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Offline London Villan

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3555 on: September 17, 2023, 09:27:38 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3556 on: September 17, 2023, 09:38:43 AM »
They're never going to build a tram line in an area where the main justification is 25 or so days a year, so extending it up Lichfield Road would have to fight it out as an option with lots of other potential routes
So what's the justification for extending the HS2 Curzon link right to the top of Digbeth? The A34 passes through heavily urbanised districts which the tram would serve. A branch off from the island towards Villa Park/Witton station would have similar benefits.

To bring Digbeth properly into the city centre.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3557 on: September 17, 2023, 09:57:35 AM »
They're never going to build a tram line in an area where the main justification is 25 or so days a year, so extending it up Lichfield Road would have to fight it out as an option with lots of other potential routes
So what's the justification for extending the HS2 Curzon link right to the top of Digbeth? The A34 passes through heavily urbanised districts which the tram would serve. A branch off from the island towards Villa Park/Witton station would have similar benefits.

To bring Digbeth properly into the city centre.
Yeah I suppose that's true but my point is the A34 corridor is heavily urban and trams are by definition a mass public transport system so taking it along there and possibly linking it to a new Witton Station wouldn't just be used for 20 odd football matches a year which was the reason for my response to a previous post.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3558 on: September 17, 2023, 09:58:33 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

Where did you get that idea from?
« Last Edit: September 18, 2023, 06:05:44 AM by dave.woodhall »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3559 on: September 17, 2023, 09:59:07 AM »
I was in Digbeth yesterday, it's still chaotic down there, the businesses have had to be very patient.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3560 on: September 17, 2023, 10:01:06 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

Whee did you get that idea from?
The A34 itself already connects Walsall to Brum. As do the trains and buses.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3561 on: September 17, 2023, 10:36:29 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

Whee did you get that idea from?

Didn’t the leader and/or the council over there knock it back?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3562 on: September 17, 2023, 10:43:19 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

Whee did you get that idea from?

Didn’t the leader and/or the council over there knock it back?

According to Google and the Express & Star the idea of Walsall to Wolverhampton was knocked back due to lack of demand.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 11:07:03 AM by dave.woodhall »

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3563 on: September 17, 2023, 11:06:01 AM »
The Digbeth branch is the start of the line to the airport (that will never get built in our lifetimes). The residents of Walsall basically scuppered the A34 tram line. They didnt want to be connectec to Brum.

Whee did you get that idea from?

Didn’t the leader and/or the council over there knock it back?

According to Google and the Ecpress & Star the idea of Walsall to Wolverhampton was knocked back due to lack of demand.

They are building a new line to connect them again, with 2 new stations Willenhall & Darleston at the mo, so I don’t think a Tram line would be needed too.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3564 on: September 17, 2023, 11:10:42 AM »
That was what the story said. There's enough transport links to Walsall already without the need for a tram.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3565 on: September 17, 2023, 11:33:18 AM »
Sorry for the Birmingham Mail link - but this was the story back in the day...  the culmination of years of protest and opposition to the potential Metro line. The locals wanted buses instead.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/walsall-road-tram-plan-laid-89785


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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3566 on: September 17, 2023, 11:39:45 AM »
Sorry for the Birmingham Mail link - but this was the story back in the day...  the culmination of years of protest and opposition to the potential Metro line. The locals wanted buses instead.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/walsall-road-tram-plan-laid-89785



That's Walsall Road, Perry Barr.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2023, 12:05:02 PM by dave.woodhall »

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3567 on: September 17, 2023, 12:02:07 PM »
Sorry for the Birmingham Mail link - but this was the story back in the day...  the culmination of years of protest and opposition to the potential Metro line. The locals wanted buses instead.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/walsall-road-tram-plan-laid-89785



That's Walsall Road,  Perry Barr.

Jesus, how bad is that website?

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3568 on: September 17, 2023, 12:09:01 PM »
The last plan was for Sprint buses up Walsall Road - like trams, they have a dedicated lane but run on wheels rather than tram lines. Much quicker to get going.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3569 on: September 17, 2023, 01:37:16 PM »
Sorry for the Birmingham Mail link - but this was the story back in the day...  the culmination of years of protest and opposition to the potential Metro line. The locals wanted buses instead.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/walsall-road-tram-plan-laid-89785



That's Walsall Road,  Perry Barr.

Jesus, how bad is that website?

It’s impossible to read without getting an instant migraine.

 


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