Villa Park Redevelopment

[Bad English]

I thought they were dust clouds from the locals doing 'donuts' in Aston Park.

[chrisw1]

I much prefer the 2nd design.  It looks far more imposing and means VP retains it's Ground heritage as opposed to looking like a scaled down version of an Independence Day space craft that is the new norm.  The overhang of the roof looks really good on the Witton Lane side, does it's roof job but looks architecturally pleasing as it fills an open space without compromising the DE stand.  It's something different.

The stand designs are the same, aren't they?

[chrisw1]

It's still a massive car park that goes virtually all the way up to the stand. Nothing like the vision that was sold originally.

What tosh.

How is it tosh?  It's an irrefutable fact.  The 'external fan zone' area looks about the same size as the over crowded area we have now by the stage.

[Axl Rose]

I thought they were dust clouds from the locals doing 'donuts' in Aston Park.

😂

[VillaTim]

here are the latest Holte End developments for disabled / terrace view entrance etc

[FatSam]

It's still a massive car park that goes virtually all the way up to the stand. Nothing like the vision that was sold originally.

I don't think the quantum of parking will be substantively different to the previous version. The Academy building obviously sits in a different position to the proposed Villa Live building. That means that the parking has been redistributed and the basketball courts re-positioned. I'm fairly sure that the width of the pedestrian route along the rear of the new stand will be the same in both the previous and current schemes. Yes, this route is bounded by parking, but that is because it can't be pushed behind the Villa Live building. In the aerial view that you've posted, the pedestrian route is hidden behind the overhanging roof due to the perspective.

[Risso]

It's still a massive car park that goes virtually all the way up to the stand. Nothing like the vision that was sold originally.

I don't think the quantum of parking will be substantively different to the previous version. The Academy building obviously sits in a different position to the proposed Villa Live building. That means that the parking has been redistributed and the basketball courts re-positioned. I'm fairly sure that the width of the pedestrian route along the rear of the new stand will be the same in both the previous and current schemes. Yes, this route is bounded by parking, but that is because it can't be pushed behind the Villa Live building. In the aerial view that you've posted, the pedestrian route is hidden behind the overhanging roof due to the perspective.

But the idea was that outside the new stand/Villa Live there'd be loads of room for other vendors and the like, so that all of the immediate area around the stand would be for pedestrians. That area is for cars now.

Of course the size of the new stand is by far the most important factor, but in the absence of anything else to talk about, my opinion of the amended plans is that I don't like them at all. Like the badge fiasco it smacks of uncertainty and not knowing what you're doing, and that annoys me about Villa.

Not directly in the club's power to do anything about, but I'd also be amazed if this isn't held up for the next three years at least by the council and associated idiots not agreeing over the station.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's still a massive car park that goes virtually all the way up to the stand. Nothing like the vision that was sold originally.

I don't think the quantum of parking will be substantively different to the previous version. The Academy building obviously sits in a different position to the proposed Villa Live building. That means that the parking has been redistributed and the basketball courts re-positioned. I'm fairly sure that the width of the pedestrian route along the rear of the new stand will be the same in both the previous and current schemes. Yes, this route is bounded by parking, but that is because it can't be pushed behind the Villa Live building. In the aerial view that you've posted, the pedestrian route is hidden behind the overhanging roof due to the perspective.

These are the original plans.

There is already a ton of parking there, running right up to the old academy building, and there is also a massive space for the outdoor broadcast compound. If they're now using the academy building for the Villa Live replacement, it's obvious it is going to need a bit more room around it, and it also now seems to have basketball courts, so it's almost certainly a case of moving around what was already there.

However, it also frees up what - if you look at the plans - is a massive area where Villa Live used to be.

Genuinely think this is much ado about nothing - as I said, I watched the fly through on the OS and it looks different to the way it does in this render. The actual truth will be in what they submit to the council.

[maidstonevillain]

But what will happen in practice. Won't the players and staff still require a secure, fenced off, car park next to the stand, as at present.

[eamonn]

Why do we need basketball courts? Is this for Wes Edens' downtime on his one trip a year to B6 when he wants to shoot some hoops after a board meeting?

[pauliewalnuts]

Why do we need basketball courts? Is this for Wes Edens' downtime on his one trip a year to B6 when he wants to shoot some hoops after a board meeting?

Cos basketball courts in the summer’s got girls there.

[paul_e]

Why do we need basketball courts? Is this for Wes Edens' downtime on his one trip a year to B6 when he wants to shoot some hoops after a board meeting?

There's one right in the area we'd be looking to dig up opposite the DE stand if we were looking rebuild/expand. I have no idea if that's played into their thinking though.

[pauliewalnuts]

That would be years away.

It’s another example why not to take the renders too seriously. They’re not planning documents.

The original one had a flower stand at the north / Trinity corner, for example.

[Brazilian Villain]

Why do we need basketball courts? Is this for Wes Edens' downtime on his one trip a year to B6 when he wants to shoot some hoops after a board meeting?

Maybe that's what Flin5tone was referring to when he said you could go downtown from Villa Park in less than 5 minutes.

[paul_e]

That would be years away.

It’s another example why not to take the renders too seriously. They’re not planning documents.

The original one had a flower stand at the north / Trinity corner, for example.

Of course, I just wonder if it'a  nod towards doing more community related stuff than we had in the original design to grease the wheels a bit.