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Online Nev

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3645 on: September 21, 2023, 11:07:22 AM »
Given the way BCC treat their social housing tenants, I'd be all behind sharking the motherless fucks for cheap real estate.
Just out of interest, when did 'real estate' start replacing 'land and 'property' in British Engerlish?
 
We didn't have this sort of thing back in the day.

Almost from the get go.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3646 on: September 21, 2023, 11:22:51 AM »
Given the way BCC treat their social housing tenants, I'd be all behind sharking the motherless fucks for cheap real estate.
Just out of interest, when did 'real estate' start replacing 'land and 'property' in British Engerlish?
 
We didn't have this sort of thing back in the day.

London in the 17th century, according to this article!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/where-did-term-real-estate-103000184.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJ4A2DsEptUuKQEgiMJyQcBFavkziUSBn91MV6G5YAQp1jGIKNfOT901KVSCgpo40qFVgCQEUeuUCFa9v0xBesl8YJFGclXtRIbAgcqwgsYwDo7DzNvzUbPcFrC9dgNArQuBncDDsqYT1LaBDaWIPiqG4Ydh8xRVh3jYHW0QUlmh

Offline astonvilla82

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3647 on: September 21, 2023, 11:25:21 AM »
Given the way BCC treat their social housing tenants, I'd be all behind sharking the motherless fucks for cheap real estate.
The same social housing tenants welcomed contractors to operate the housing maintenance department with open arms who then and laid down the law on what they were entitled too under council policy and then didn't like it , worked out well that did

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3648 on: September 21, 2023, 11:27:49 AM »
Risso, keeping it real(tor).

The most irritating thing about Americanisms is how many of them are proper English.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3649 on: September 21, 2023, 01:18:09 PM »
https://www.building.co.uk/news/aston-villa-delays-events-space-plan-to-accelerate-start-on-100m-stadium-expansion/5125289.article

Aston Villa delays events space plan to accelerate start on £100m stadium expansion

Villa Live scheme next to ground mothballed under plan to quicken up North Stand work

Aston Villa has mothballed plans for an events venue next to its home ground so the £100m expansion of the stadium’s North Stand can start sooner.

The Villa Live scheme, a standalone building intended as a multi-purpose entertainment, community and retail space, will now be built inside a refurbished warehouse near the Villa Park ground and will be renamed “The Warehouse”.

Meanwhile, the Grimshaw-designed North Stand redevelopment has been redesigned to include a new internal mezzanine level containing a shop, ticket office, a ‘heritage experience’ and enhanced food and beverage offer.

Two separate applications for the changes are due to be given the OK by Birmingham council next week, having secured a recommendation for approval by the council’s planning officers.

The club’s redevelopment of its North Stand was approved in December last year and aims to increase capacity at Villa Park by 7,300 seats to bring capacity up to 50,000.

However, a planning statement by WSP said the Villans had reconsidered the phasing of the scheme and had decided to focus on building the North Stand and would complete the original plan for Villa Live at a later date.

WSP said the club had concluded that the most viable interim solution would be to repurpose the Stumps Academy building, a large warehouse block next to the stadium, to provide “key aspects” of the Villa Live concept including a fan zone, food and drink space and events space.

“In short, the planning strategy has been reworked to ensure that the North Stand can come forward for development immediately, and that the refurbishment of the Stumps Academy building, and car park would be a ‘meanwhile use’,” WSP said.

“This scenario will allow the future delivery of Villa Live and the completion of the original consented scheme in the future.”

Aston Villa said the new proposals will ensure “all the benefits” of the original plan for Villa Live are “retained and provided from the outset”.

The Stumps Academy building will contain a flexible event floor, food and drink courtyard and a micro-brewery, connected to a “multi-use games area” and office space for club staff.

The building will have space for around 2,500 fans and will be open seven days a week, as opposed to just on match days.

The wider project team for the Villa Park expansion includes architect Grimshaw, interior designer F3 Architects, cost consultant Core Five, town planning and transport consultant WSP, structural engineer David Smith Associates and MEP engineer ME Engineers.

Changes to the North Stand expansion include a new sports bar entrance, changes to the facade on the corners of the buildings to include a new club shop and the retention plant building which had been set for demolition under the previous plans.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3650 on: September 21, 2023, 01:22:58 PM »
"enhanced food and beverage offer."

£12 a pint instead of £6.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3651 on: September 21, 2023, 01:57:55 PM »
It's a bit confusing...

"However, a planning statement by WSP said the Villans had reconsidered the phasing of the scheme and had decided to focus on building the North Stand and would complete the original plan for Villa Live at a later date."

Does this mean the original new building is still on the cards further down the line and the "Warehouse" is the interim solution.

Offline stevo_st

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3652 on: September 21, 2023, 02:00:26 PM »
I would presume so, and probably a way of fast tracking the approval planners, effectively turning the original approved scheme to a phased scheme

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3653 on: September 21, 2023, 02:02:08 PM »
It read as them keeping their options open to me. I suspect Villa live won't come up again for a while though.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3654 on: September 21, 2023, 02:02:37 PM »
Just looked at the BCC planning site - the amendments, no VL yet, addition of some more hospitality places and a shop (which I have to say, looks tiny), are all recommended for approval and come up for full approval a week today.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3655 on: September 21, 2023, 02:05:26 PM »
Risso, keeping it real(tor).

The most irritating thing about Americanisms is how many of them are proper English.

I've noticed that some British Estate Agents now have their photo on the boards outside houses.
I only ever used to see that in the North American Colonies
« Last Edit: September 21, 2023, 02:07:15 PM by UK Redsox »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3656 on: September 21, 2023, 02:07:58 PM »
Risso, keeping it real(tor).

The most irritating thing about Americanisms is how many of them are proper English.

I've noticed that more and more British Estate Agents have their photo on the boards outside houses.
I only ever used to see that in the North American Colonies

We (me and the Mrs) were discussing that the other day.

Who gives a shit what they look like?

It’s like on LinkedIn when people post utter pointless rubbish as an excuse to post a selfie. Almost always attractive female recruiters, I note.

Offline stevo_st

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3657 on: September 21, 2023, 02:49:52 PM »



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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3658 on: September 21, 2023, 03:07:32 PM »
"enhanced food and beverage offer."

£12 a pint instead of £6.


£80 to enter instead of free.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3659 on: September 21, 2023, 03:07:50 PM »
Gorge.

 


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