Villa Park Redevelopment

[villa_cads]

Might be able to get a few thousand more if they take out one (or both) rows of executive boxes and go higher than the current wrap around in between the North and Trinity.

But then you're fundamentally changing the structure of that stand.

Is it work sinking £20-30 million extra into a stand that's on the way out.

All sounds a bit Doug.

I wouldn't change the existing structure, just extend the exec boxes and upper tier either side of the stand, then add rows to back of the top tier. The new support structures would support the new roof and could then provide additional spaces for bars, suites etc. It's actually a very sustainable approach and keeps the stand available during the build. Then no need to pull it down. The stand is actually one of the defining attributes of Villa Park, much in the same way that Spurs recreated their double stacked boxes in their new stadium.

Re the quality, all depends on the quality of design.

I would not  call the North Stand an "attribute" to Villa Park at all. More of a testament to bribery, corruption and ugly concrete.

Would you settle for 'distinctive' ?!

[TonyD]

I’ve heard that the extra 3,000 will be cost the club absolutely nothing. 
Season ticket holders can bring a friend. 
They can sit on their lap. 

[VillaTim]

Filling in the corners seems obvious but probably not an easy build and all a bit Heath Robinson

[Dante Lavelli]

There is logic in developing the ground in baby steps. The Lower Grounds and reduced Villa-Live are market testing for bigger plans in the future.  The intel they’ll provide will dictate our future plans. 

It makes sense, just feels conservative.

[Villafirst]

Other teams have managed to expand and increase their capacities. Liverpool's was difficult with CPO's to overcome. I still find it difficult to believe that it's going to take 2 years?

[Dogtanian]

Other teams have managed to expand and increase their capacities. Liverpool's was difficult with CPO's to overcome. I still find it difficult to believe that it's going to take 2 years?

I think the two year timescale is now out the window.

[PeterWithesShin]

Liverpool were buying houses for over 20 years, and treating the local community like shit. They are the last club I want us to emulate when it comes to expanding capacity.

[astonvilla82]

Liverpool were buying houses for over 20 years, and treating the local community like shit. They are the last club I want us to emulate when it comes to expanding capacity.

The people's club bullshit, where have I heard that before

[Brazilian Villain]

Liverpool were buying houses for over 20 years, and treating the local community like shit. They are the last club I want us to emulate when it comes to expanding capacity.

The people's club bullshit, where have I heard that before

To be fair, I think that's Everton's line.

[curiousorange]

How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?

I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?

He might be thinking of the Nou Camp. They did exactly that donkeys years back but there was a lot of space from the pitch to the stands so it was feasible. It would be impossible to do that at Villa Park.

Digging down to the same depth of the lower Witton End/ North Stand, for example, wouldn't be impossible. And we already have space around what is one of the biggest pitches in the country.

As mentioned Barcelona did it and I believe Porto and Marseille did as well. Cost wise there's an old saying about digging down costing twice as much to build up. That, combined with any concerns about the raised water table, may put the kybosh on it.

Digging down is of course possible but pitch would have to be about the size of a 5 a side pitch.

I remember the chapter in Simon Inglis' wonderful 'Football Grounds of Europe' about Monaco, and the pitch is on something like level 7 of the structure, and the car park and offices are below it.

[pauliewalnuts]

How feasible is lowering the pitch to get a further tier in ?

I take it you are not a mathmatician and over familiar with trigonometry?

He might be thinking of the Nou Camp. They did exactly that donkeys years back but there was a lot of space from the pitch to the stands so it was feasible. It would be impossible to do that at Villa Park.

Digging down to the same depth of the lower Witton End/ North Stand, for example, wouldn't be impossible. And we already have space around what is one of the biggest pitches in the country.

As mentioned Barcelona did it and I believe Porto and Marseille did as well. Cost wise there's an old saying about digging down costing twice as much to build up. That, combined with any concerns about the raised water table, may put the kybosh on it.

Digging down is of course possible but pitch would have to be about the size of a 5 a side pitch.

I remember the chapter in Simon Inglis' wonderful 'Football Grounds of Europe' about Monaco, and the pitch is on something like level 7 of the structure, and the car park and offices are below it.

That'll be because they started the stadium development at scratch.

[Villan82]

I know there is no logical link at all and it's the drink talking but I wish Heck hadn't done that update last week as it's been shit since he opened his mouth

[Brazilian Villain]

I know there is no logical link at all and it's the drink talking but I wish Heck hadn't done that update last week as it's been shit since he opened his mouth

No logical link at all, but the same thought crossed my mind last night.

[VillaTim]

I know there is no logical link at all and it's the drink talking but I wish Heck hadn't done that update last week as it's been shit since he opened his mouth

the timing was idiotic

[The Edge]

I know there is no logical link at all and it's the drink talking but I wish Heck hadn't done that update last week as it's been shit since he opened his mouth

No logical link at all, but the same thought crossed my mind last night.

Well he absolutely brought the mood down with his ham fisted announcement. He could of sweetened it with something along the lines of "the stadium development is on hold for the time being whilst we look at bigger and better alternatives " It was a very corporate American way to deliver some bad news. "I know it's Christmas eve but I can't help that. You're fired"