Villa Park Redevelopment

[Risso]

Personally, I think it’d be ridiculous playing our 150th anniversary season in the middle of a building site. We’re not Small Heath - we need 4 stands for that.

Honestly, what difference would that make? The new stand would be there to make our future better. After the first few weeks who's really going to care about the 150 year anniversary anyway? Or if the anniversary really is that important, just delay the plans for 12 months then, instead of cancelling them.

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd rather the club go bust than force people out of their homes just so as we can make a bit more money on a match day.

[pauliewalnuts]

Personally, I think it’d be ridiculous playing our 150th anniversary season in the middle of a building site. We’re not Small Heath - we need 4 stands for that.

Honestly, what difference would that make? The new stand would be there to make our future better. After the first few weeks who's really going to care about the 150 year anniversary anyway? Or if the anniversary really is that important, just delay the plans for 12 months then, instead of cancelling them.

Another case of milking our history instead of moving forward.

It's not a great look in terms of corporate leadership to have poured so much effort and attention into expanding the ground and then randomly shit a brick because we're doing well for a change.

It was always going to be our 150th anniversary when we planned to demolish the stand. It's not like they've just discovered it.

[Villan82]

Personally, I think it’d be ridiculous playing our 150th anniversary season in the middle of a building site. We’re not Small Heath - we need 4 stands for that.

Honestly, what difference would that make? The new stand would be there to make our future better. After the first few weeks who's really going to care about the 150 year anniversary anyway? Or if the anniversary really is that important, just delay the plans for 12 months then, instead of cancelling them.

it did us no harm in the mid 90s when the ground had two sides rebuilt or in 2000-01 when the new Trinity went up. Honestly, why are people swallowing Hecks bullshit?

[andyh]

I find it incredulous that people can call a bloke a bullshitter, liar etc etc all on the basis one short interview.
We don’t know him.
We don’t know what he’s about or the plans the club has……yet.

Do we have to know everything and know it now?


Can’t we let the bloke get his feet under the table. Unravel the decisions of the previous CEO or whatever Purslow role was, and see what develops?

The bloke has obviously risen to the top of his particular tree because I presume he has a talent and skill for his role. I have utter faith that Nas and Wes brought him for completely the right reasons and that they don’t think he’s a liar or bullshitter.

I am not so naive as not to be sceptical, but bloody hell, let’s give the bloke a chance before decrying him as the devil.

[Bad English]

I hope you're proud of yourself Mr Heck. You've RUINED Christmas for millions of young Villa fans around the world.

Well you know, you do the same at most matches but we have your back.

[pauliewalnuts]

I find it incredulous that people can call a bloke a bullshitter, liar etc etc all on the basis one short interview.
We don’t know him.
We don’t know what he’s about or the plans the club has……yet.

Do we have to know everything and know it now?


Can’t we let the bloke get his feet under the table. Unravel the decisions of the previous CEO or whatever Purslow role was, and see what develops?

The bloke has obviously risen to the top of his particular tree because I presume he has a talent and skill for his role. I have utter faith that Nas and Wes brought him for completely the right reasons and that they don’t think he’s a liar or bullshitter.

I am not so naive as not to be sceptical, but bloody hell, let’s give the bloke a chance before decrying him as the devil.

Yeah judge him on what he's done so far.

The badge clusterfuck.
The Terrace View defliing the Holte for a few extra quid.
The Lower Grounds taking away what we had and charging top dollar for it.
Casually, almost as an aside, binning the expansion of the ground.


Those are all things he's done in his time there.

He'd learn a lot from not just saying "We're not doing that" and then explaining what we would be doing. The badge fiasco has led to some barely plausible "consulting with the fans" rubbush (which is what we did in the first place) and the expansion thing is "it's too much to add 10,000 seats right now" and zero explanation of what we're doing instead beyond some laughibly small time shit about turning the old academy building into a bar.

Brilliant.

[PeterWithesShin]

GET A GRIP!!!!!!

[andyh]

The badge ‘fiasco’ has been explained, time and time again.

[Brazilian Villain]

I hope you're proud of yourself Mr Heck. You've RUINED Christmas for millions of young Villa fans around the world.

Well you know, you do the same at most matches but we have your back.

[Dante Lavelli]

In fairness to Heck, he's paid to make big decisions and this is another big one. 

Big salaries also means you have to be accountable for your decisions, explain them, and bring people on the journey; he’s not done any of that so far.

[VillaTim]

Would they consider a compulsory PO of the land and properties around Villa Park?

Please no! Kick people out of their homes? This is supposed to be a football club rooted in its community not one rooting out its community

Isn't that what Ellis did down the Witton Road

[Smoke]

Reading this thread has shown me people on here are really missing being able to have a good old moan.


Very valid point someone made a few posts ago the increased seats in the now shelved plan were majority in the hospitality high pricing bracket. This could very well be what he means by too many seats too soon not the "lack of faith / balls/ ambition/ etc" as has been chucked around.

[pauliewalnuts]

The badge ‘fiasco’ has been explained, time and time again.

Explained really badly with a scarcely believable story about it being an experiment, it being some shit about a 1982 commemoration on, err, the 41st anniversary.

We now have a situation where we have two totally different badges used by media outlets and are about to get a third.

[itbrvilla]

So far Heck is like Ellis and Tom Fox rolled into one insufferable bullshitter

I can tolerate hearing the rough decisions, but just want people to be honest with me. Americans full of shit as usual and treat us like we're stupid.