Quote from: SoccerHQ on December 21, 2023, 09:16:18 PMCaptain hindsight here but they really should've done the attempted rebuild during lockdown.It would've been incredibly risky given the serious threat of relegation but ultimately we'd shown for 18 months 42k were turning up every two weeks and that has continued since fans have returned.Clearly there are other issues in play and as said it's not enough for 42k scaling up to 52k paying a minimum of 40 quid or season ticket prices to get in, there has to be a more premium fan in aswell to justify the numbers and that's having some teething issues to put it mildly this season!We're on the up but we're not London so really not sure when the North gets rebuilt if that's the sole criteria that has forced Heck to make the decision to shelve the plans.I love the view from the North if you're in the front 7-8 rows but it's the sort of stand you could get away with if we we went back to pulling in 33/34k. Full houses every week and you see the extreme limitations. I last sat up there for Palace game this season, arrived at 2.40pm and the queue was already past the incline up the steps so you're always going to miss kick off if you turn up pretty late. Not helped by not being able to enter the other side due to reconfiguration of parking spaces and making the coaches park bigger.In short term they need to sort that out as too many people are missing kick off even when turning up in reasonable amount of time.Any decent alternative sites then? When discussed a few years back that large site past Smithfields was popular but seems all of the plot has been snapped up.Around the Jewellery Quarter would be cool with decent transport links and still close enough to Aston to feel "home" but just seems to be flats going up.NEC remains the nuclear option but I assume would be considered aswell.I was mooching around a satellite view of our surrounding area, and looking at the current footprint of Villa Park, in the immediate vicinity 2 things leap out at me -PowerleagueOur own Academy.I wouldn’t have thought either of these were big enough if I hadn’t looked at the satellite view, but it actually does look like they are.So given how easy that seems - there must be something simple I’m missing?
Captain hindsight here but they really should've done the attempted rebuild during lockdown.It would've been incredibly risky given the serious threat of relegation but ultimately we'd shown for 18 months 42k were turning up every two weeks and that has continued since fans have returned.Clearly there are other issues in play and as said it's not enough for 42k scaling up to 52k paying a minimum of 40 quid or season ticket prices to get in, there has to be a more premium fan in aswell to justify the numbers and that's having some teething issues to put it mildly this season!We're on the up but we're not London so really not sure when the North gets rebuilt if that's the sole criteria that has forced Heck to make the decision to shelve the plans.I love the view from the North if you're in the front 7-8 rows but it's the sort of stand you could get away with if we we went back to pulling in 33/34k. Full houses every week and you see the extreme limitations. I last sat up there for Palace game this season, arrived at 2.40pm and the queue was already past the incline up the steps so you're always going to miss kick off if you turn up pretty late. Not helped by not being able to enter the other side due to reconfiguration of parking spaces and making the coaches park bigger.In short term they need to sort that out as too many people are missing kick off even when turning up in reasonable amount of time.Any decent alternative sites then? When discussed a few years back that large site past Smithfields was popular but seems all of the plot has been snapped up.Around the Jewellery Quarter would be cool with decent transport links and still close enough to Aston to feel "home" but just seems to be flats going up.NEC remains the nuclear option but I assume would be considered aswell.
The footprint of a shiny new 60k ground would probably be twice if not 3 times bigger than villa park .
Who can issue CPOs?
We've finally turned Aston into a fortress and mastered playing there, imagine moving now.
If transport links is the priority then the NEC site wins hands down. Proximity to motorways M42 M6 M5 M40 M69 M1 , railways inc HS2 , airport , plus you have all the other stuff that's there - hotels , resorts world, arena, exhibition centre so travelling fans can make a weekend of a trip. If we were ever to move that would be the place to go.
Quote from: luke95 on December 22, 2023, 08:39:56 AMThe footprint of a shiny new 60k ground would probably be twice if not 3 times bigger than villa park .It's not, actually. We have more than enough land to build a ground as big as Spurs, just not in the right shape. We would need to acquire a bit of additional to make it the right shape, but it's more than doable at that location.
This is pure speculation on my part, but the club announced new investment last week. Perhaps they've decided on an alternative, more costly, way of doing things, for instance, doing the initial groundwork (services, pipework, etc) first, followed by NS demolition and rebuild that would allow completion/partial-operability in under two years.
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