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Offline The Edge

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3660 on: September 21, 2023, 03:26:16 PM »
Risso, keeping it real(tor).

The most irritating thing about Americanisms is how many of them are proper English.

I've noticed that some British Estate Agents now have their photo on the boards outside houses.
I only ever used to see that in the North American Colonies
There's a massive billboard on the junction of Victoria Rd and Trinity Rd with a picture of the father and son (I forget the name) but it's called something & son Realty. Just what is this obsession with Americanisms in our society?

Offline Rory

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3661 on: September 21, 2023, 03:47:37 PM »
Risso, keeping it real(tor).

The most irritating thing about Americanisms is how many of them are proper English.

I've noticed that some British Estate Agents now have their photo on the boards outside houses.
I only ever used to see that in the North American Colonies
There's a massive billboard on the junction of Victoria Rd and Trinity Rd with a picture of the father and son (I forget the name) but it's called something & son Realty. Just what is this obsession with Americanisms in our society?

I could care less.

Online Dante Lavelli

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3662 on: September 21, 2023, 07:38:16 PM »
I might apply for a job at Core 5 so I can work on it.  Its a solid design team, especially Grimshaws (although I’ve not heard of David Smith engineers).  No sign of penny pinching with that lot of consultants.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3663 on: September 21, 2023, 09:16:44 PM »
The only faintly feasible location near town would be somewhere in the Gun Quarter. It’s pretty desolate and sparsely populated by industry. The Birmingham Wheels site is huge but the transport is shit and it’s quite a walk from town.

SHA actually tried to move to the Wheels site 20 years ago but can't remember why their application was turned down. Think the go karting circuit been sold now.

Really don't want to be moving there although we'd all finally be drinking in town I guess....

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3664 on: September 21, 2023, 11:25:53 PM »
The only faintly feasible location near town would be somewhere in the Gun Quarter. It’s pretty desolate and sparsely populated by industry. The Birmingham Wheels site is huge but the transport is shit and it’s quite a walk from town.

SHA actually tried to move to the Wheels site 20 years ago but can't remember why their application was turned down. Think the go karting circuit been sold now.

Really don't want to be moving there although we'd all finally be drinking in town I guess....

It was tied in with the casino which went to the NEC instead.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3665 on: September 22, 2023, 08:08:10 AM »
£1billion?


The North Stand is costing the best part of £100 million
So 4 stands is £400 million, I am struggling to find a piece of real estate in Birmingham for £600 million.
Not just 4 stands though, is it? There's the pitch, offices, shop, car park, other buildings. You've also got all the infrastructure underneath the stand.

I can quite well imagine a new ground would be approaching £1b.
I would love the project if they were prepared to pay £1billion for it.
Everton is costing £500 million and it’s next to water.
Of course if you get HS2 in, it would cost 10 billion.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2023, 08:13:13 AM by ChicagoLion »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3666 on: September 22, 2023, 09:11:34 AM »
£1billion?


The North Stand is costing the best part of £100 million
So 4 stands is £400 million, I am struggling to find a piece of real estate in Birmingham for £600 million.
Not just 4 stands though, is it? There's the pitch, offices, shop, car park, other buildings. You've also got all the infrastructure underneath the stand.

I can quite well imagine a new ground would be approaching £1b.
I would love the project if they were prepared to pay £1billion for it.
Everton is costing £500 million and it’s next to water.
Of course if you get HS2 in, it would cost 10 billion.

The Everton owner said total costs would be closer to £760m - for a 53k seater.

Spurs stadium cost £1b for 63k.  Construction started in 2015 and building costs are significantly higher, so to replicate that build would be far more now.

I'd imagine if we were building a new stadium (we're not) we'd want it to be 60k.  I'm not sure why you think with additional site assembly costs that Spurs did not have and massively inflated construction fees you think it's so ridiculous that a new stadium would be in the region of £1b.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2023, 12:34:59 PM by chrisw1 »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3667 on: September 22, 2023, 10:53:21 AM »
Given the way BCC treat their social housing tenants, I'd be all behind sharking the motherless fucks for cheap real estate.
Just out of interest, when did 'real estate' start replacing 'land and 'property' in British Engerlish?
 
We didn't have this sort of thing back in the day.

If the phrase exists before the country, its not a said country-ism.

Offline Duncan Shaw

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3668 on: September 22, 2023, 11:41:28 AM »
If we ever did move, which I don't think we will, it would be out to the NEC surely, which would fit in with the easy for day trippers hospitality agenda.  Easy to drive/train and even fly into, lots of space for corporate areas, US style "tailgate" pre-match hospitality.  I could really see us going for that if we had someone who's track record was building a brand in US sports......

What gives me comfort is we wouldn't be going to this expense with the North stand if a move was on the agenda.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3669 on: September 22, 2023, 01:41:19 PM »
Given the way BCC treat their social housing tenants, I'd be all behind sharking the motherless fucks for cheap real estate.
Just out of interest, when did 'real estate' start replacing 'land and 'property' in British Engerlish?
 
We didn't have this sort of thing back in the day.

If the phrase exists before the country, its not a said country-ism.
FFS! If the phrase is marked 'mainly North American English', and variants thereof, by lexicographers and in dictionaries, is used mainly by our simple cousins elsewhere, is one that was not used by speakers of proper English when I was growing up, then it is a phrase that I can moan about in UK English.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3670 on: September 22, 2023, 01:46:30 PM »
I just want us all to get back to some form of normalcy.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3671 on: September 22, 2023, 01:52:37 PM »
I just want us all to get back to some form of normalcy.

That should be the aim this Fall for us all.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3672 on: September 22, 2023, 02:44:18 PM »
We will, momentarily.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3673 on: September 22, 2023, 02:46:06 PM »
I am prayerful that we will.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3674 on: September 22, 2023, 02:48:43 PM »
Well let's not just sit around on our fannies, let's make this the winningest arena in soccer!

 


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