Villa Park Redevelopment

[Dogtanian]

How many Nick Knowles to a pallet?

[paul_e]

There is nowhere in Birmingham with better transport links than Aston. If we move, it should be to Aston Park.

That just isn't true, every match proves that however good the transport links look on paper they don't work.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'd like to offer you all the money for the percentage you're asking for, algy.

[FrankyH]

New stadium anyone? https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1838971977035641174

I'd still like know , why the hell that was unveiled at the Labour Party conference .

[saunders_heroes]

New stadium anyone? https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1838971977035641174

I'd still like know , why the hell that was unveiled at the Labour Party conference .

Desperate for public funding I think.

[Drummond]

What about the NHS distribution site between Lichfield Road and Star City?

[paul_e]

What about the NHS distribution site between Lichfield Road and Star City?

If you mean the whole area between the canals then it's certainly big enough but the traffic around there can be pretty awful and it doesn't get us any better in terms of being near the city centre. Again a tram would make a huge difference, but that's true for pretty much every part of the city.

[Nev]

New stadium anyone? https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1838971977035641174

I'd still like know , why the hell that was unveiled at the Labour Party conference .

Burnham. And I wish we had a WM Mayor as vocal and progressive as him.

[paul_e]

Lets give Parker a chance, he's been in the role for 4 months and there was a general election in the middle of that.

[AV82EC]

There is nowhere in Birmingham with better transport links than Aston. If we move, it should be to Aston Park.

That just isn't true, every match proves that however good the transport links look on paper they don't work.

That’s operational mismanagement though rather than the infrastructure not being there. The other issue is far too many Villa fans travel to the match by car (precisely because of the public transport being so crap). It’s nothing a decently planned Cross City service for matchday couldn’t solve but that seem beyond the capabilities of West Midlands Railway so we’re stuck with the current rush for the exits on 80 minutes to “beat the traffic”.

Of course decent Urban Transit would solve even more problems but as the fiscal conservatives at the Treasury dont believe in investing in Railways or Trams currently particularly outside London and HS2 its not one we’re solving in the next 10-15 years.

[UK Redsox]

New stadium anyone? https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1838971977035641174

That's either a cough sweet or a washing machine capsule

[paul_e]

There is nowhere in Birmingham with better transport links than Aston. If we move, it should be to Aston Park.

That just isn't true, every match proves that however good the transport links look on paper they don't work.

That’s operational mismanagement though rather than the infrastructure not being there. The other issue is far too many Villa fans travel to the match by car (precisely because of the public transport being so crap). It’s nothing a decently planned Cross City service for matchday couldn’t solve but that seem beyond the capabilities of West Midlands Railway so we’re stuck with the current rush for the exits on 80 minutes to “beat the traffic”.

Of course decent Urban Transit would solve even more problems but as the fiscal conservatives at the Treasury dont believe in investing in Railways or Trams currently particularly outside London and HS2 its not one we’re solving in the next 10-15 years.

Not really, expanding the cross city service beyond 6 an hour (which should be restored) is difficult because New Street can't handle the extra capacity and fixing that is an awful job. A solution could be to shift the Walsall line to Moor St where there is far more room for expansion but that's years away and comes with a bunch of it's own problems.

As for the roads the problem there is that whilst there are some major routes fairly close by getting onto them is difficult and they're operating above capacity anyway because the major spine roads across the city were designed for less than half of the traffic they're now serving. The ONLY solution for both Villa Park but also for the city in general is to massively reduce the number of cars on the road but that requires better public transport and when most of your public transport relies on the same roads you get into an impossible where the solution to the problem can only work after the problem has been solved.

Trams are, and always have been, the solution, but as you say there isn't the support from central government to deliver those so we are, to be polite, utterly fucked.

All that means is that getting the ground closer to the city centre, where there is the best of the public transport and a decent amount of infrastructure investment, is the best way to improve things in the next 20 years.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

[paul_e]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

Birmingham is great, just don't try to drive around the city centre or any of the major spine routes during rush hour.

[AV82EC]

I'm almost certainly moving to Birmingham soon. This thread makes it sound absolutely shit!

For an urban area with nigh on 3 million people I’d say it’s about the worst in Europe for Public transport for similar sized Cities. But you could say that about every single Regional English City.

The buses are ok ish. If that helps.