Villa Park Redevelopment

[VillaTim]

There's more Villa in CW than noses though. (not that i want a move to NEC just saying IF it was a ground move , thats probably the best location from a business viewpoint)

[LukeJames]

We've finally turned Aston into a fortress and mastered playing there, imagine moving now.

[luke95]

Captain hindsight here but they really should've done the attempted rebuild during lockdown.

It would've been incredibly risky given the serious threat of relegation but ultimately we'd shown for 18 months 42k were turning up every two weeks and that has continued since fans have returned.

Clearly there are other issues in play and as said it's not enough for 42k scaling up to 52k paying a minimum of 40 quid or season ticket prices to get in, there has to be a more premium fan in aswell to justify the numbers and that's having some teething issues to put it mildly this season!

We're on the up but we're not London so really not sure when the North gets rebuilt if that's the sole criteria that has forced Heck to make the decision to shelve the plans.

I love the view from the North if you're in the front 7-8 rows but it's the sort of stand you could get away with if we we went back to pulling in 33/34k. Full houses every week and you see the extreme limitations. I last sat up there for Palace game this season, arrived at 2.40pm and the queue was already past the incline up the steps so you're always going to miss kick off if you turn up pretty late. Not helped by not being able to enter the other side due to reconfiguration of parking spaces and making the coaches park bigger.

In short term they need to sort that out as too many people are missing kick off even when turning up in reasonable amount of time.

Any decent alternative sites then? When discussed a few years back that large site past Smithfields was popular but seems all of the plot has been snapped up.

Around the Jewellery Quarter would be cool with decent transport links and still close enough to Aston to feel "home" but just seems to be flats going up.

NEC remains the nuclear option but I assume would be considered aswell.

I was mooching around a satellite view of our surrounding area, and looking at the current footprint of Villa Park, in the immediate vicinity 2 things leap out at me -
Powerleague
Our own Academy.
I wouldn’t have thought either of these were big enough if I hadn’t looked at the satellite view, but it actually does look like they are.
So given how easy that seems - there must be something simple I’m missing?

The footprint  of a shiny new 60k ground would probably be twice if not 3 times bigger than villa park .

[Dogtanian]

The footprint  of a shiny new 60k ground would probably be twice if not 3 times bigger than villa park .

It's not, actually. We have more than enough land to build a ground as big as Spurs, just not in the right shape. We would need to acquire a bit of additional to make it the right shape, but it's more than doable at that location.

[Ads]

The new stadium at Spurs is no wider in footprint than the old. It's just further up than the old Park Lane end was. Buy the houses to the right of the Witton and you'd have a site 2x bigger width and 3x bigger length ways than Spurs 62,000 ground.

[PeterWithe]

Who can issue CPOs?

[AV82EC]

Who can issue CPOs?

Councils. In our case it would be BCC, I don’t think WMCA would get involved in this.

[London Villan]

It would have made sense for the club to have bought the houses in Holte Road and McGregor Close over the last 20 years or so as they came up for sale.

60 houses - £12m-£15m In terms of football turnover not a lot. That said Xia would have flogged them all during his fire sale.

[Chris Harte]

We've finally turned Aston into a fortress and mastered playing there, imagine moving now.

This.

And it won't happen anyway.

[SoccerHQ]

If transport links is the priority then the NEC site wins hands down. Proximity to motorways M42 M6 M5 M40 M69 M1 , railways inc HS2 , airport , plus you have all the other stuff that's there - hotels , resorts world, arena, exhibition centre so travelling fans can make a weekend of a trip. If we were ever to move that would be the place to go.

Just chuckling at Paulie reading all that...."BUT I USE THE LINE INTO SNOW HILL!!" (wink).

Where they're building the new interchange station I assume they'll be available land as there's a new housing development and amenities also being created so might aswell slap in a new entertainment venue that can create more jobs. And you're only 30 minutes away from London so new catchment area....well a prison on the Western outskirts of London.

Do we want to be completely soulless matchday venue like West Ham are...that's the hard sell from this ownership.

[amfy]

The footprint  of a shiny new 60k ground would probably be twice if not 3 times bigger than villa park .

It's not, actually. We have more than enough land to build a ground as big as Spurs, just not in the right shape. We would need to acquire a bit of additional to make it the right shape, but it's more than doable at that location.

Yep - there’s industrial land adjacent to the academy site that might be quite straightforward to CPO - or just buy!

[Chris Harte]

This is pure speculation on my part, but the club announced new investment last week. Perhaps they've decided on an alternative, more costly, way of doing things, for instance, doing the initial groundwork (services, pipework, etc) first, followed by NS demolition and rebuild that would allow completion/partial-operability in under two years.

When things are clarified, I still reckon this is what is going on.

Perhaps there's been a re-design to adjust the amount of corporate in that stand.

And one other thought. was Heck behind the Terrace View and Lower Grounds, or was that the previous CEO? Either way, I suspect if Heck is true to his proclamation that "I love history" (from the interview), both TV and LG will be merely temporary features that'll be gone when the new NS is operational.

[manic-road]

We are not moving.

[amfy]

We are not moving.

I don’t want to move, I’m just very desperate not to leave Aston if we do!

[Dogtanian]

I don't want us to move either. But I do want us to have a first class stadium to match our ambitions. Ideally that will be on our current site.