Villa Park Redevelopment

[Ads]

Goodwill is irrelevant. He should do these things because it would look after more supporters and thus make them more money. That is his remit. I've noticed some people describe Saturday as not being too bad, and like me, it's because they're moderating their behaviours based on experiences over the years.

I didn't mind queuing for 5/10 minutes because I'm used to it at away games. I didn't have a negative exprience with the bar/food because I seldom bother trying to buy anything. I don't use the toilets inside Villa Park, so was oblivious. Etc etc. If I found the facilities clean and pleasant, I might attend earlier to spend more money within the upper Holte.

It shouldn't be as disappointing and poor as it was on Saturday, but ultimately as we're exposed to better facilities elsewhere, even for humdrum teams, Villa Park will become more and more dated.

[eamonn]

I try and avoid public loos and crappy stadium food too but there are thousands who can't/don't.

It's basic provision that the club, going by their comms yesterday, have realised they have no place now to hide.

[ChicagoLion]

Sadly I think Ads is right, goodwill in the context of the club we love is irrelevant.
There are some that will vote with their feet but will be outnumbered by those waiting and wanting to watch the Villa.Of course this is predicated by success on the pitch, take that away and marginal gains from catering and facilities become more relevant.

[Gareth]

Absolutely, the absolute cynic in me would say they will have been happy to see have seen as many of senior concessions as possible caught up in the queues because they would be the ones they want to get rid of from the ground as they have concession tickets and in a lot of cases don’t purchase anything from kiosks or shop. 

Inconvenience them and hope they don’t renew again next summer.

Perhaps I am being too cynical there

[Risso]

That goodwill isn't set in stone though, and the well publicised problems at the weekend aren't going to help in their push to sell over-priced GA+ tickets.

[FatSam]

It shouldn't be as disappointing and poor as it was on Saturday, but ultimately as we're exposed to better facilities elsewhere, even for humdrum teams, Villa Park will become more and more dated.

That is what I am worried about. Even if the new Witton End stand was built, there are physical limitations in what can be provided in the other existing structures, especially the Witton Lane stand. When people are paying increasingly more for tickets, this will be brought into even sharper relief.

[London Villan]

I think the bombardment of comments on every social media post is making them squirm a little - as is the broader media coverage on the BBC and the Mail.

Not a good look when you are trying to flog "world class" "experiences".
 

[itbrvilla]

I was trying to buy tickets to the Wolves game for my friend. He wants to take his two boys to their first Villa game. They live in Cambridgeshire and he wants to stop them from becoming Tottenham, Man Utd or Arsenal fans like their friends.

I'm a claret member and as far as I'm aware, after checking the site every day for three weeks, tickets only went on sale to members at 5pm last night. I only pay the money for membership in the hope of getting a couple of tickets.

Absolutely fuck all anywhere in the ground unless he wants to spend about £300. He's a single parent and simply can't afford that.

His boys are 7 and 9 and he wants them to be Villa fans for life. Their birthdays are close together around September and he saw it as a nice treat for them.

I'm not normally one to badmouth the club, but after five years of being unable to get tickets for me (35), my dad (67) and my brother (29) unless they're singles scattered all over the place, I now feel I've let my friend down.

All that said, to then come on here and read about huge queues, wet paint and blocked urinals?

Well, I can understand where some of the anger comes from.

The site is so unpredictable it feels at present, as I have only two STs and try to take two little ones I’m constantly juggling.

Lots of times it shows only the GA+ but when I am logged in under a claret member profile and if the wind is blowing the right way it shows actual availabilit. Eg I’ll attach a north upper block, so there is plenty there still, you will need multiple claret memberships for multiple tix though. Will DM you.

Definitely something off with the booking site. Repeated showing sold out only for a load of seat to appear an hour later. I wonder if that is deliberate.

[Simon Page]

Goodwill might not be important when you're on the up. If/when it all goes tits up, the economy hits the disposable income of your paying fans or corporates aren't so keen, it becomes your safety net.

Regardless, what benefit is there to failing to get the crowd in on time, having to repair your toilets after each match, losing out on food and drink sales, not having seats that match the tickets? Your faithful proles might be number 94 on the priority list, but there is zero cost and plenty of gain to be had from patting them on the head and letting them piss cleanly.

[trinityoap]

For God's sake Simon, will you please stop talking sense?

[ChicagoLion]

For God's sake Simon, will you please stop talking sense?

absolutely.

[Ads]

I'm not sure who has disagreed with paragraph 2. If normal match goers/season ticket holders become the safety net then the TV bubble most have burst and we've fallen through the floor and kept on plummeting.

[brontebilly]

Heck will have a list of excuses as long as your arm, everything about him tells you he isn’t going to take responsibility, front up and sort it out. He has been here long enough and fucked up enough to tell you what type of Bloke he is.

He's one of those spineless spoofers who are dotted across management in many corporates. Their only ability is to be able to dodge responsibility when the sh*t is flying (and not be shy about taking credit for any wins like that adidas deal). He hasn't even the guts to put his name to that nothing statement.

[Simon Page]

I'm not sure who has disagreed with paragraph 2. If normal match goers/season ticket holders become the safety net then the TV bubble most have burst and we've fallen through the floor and kept on plummeting.

Or been relegated. But that would never happen to the Villa, so maybe our FFP accountants aren't quite as good as 10 others and we find GA+++++ doesn't sell as well for Washington Generals vs Washington Generals.

[The Edge]

Heck will have a list of excuses as long as your arm, everything about him tells you he isn’t going to take responsibility, front up and sort it out. He has been here long enough and fucked up enough to tell you what type of Bloke he is.

He's one of those spineless spoofers who are dotted across management in many corporates. Their only ability is to be able to dodge responsibility when the sh*t is flying (and not be shy about taking credit for any wins like that adidas deal). He hasn't even the guts to put his name to that nothing statement.

The worst thing about that statement is the lack of an apology. How hard is it to just say "sorry about that everyone we will endeavour to iron out the teething problems that occurred on Saturday" It's not that fucking difficult unless you're an arrogant tosser who believes that you're always right and saying sorry is a sign of weakness.