Villa Park Redevelopment

[dave.woodhall]

Guesstimates on how much money we make from the gigs?  Or is the motivation publicly and growing the brand?

I re-watched the Heck interview where he explained the success at the 76ers and he’s repeating the same playbook here.  The graffiti/art on the walls, the branching out into other income streams etc.  I predict there will be a one-off Kendrick sponsored shirt next spring and associated apparel.

We get a rental fee, a cut of the ticket money and the posh seats.

[London Villan]

Couple of million per gig probably.

[Dante Lavelli]

Couple of million per gig probably.

That’s decent. Even at half it’s worth doing.

The Warehouse will dovetail nicely as that will attract the smaller bands through-out the year and can also host support acts for the stadium gigs so it’s a full day event.

It’s coming together nicely.

[kippaxvilla2]

For those that don't know who Kendrick is, he used to be the Villa writer in the Mail before he went onto better things such as singing at the  Super Bowl.

[Drummond]

For those that don't know who Kendrick is, he used to be the Villa writer in the Mail before he went onto better things such as singing at the  Super Bowl.

I thought he was the main character in Madagascar?

[ender4]

Guesstimates on how much money we make from the gigs?  Or is the motivation publicly and growing the brand?

When Spurs hosted Beyonce for 5 nights in 2023, they made £5m per night, £25m in total. But that is a much bigger stadium, with London pricing, better facilities, can serve a lot more food and drink, more hospitality options, and so on.

Beyonce herself made £43m from those 5 nights.

[Sexual Ealing]

Guesstimates on how much money we make from the gigs?  Or is the motivation publicly and growing the brand?

When Spurs hosted Beyonce for 5 nights in 2023, they made £5m per night, £25m in total. But that is a much bigger stadium, with London pricing, better facilities, can serve a lot more food and drink, more hospitality options, and so on.

Beyonce herself made £43m from those 5 nights.

I'm not an unpaid PR stalker for Beyonce (and anyone who says I am is lying), but I'd point out that all the production costs would have come from that figure. It's not like she returned to LA with £43m in used twenties in her Slazenger holdall.

[Somniloquism]

She's doing 6 nights there this summer, but has now got a Head bag for the dosh.

[Dave P]

Will all these gigs stop when the council funded Bluecoat Blunderdome is open at Wheels?

[algy]

Will all these gigs stop when the council funded Bluecoat Blunderdome is open at Wheels?

Depends on whether the government cough up the twenty quid that the Pontins bloke reckons it'll cost to dig a tunnel from New Street to Bordesley I suppose.

[Somniloquism]

Will all these gigs stop when the council funded Bluecoat Blunderdome is open at Wheels?

Well there will be competition for Stadium gigs but we already have that with the Ricoh. (Do Wolves do gigs?). Then the next stage down is the NEC or Arena Central for the biggest stars as well. Blues will also be competing with them as they want their own Co-op disaster like Man Citeh have up there.

[Gareth]

Every summer it seems now for gigs, why I’ve always thought it’ll be a new ground or sticking plaster this one…rebuilding stands is not the option…they won’t want 2/3 years missing out on these revenues why they rebuild

Why bother doing the revamp to the club shop and stumps if that's the case? How much did they spend on the ground last summer?

I think it's just a 'it'll do', unfortunately. I always thought NSWE would be the owners to really transform Villa Park.

I think they are part of the sticking plaster solution, maximise revenue for minimal outlays…it’ll take multiple years to build a ground…if it were just the North that was knackered I’d see the logic fully in rebuilding it but the Witton will need a rebuild by the time the North is done as don’t think there is a lot that can be done to bring that concourse up to a decent standard

[algy]

Couple of million per gig probably.

That’s decent. Even at half it’s worth doing.

The Warehouse will dovetail nicely as that will attract the smaller bands through-out the year and can also host support acts for the stadium gigs so it’s a full day event.

It’s coming together nicely.

Yeah, I was thinking that.  It does fit in with what Heck was doing at Philadelphia ... over there, kind of getting the 76ers associated with food & art in Philadelphia, and with us getting us well and truly associated with the city's music scene.

Probably makes sense, in as much as at the moment it's only football matches that will get people to B6, whereas potentially with gigs we can get people going to and using the transport facilities in Aston/Witton potentially several times a week.  Should make it much easier to make a case for upgrades to the service & stations.

[VILLA MOLE]

Every summer it seems now for gigs, why I’ve always thought it’ll be a new ground or sticking plaster this one…rebuilding stands is not the option…they won’t want 2/3 years missing out on these revenues why they rebuild

Why bother doing the revamp to the club shop and stumps if that's the case? How much did they spend on the ground last summer?

I think it's just a 'it'll do', unfortunately. I always thought NSWE would be the owners to really transform Villa Park.

I think they are part of the sticking plaster solution, maximise revenue for minimal outlays…it’ll take multiple years to build a ground…if it were just the North that was knackered I’d see the logic fully in rebuilding it but the Witton will need a rebuild by the time the North is done as don’t think there is a lot that can be done to bring that concourse up to a decent standard

I wonder if they could do something clever with the area in the roof to utilise some more space for the Witton lane .  They have that media space up there surprised it hasnt been used for corporate . amazing view

[algy]

Every summer it seems now for gigs, why I’ve always thought it’ll be a new ground or sticking plaster this one…rebuilding stands is not the option…they won’t want 2/3 years missing out on these revenues why they rebuild

Why bother doing the revamp to the club shop and stumps if that's the case? How much did they spend on the ground last summer?

I think it's just a 'it'll do', unfortunately. I always thought NSWE would be the owners to really transform Villa Park.

I think they are part of the sticking plaster solution, maximise revenue for minimal outlays…it’ll take multiple years to build a ground…if it were just the North that was knackered I’d see the logic fully in rebuilding it but the Witton will need a rebuild by the time the North is done as don’t think there is a lot that can be done to bring that concourse up to a decent standard

I'm not sure that's the case.  If you listen back to that Chris Heck talk he did, the things he's continually bashing on about are authenticity and tradition.  That's something we've got in spades at Villa Park.  I don't think we'll be giving up the thing that potentially makes the club very special indeed.  I reckon The Holte End, even as a pastiche-of-a-pastiche, keeps us in at Villa Park for a long time to come.  Because it's absolutely irreplaceable.