn’t let me edit.

I recall the Purslow plan involved starting work in January to re-route those utilities before the full rebuild started that summer.

[Percy McCarthy]

^^ Comment under the YouTube video in response to someone who said it makes “zero sense” not demolishing and rebuilding:

It makes zero sense if you don't know anything about it sure. Let me educate you sir/madam.

Major utilities run beneath the North Stand,  not just for the whole of Villa Park, but for some of the surrounding buildings. A full demolition wouldn't just have meant knocking down concrete. It would have required diverting or protecting power, water, drainage, communications, obtaining approvals from the utility providers, carrying out the diversion works and only then could you begin demolition.
Doing the full build from scratch that way would take at least 2 years, risk of not completing in time for 2028 Euros.
The massive blue Gottwald crane you see is the only one of that version in existence and its extremely in demand. this summer was the only time it was available, its literally booked up across Europe for  years. This is also a MAJOR driver for the 1 year accelerated timeline. Its takes 3 bloody days just to deploy the beast (its going to take the cross beam off the north stand in the coming week).

So in summary
build around what you've got in 1 year = Common sense, financially lower cost, lower risk of not completing for Euro 2028
Knock down, start from scratch and build in 2 years = Not common sense, financially unsound, huge risk of not completing for Euro 2028

I hope that helps.

[Villan82]

^^ Comment under the YouTube video in response to someone who said it makes “zero sense” not demolishing and rebuilding:

So in summary
build around what you've got in 1 year = Common sense, financially lower cost, lower risk of not completing for Euro 2028
Knock down, start from scratch and build in 2 years = Not common sense, financially unsound, huge risk of not completing for Euro 2028

I hope that helps.

We are up against it on time because we paused it in 2023. As I said above the original plan had a timeline for in season works on diverting the utlities. Say that took us to Summer 2025, then demolish and rebuild as we did with the three other stands.

We're clsoed for the season now regardless.

[Percy McCarthy]

Sadly, time machines are even more rare than that crane.

[Drummond]

Sadly, time machines are even more rare than that crane.

There are around 33 Deloreans about though...

[PeterWithesShin]

We just don't invie you

[andyh]

Sadly, time machines are even more rare than that crane.

Learning that the crane is so rare and it’s availability is so limited makes me more excited than it should.

[UK Redsox]

We just don't invie you

[UK Redsox]

Thanks for that summary Percy

[eamonn]

I've Got The Gottwad Crane Blues - new single by the Reverser, now streaming.