Villa Park Redevelopment

[chrisw1]

It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the result is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

It's a hell of a lot closer to bridging the gap than sticking with a sub-par 40k stadium with outdated facilities and inadequate hospitality offering.

We could have been in the new North in 2-3 years, with Emery still at the helm.  Whilst only a theoretical 7k increase in capacity, it would probably have massively increased hospitality space and had a far bigger impact on revenue than 7k seats would suggest.

We're now probably looking at closer to a 10-year time span before we see anything tangible.   

[Brazilian Villain]

Maybe Heck is planning to take this on...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67920774

You'd think so, balls-ups are his speciality.

[Villan82]

It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the reault is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

You are going to be as disappointed about a grand vision as I am currently about the cancelled North Stand

[Chico Hamilton III]

Talking of costs, the Newcastle ticket prices are mental. £48 cheapest adult, £80 in the Trinity posh seats.

£96 for an adult and child on the Holte. Fucking outrageous.

[Risso]

It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the reault is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

So spend £100m for 10,000 extra seats, or spend £1 billion for 20,000?

[chrisw1]

Sheffield Utd have planning permission to expand to 40k.  It's doing nothing for several years that will get us left behind, not building one of the best stands in the country.

[Villan82]

Sheffield Utd have planning permission to expand to 40k.  It's doing nothing for several years that will get us left behind, not building one of the best stands in the country.

Exactly.

For 80 years Villa Park was elite. But it has stood still for the past 20 years. The lack of vision is simply extraordinary. It is the worst decision since 2018, by far

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It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the result is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

It's a hell of a lot closer to bridging the gap than sticking with a sub-par 40k stadium with outdated facilities and inadequate hospitality offering.

We could have been in the new North in 2-3 years, with Emery still at the helm.  Whilst only a theoretical 7k increase in capacity, it would probably have massively increased hospitality space and had a far bigger impact on revenue than 7k seats would suggest.

We're now probably looking at closer to a 10-year time span before we see anything tangible.   

8 thousand extra seats, maybe 25% of which are some 1888 style tickets doesn't come close.

Save the £100m and think bigger.

[Drummond]

Sheffield Utd have planning permission to expand to 40k.  It's doing nothing for several years that will get us left behind, not building one of the best stands in the country.

The Blades applied successfully for planning permission from Sheffield City Council in 2017 to extend Bramall Lane’s south stand, adding an extra 5,400 seats, raising overall capacity to around 38,000. Separate proposals to extend the Kop stand would lift it beyond 40,000. The club has subsequently updated the application to keep the permissions alive, but with owner Prince Abdullah bin Musaid Al Saud putting the newly-promoted team up for sale, the plans appear to be on hold for now.

Those plans aren't being talked about by anyone here.


*edited to say, and by 'here' I mean in Sheffield.

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It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the reault is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

So spend £100m for 10,000 extra seats, or spend £1 billion for 20,000?

Spurs match day income is around £60m a season more now than it was at their old ground.

[Des Little]

If my ST goes up as expected next season I'll be bailing out.  £70 per match is beyond my threshold. 

[chrisw1]

It comes a lot closer than doing nothing for a decade.

And it's about far more than the seats.  It's about the lounges, restaurants etc.  We have loads of space on that side of the ground so can really go to town on the backup space to make up for the restrictions of the Witton footplate.

What's the point of thinking bigger if you've missed the boat?

[Villan82]

It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the reault is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

So spend £100m for 10,000 extra seats, or spend £1 billion for 20,000?

Spurs match day income is around £60m a season more now than it was at their old ground.

We aren't Spurs and we aren't London. My gut tells me one or two stands like that, for the moment, would suffice and rethink later.

[LeeB]

It does come down to cost. Don't spend £100m to be left in a situation where the reault is unlikely to bring you any closer to bridging a gap between your rivals.

So spend £100m for 10,000 extra seats, or spend £1 billion for 20,000?

Spurs match day income is around £60m a season more now than it was at their old ground.

Yeah, it's not the seat numbers that's the problem, as has been extensively discussed previously.

[Drummond]

Sheffield Utd have planning permission to expand to 40k.  It's doing nothing for several years that will get us left behind, not building one of the best stands in the country.

Exactly.

For 80 years Villa Park was elite. But it has stood still for the past 20 years. The lack of vision is simply extraordinary. It is the worst decision since 2018, by far

Ask fans of other clubs which grounds they like the best and Villa Park is always in the mix as a favourite, regardless of the shit service etc.