Villa Park Redevelopment

[FatSam]

The Athletico Madrid model would be to moving to the Alexander Stadium though wouldn’t it? Their ground isn’t new, it’s a redeveloped ex athletics stadium.

Indeed but some of our fans think that it would be better to spent billions on a shiny new 60,000 seater at the Alexander stadium rather than spent 100s of millions making our current home 60,000 seater.

There isn't much logic to it beyond 'other clubs have done it' to which the retort should be those clubs didn't have what we have - Goodison and Highbury were impossible to redevelop and White Hart Lane wasn't anything special (and sort of was redeveloped if you think about it, or is at least on the same site)

Literally nobody thinks what you are suggesting. However, some fans will think differently to you on the matter of redevelopment/ relocation. By continuously reiterating the same argument on this thread, you are in danger of drowning-out the counter argument.

[FatSam]

A lot of our supporters are entranced by the thought of something new and shiny, plus the belief that you 'have' to move to compete. It falls at the first bit of logical thinking behind the first question - where to?

I don’t think it’s a discussion worth having until there is a viable alternative location as we should not be moving for the sake of moving. A new site would have to offer something demonstratively better than what we already have. Part of what we already have is a pretty formidable history and connection to place, A new site would obviously have to be very special to outweigh this. However, I want Aston Villa to be ambitious in the same way that we were in the 19th century, and I think it would be unambitious to rule out the possibility of ever relocating.

[Nii Lamptey]

I really don't get the clamour for a new ground/location.

We have THE most beautiful stadium in the country, with Aston Hall/Park by it's side, 2 train stations within close proximity and one of the biggest motorway networks on our doorstep. It WON'T get any better than that.

Take Spurs for example. I made my own way to the away game this season - The closest tube station (*discounting the closer one which doesn't really go anywhere of any use) is over a mile away. It's WAY worse than Villa Park, yet they've expanded to god knows how many now.

Be careful what you wish for.

[eamonn]

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[VancouverLion]

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100% this.

[Chris Smith]

I really don't get the clamour for a new ground/location.

We have THE most beautiful stadium in the country, with Aston Hall/Park by it's side, 2 train stations within close proximity and one of the biggest motorway networks on our doorstep. It WON'T get any better than that.

Take Spurs for example. I made my own way to the away game this season - The closest tube station (*discounting the closer one which doesn't really go anywhere of any use) is over a mile away. It's WAY worse than Villa Park, yet they've expanded to god knows how many now.

Be careful what you wish for.

But we haven’t got any chimneys.

[Stu82]

I really don't get the clamour for a new ground/location.

We have THE most beautiful stadium in the country, with Aston Hall/Park by it's side, 2 train stations within close proximity and one of the biggest motorway networks on our doorstep. It WON'T get any better than that.

Take Spurs for example. I made my own way to the away game this season - The closest tube station (*discounting the closer one which doesn't really go anywhere of any use) is over a mile away. It's WAY worse than Villa Park, yet they've expanded to god knows how many now.

Be careful what you wish for.

But we haven’t got any chimneys.

How can we compete, when we have no chimneys.

[GarTomas]

Chim up! It might never happen!

[chrisw1]

A lot of our supporters are entranced by the thought of something new and shiny, plus the belief that you 'have' to move to compete. It falls at the first bit of logical thinking behind the first question - where to?

I've never been overly keen on a move.  But if Blues stopped at the first hurdle of 'where to?' they wouldn't be announcing their mega-dome right now.  Which, as much as we will take the piss, will bring in income streams that will transform their club.

It's not our job to come up with the answer to 'where to?' but opportunities have come and gone.  The ideal solution would have been to secure land near the HS2 terminal, which would have made the club a viable destination for London tourists and the hospitality income that seems to be the only way to compete in the current football landscape, but that was too early in our recovery to be viable.  But the likes of the gas holder site etc could have worked.

I don't think 'where to?' was a hurdle that should have stopped us.

But perhaps 'should we?' was the more relevant question.     

[Sexual Ealing]

A lot of our supporters are entranced by the thought of something new and shiny, plus the belief that you 'have' to move to compete. It falls at the first bit of logical thinking behind the first question - where to?

It's not our job to come up with the answer to 'where to?' but opportunities have come and gone. 

Try suggesting we replace our striker.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd never feel the same if we moved. And i'd hate it if the future included something as shit as the sha or ManU designs. Fuck that.

[Paul.S]

You can’t polish a turd, even with a new stadium. I’d like to thank them for making what was becoming a shitty day a side splitting hilarious one. WTF is it?

[Demitri_C]

Interesting segment in Balague’s book. Infers the stadium upgrades were a medium term fix, until we are regulars in the top 6, which will then see us look at the athletico madrid model of new stadium. Football performance must come first.

So the opposite  of bloses plan. They are shit nowhere  near being a CL club yet are throwing shit load of money at a stadium instead of investing  it in the club to get them into the PL.

I prefer this approach  in all honesty as we do need to  crack the top 6 regularly.  That has to be priority  at this stage for us

[London Villan]

Interesting segment in Balague’s book. Infers the stadium upgrades were a medium term fix, until we are regulars in the top 6, which will then see us look at the athletico madrid model of new stadium. Football performance must come first.

So the opposite  of bloses plan. They are shit nowhere  near being a CL club yet are throwing shit load of money at a stadium instead of investing  it in the club to get them into the PL.

I prefer this approach  in all honesty as we do need to  crack the top 6 regularly.  That has to be priority  at this stage for us

Most sane owners would do the same. What other club with their past history would embark on such a madcap plan.