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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5100 on: December 28, 2023, 10:41:09 AM »
There is a general whiff of falling behind about all this, too.

Spurs in a brilliant 60k stadium, Everton building a 55k one, West Ham pulling 60k a game, Newcastle already with 51k and looking for more. Then us, shoe-horning extra seats in on the cheap, which is exactly what Ellis would do in these circumstances.

It is all such a let down.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5101 on: December 28, 2023, 10:42:06 AM »
Ads, you were like most of us super excited (Americanism used deliberately here!) about the new North Stand. What do you think is going on, it doesn't make sense to bin it.

I think they just want it to be even more awesome than originally planned. Have a great day!

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5102 on: December 28, 2023, 10:46:17 AM »
Ads, you were like most of us super excited (Americanism used deliberately here!) about the new North Stand. What do you think is going on, it doesn't make sense to bin it.

I think they're going to build a new Villa Park in B6 with houses etc on the Witton purchased up. None of the stands give them the ability to recreate what Spurs for example can do. I think there is, to quote Atairos own corporate jargon/mission statement, a "long term and patient approach" going on. You would not be able to color me surprised for this to happen.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5103 on: December 28, 2023, 10:51:01 AM »
Ads, you were like most of us super excited (Americanism used deliberately here!) about the new North Stand. What do you think is going on, it doesn't make sense to bin it.

I think they're going to build a new Villa Park in B6 with houses etc on the Witton purchased up. None of the stands give them the ability to recreate what Spurs for example can do. I think there is, to quote Atairos own corporate jargon/mission statement, a "long term and patient approach" going on. You would not be able to color me surprised for this to happen.

Agree with this, I think it's a far more likely scenario than the owners are just fattening us up to sell on when we're in the Champions League.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5104 on: December 28, 2023, 10:52:29 AM »
Ads, you were like most of us super excited (Americanism used deliberately here!) about the new North Stand. What do you think is going on, it doesn't make sense to bin it.

I think they're going to build a new Villa Park in B6 with houses etc on the Witton purchased up. None of the stands give them the ability to recreate what Spurs for example can do. I think there is, to quote Atairos own corporate jargon/mission statement, a "long term and patient approach" going on. You would not be able to color me surprised for this to happen.

I think this is what is happening as well but my view is that it could have been communicated way more clearly than it has. That said if they are planning on a huge B6 redevelopment then I understand the need to not frighten the horses so to speak and keep any larger redevpt under wraps for the time being. We’ll see.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5105 on: December 28, 2023, 10:53:14 AM »
I don't see it. That would be a massive undertaking and really distracting to us compared to rebuilding the North and then rebuilding the Witton.

Flattening the whole thing and starting again s unnecessary when the Holte and Trinity are already at the top level.

The original plan would have given us a 50k world class stadium by about 2026. A new plan, might potentially, get us to what 55-60k by about 2032?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5106 on: December 28, 2023, 11:00:47 AM »
They're not at top level. Brighton, dire out of town ground that it is, has much better facilities than the Holte. Tottenham's ground is the best in the country- and I am seldom in the habit of praising the Post Code lottery winners in white.

What other viable reason would there be for a strategic investment? Broadcasting rights aren't changing in the next half a decade. Given their Comcast, Sky, NBC links its possible that some sort of individual broadcasting might have intrigued them- but it's more connections than finance that NWSE would need.

It's a rebuild.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5107 on: December 28, 2023, 11:10:08 AM »
They're not at top level. Brighton, dire out of town ground that it is, has much better facilities than the Holte. Tottenham's ground is the best in the country- and I am seldom in the habit of praising the Post Code lottery winners in white.

What other viable reason would there be for a strategic investment? Broadcasting rights aren't changing in the next half a decade. Given their Comcast, Sky, NBC links its possible that some sort of individual broadcasting might have intrigued them- but it's more connections than finance that NWSE would need.

It's a rebuild.

But why the silence?

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« Reply #5108 on: December 28, 2023, 11:12:13 AM »
They're not at top level. Brighton, dire out of town ground that it is, has much better facilities than the Holte. Tottenham's ground is the best in the country- and I am seldom in the habit of praising the Post Code lottery winners in white.

What other viable reason would there be for a strategic investment? Broadcasting rights aren't changing in the next half a decade. Given their Comcast, Sky, NBC links its possible that some sort of individual broadcasting might have intrigued them- but it's more connections than finance that NWSE would need.

It's a rebuild.

I like the character of the existing footprint. That awkward corner between Holte and Trinity is a throwback to the old stands on the same site. I really would prefer the existing plans we had with the possibility of then rebuilding the Witton over the road. A boring bowl identical to what others have done doesn't appeal to me.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5109 on: December 28, 2023, 11:12:51 AM »
As there's nothing to say yet. Short of a few obsessives online, this doesn't really take up much thinking of the overall Villa populous.

Good luck to then building anything in the UK though and combating the ambition less twerps and NIMBYs that will no doubt try and halt the progression.

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« Reply #5110 on: December 28, 2023, 11:17:32 AM »
As there's nothing to say yet. Short of a few obsessives online, this doesn't really take up much thinking of the overall Villa populous.

Good luck to then building anything in the UK though and combating the ambition less twerps and NIMBYs that will no doubt try and halt the progression.

Maybe, but it also doesn't fit with Heck and his 200 unsold seats either.

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« Reply #5111 on: December 28, 2023, 11:19:01 AM »
As there's nothing to say yet. Short of a few obsessives online, this doesn't really take up much thinking of the overall Villa populous.

Good luck to then building anything in the UK though and combating the ambition less twerps and NIMBYs that will no doubt try and halt the progression.

Maybe, but it also doesn't fit with Heck and his 200 unsold seats either.


I think it does. It looks like what it is; the quickest excuse to be found, the thinnest of masks. Its not plausible because it isn't. It doesn't need to be either.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5112 on: December 28, 2023, 11:41:40 AM »
If it is a rebuild , buying up houses on Witton Lane could take years  though.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5113 on: December 28, 2023, 11:46:52 AM »
As there's nothing to say yet. Short of a few obsessives online, this doesn't really take up much thinking of the overall Villa populous.

Good luck to then building anything in the UK though and combating the ambition less twerps and NIMBYs that will no doubt try and halt the progression.

Maybe, but it also doesn't fit with Heck and his 200 unsold seats either.


I think it does. It looks like what it is; the quickest excuse to be found, the thinnest of masks. Its not plausible because it isn't. It doesn't need to be either.

He didn't need an excuse, he could simply have said we are going to review what had been previously announced to ensure that the decision is the right one.


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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #5114 on: December 28, 2023, 11:53:16 AM »
As there's nothing to say yet. Short of a few obsessives online, this doesn't really take up much thinking of the overall Villa populous.

Good luck to then building anything in the UK though and combating the ambition less twerps and NIMBYs that will no doubt try and halt the progression.

Maybe, but it also doesn't fit with Heck and his 200 unsold seats either.


I think it does. It looks like what it is; the quickest excuse to be found, the thinnest of masks. Its not plausible because it isn't. It doesn't need to be either.

He didn't need an excuse, he could simply have said we are going to review what had been previously announced to ensure that the decision is the right one.
Exactly. But he is American.

 


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