Villa Park Redevelopment

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It's still nowhere near £70 per head per game and critically, it's an absolute light year behind Spurs, who can afford another Diaby more than us, every year.

New ground please.

[Stu82]

Except they have an £800m debt pile to service.

[PeterWithesShin]

I said it will be more than that. I just used £43 to show how low it needs to be to be more than double the last accounts. It will be closer to £70 this season.

[chrisw1]

We don't need a new ground to massively increase our match day income.  We need to increase our corporate and premium offer.  The new North would have facilitated that within 2 years.   

[Risso]

It's still nowhere near £70 per head per game and critically, it's an absolute light year behind Spurs, who can afford another Diaby more than us, every year.

New ground please.

What do we do in the intervening ten years?

[VillaTim]

£70 on average probably isn't far off when you add those doing corporate which will be a much higher spend. Some of which will be ST holders by having a box all season etc.

£70 won't be far off , when you factor in all the full corporate and food/drink sales , plus we now have LG & TV to factor in. Zone 1 tickets are £68 for cat A games aswell. £70 won't be far off the mark.

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It's still nowhere near £70 per head per game and critically, it's an absolute light year behind Spurs, who can afford another Diaby more than us, every year.

New ground please.

What do we do in the intervening ten years?

Squeeze the juice out folks with fancy watches *winky face*

[LeeB]

It's still nowhere near £70 per head per game and critically, it's an absolute light year behind Spurs, who can afford another Diaby more than us, every year.

New ground please.

What do we do in the intervening ten years?

Squeeze the juice out folks with fancy watches *winky face*

And two boilers.

[Risso]

It's still nowhere near £70 per head per game and critically, it's an absolute light year behind Spurs, who can afford another Diaby more than us, every year.

New ground please.

What do we do in the intervening ten years?

Squeeze the juice out folks with fancy watches *winky face*

They're going to do that anyway, and out of people with a £9.99 Casio. That's not going to help us catch up much though, they should be doing that with 10,000 extra seats.

I'm in no way wedded to VP and would love a new ground, but if they wanted to go down that route, they should have started the process ages ago. At the moment, if there's not even vague plans in place, it's going to take a decade.

[VillaTim]

so that takes matchday revenues to circa £55m - wwe also have had extra cup games this year so might even nudge £60m

The big gap is "Commercial" - this is where Heck needs to go to town

[pauliewalnuts]

Deloitte, using one assumes the club's accounts, provide one number, but some really figure plucked from the air calculations by people on the internet say "Nah, reckon it's 5 times as much".

I know who I believe. It's almost as bad as when people, who are not engineers with a long history of working on projects like this, assure us it "wouldn't be too difficult" to implement whatever utterly hatstand idea they have for adding seats.

[Stu82]

Deloitte, using one assumes the club's accounts, provide one number, but some really figure plucked from the air calculations by people on the internet say "Nah, reckon it's 5 times as much".

I know who I believe. It's almost as bad as when people, who are not engineers with a long history of working on projects like this, assure us it "wouldn't be too difficult" to implement whatever utterly hatstand idea they have for adding seats.

Good point, but perhaps part of the difference between us and spurs is in the allocation of income, food, hospitality, corporate being accounted elsewhere.
I originally thought it was a typing error.

[Nev]

Don't forget, however minor the impact, the media act almost as PR companies for some clubs. One only has to look at the different approach with regards to injuries between clubs like ours and Spurs, the ridiculous "rags to riches" painting of Stockport City's treble last season and the tsunami of bullshit whenever Liverpool play at home. Attracting those "floating" fans is difficult but if someone is bigging you up every five minutes, it definitely helps.

[Risso]

Deloitte, using one assumes the club's accounts, provide one number, but some really figure plucked from the air calculations by people on the internet say "Nah, reckon it's 5 times as much".

I know who I believe. It's almost as bad as when people, who are not engineers with a long history of working on projects like this, assure us it "wouldn't be too difficult" to implement whatever utterly hatstand idea they have for adding seats.

Good point, but perhaps part of the difference between us and spurs is in the allocation of income, food, hospitality, corporate being accounted elsewhere.
I originally thought it was a typing error.

We recognise four elements of turnover:
Gate receipts - obviously bums on seats
Broadcasting - TV money
Sponsorship - shirt and other sponsorship deals
Commercial - merchandising, conferences and gigs at Villa Park, and interestingly, loan fees for players we loan out.

I was going to look at what Spurs include in the same categories, but that's the H&V equivalent of saying Candyman in the mirror three times, so didn't bother in case Villadawg showed up. I imagine it's more or less the same though.

[dave.woodhall]

Don't forget, however minor the impact, the media act almost as PR companies for some clubs. One only has to look at the different approach with regards to injuries between clubs like ours and Spurs, the ridiculous "rags to riches" painting of Stockport City's treble last season and the tsunami of bullshit whenever Liverpool play at home. Attracting those "floating" fans is difficult but if someone is bigging you up every five minutes, it definitely helps.

It also helps with sponsorships.