Villa Park Redevelopment

[jon collett]

I've had a good think about it and I think I've identified one possible reason why they won't remove the goal posts of the North Stand, and it is very closely linked with gravity.

* Cough *

[Villan82]

I've had a good think about it and I think I've identified one possible reason why they won't remove the goal posts of the North Stand, and it is very closely linked with gravity.

* Cough *

Oh dear. Maybe that was actually him, and not me, climbing up the stand on that render and struggling with gravity.

[pauliewalnuts]

I've had a good think about it and I think I've identified one possible reason why they won't remove the goal posts of the North Stand, and it is very closely linked with gravity.

* Cough *

Well, the difference is they'll be putting in a new roof and building an entire new stand around it, so my put stands entirely valid, and your original comments remains intellectually null and void.

They will not just be removing the goal posts and then making the roof bigger. Because gravity.

[The Edge]

Ultimately it’s a football stadium and I’m less concerned with the aesthetics than the move to 50k+. Hopefully we get some movement in the ST waiting list but like others I suspect it’ll be a big uplift in GA+ offerings with maybe 2-3k of the uplift for GA. Though if it maybe agglomerates the GA+ stuff in one place rather than the Lower Grounds mish mash of stuff around the ground that may be a better solution.

I’m reasonably hopeful that Mayor Parker can get the Witton station stuff moving as part of the national money that’s surely available for Euro28. He really needs to deliver on this as he’s got an election in 2028 just before Euro28. I think Naseef’s statement made it quite clear that the whole thing hinges on Parker and the Transport issue. 

Overall I’m positive and it seems to be an achievable plan and not some 60k+ pipe dream without a master plan and council and CA backing.

I agree with this. Only the Holte End has any architectural merit these days from the outside. I think it will look great on the inside when the ground is packed. We will finally have some some symmetry.

Hats off to you by the way. I think you were early with the news that this was being worked on.

This is excellent news. Credit where it's due to everyone at the club. I think this will look ace when it is completed and the modern Villa Park will, finally, have a 'complete' feel to it.

Thanks 😊 Yeah I bumped into a mate in town a while back who works full time at the ground. He told me that they'd had groups of architects and groundwork teams working behind the stand. Finally an itk that actually turned out to be right. It's amazing what they're doing. To build an 7,000 seat extension around an existing stand without losing capacity is clever stuff.

[Steve67]

I hope they continue to back Unai whilst this all takes place.  It's an amazing time to be a Villa fan, really exciting news.

[The Edge]

I hope they continue to back Unai whilst this all takes place.  It's an amazing time to be a Villa fan, really exciting news.

Of course they will. These guys have a master plan for the club and Unai Emery is integral to those plans..

[jon collett]

I've had a good think about it and I think I've identified one possible reason why they won't remove the goal posts of the North Stand, and it is very closely linked with gravity.

* Cough *

Oh dear. Maybe that was actually him, and not me, climbing up the stand on that render and struggling with gravity.

Ha!

I think the stand will survive somehow!

Call me Mystic Mog!

[Deano's Mullet]

Who gives a shite what Small Heathens think. Their opinions are & always have been irrelevant.

But I might swap our world class manager, billionaire owners & squad full of international players for a skyline, an anthem & the name of the city.

You wouldn't mind but town is there in the  distance when you see shots of the stadium from behind the Doug Ellis. We got a skyline 😂

[Toronto Villa]

Am I the only one who saw those renders and wondered what a plausible reason for this might be?? Cleaning during match day??

That’s fucking shocking to have missed that before the images were published.

[Sdwbvf]

Now it's official, I think it looks good on all the renders and reducing the impact on capacity during the season is clearly a better idea than dropping us down to 34k-ish for 18+ months.

It sounds like the station upgrade will go ahead as well (but maybe not at exactly the same time) which is great news.

It'll be interesting to see what comes after this  because if they can even out the top of the holte and expand Witton Lane you'd think we could be up around 60k but those 2 feel like massive tasks that would need a lot of support from the council, mayor and community. Hopefully the Warehouse can serve as a community space to create the goodwill we'd need.

The station upgrade is very much needed but won’t help with train capacity.

The station upgrades are more for when it is packed out to make it safer for fans with more access options and less standing packed too close to edges. They might even extend the platforms so bigger trains could be used at set times to get people back to Birmingham.

I think extending the platforms is definitely going to happen.

I don’t think bigger trains will. Certainly not by 2027 anyway. And you’d have to extend loads of other platforms too.

You wouldn't need to extend other platforms. If you can get a couple of double trains cross city style running round and round via New Street at the end of the game, you could move about 4000 crush loaded. Then you have the normal trains too. They take another couple of thousand across 4 trains in the hour after the game.

[Percy McCarthy]

Did we have trams as well as And trams?

I hope JK Rowling doesn’t start picking on us.

[Brend'Watkins]

Ultimately it’s a football stadium and I’m less concerned with the aesthetics than the move to 50k+. Hopefully we get some movement in the ST waiting list but like others I suspect it’ll be a big uplift in GA+ offerings with maybe 2-3k of the uplift for GA. Though if it maybe agglomerates the GA+ stuff in one place rather than the Lower Grounds mish mash of stuff around the ground that may be a better solution.

I’m reasonably hopeful that Mayor Parker can get the Witton station stuff moving as part of the national money that’s surely available for Euro28. He really needs to deliver on this as he’s got an election in 2028 just before Euro28. I think Naseef’s statement made it quite clear that the whole thing hinges on Parker and the Transport issue. 

Overall I’m positive and it seems to be an achievable plan and not some 60k+ pipe dream without a master plan and council and CA backing.

I agree with this. Only the Holte End has any architectural merit these days from the outside. I think it will look great on the inside when the ground is packed. We will finally have some some symmetry.

Hats off to you by the way. I think you were early with the news that this was being worked on.

This is excellent news. Credit where it's due to everyone at the club. I think this will look ace when it is completed and the modern Villa Park will, finally, have a 'complete' feel to it.

Thanks 😊 Yeah I bumped into a mate in town a while back who works full time at the ground. He told me that they'd had groups of architects and groundwork teams working behind the stand. Finally an itk that actually turned out to be right. It's amazing what they're doing. To build an 7,000 seat extension around an existing stand without losing capacity is clever stuff.

As a contrary but amusing Irish pundit would say, “it’s their job”.

[Billy Walker]

I hope the Club, as a final gesture for the 150 year anniversary, run a poll to rename the stand. Something like The George Burrell Ramsay Stand would sound suitably grand (and genuinely  iconic) to my old ears, at least.

[Percy McCarthy]

Well there's one team who we can safely say it isn't their second favourite ground.  And they have 2 (two) threads on their forum stating it still wont be as big as the proposed wheels blunderdome and it isn't in Birmingham and not having Birmingham in our name will stunt our growth and wont get us revenue and we'll get eclipsed any day now.

Our friends have also failed to recognise Arsenal do not carry the name of their city and their revenue is unaffected. Ditto Tottenham.

Juve, Feyenoord, Benfica, Celtic, Rangers…

[cdbearsfan]

(Feyenoord and Benfica do both have the name of the city...)