I quite like the outside of the Doug Ellis. Admittedly, it's nothing special, but I don't know, I just like walking alongside it.Don't like sitting in it, however, and have only ever done so twice. 0-0 against Liverpool when Staunton got sent off for them, and that delayed kickoff Worthington Cup game, also against that horrid lot when we lost 4-3. I think that pinhead, diving ****** Steven scored that day. ******.
Quote from: Axl Rose on July 06, 2023, 01:28:07 PMI quite like the outside of the Doug Ellis. Admittedly, it's nothing special, but I don't know, I just like walking alongside it.Don't like sitting in it, however, and have only ever done so twice. 0-0 against Liverpool when Staunton got sent off for them, and that delayed kickoff Worthington Cup game, also against that horrid lot when we lost 4-3. I think that pinhead, diving ****** Steven scored that day. ******.I think aesthetically it's acceptable. The view sitting in it is also very good - I tend to choose it ahead of Trinity upper if I ever need to move from my ST seat - as it's pretty steep and close to the pitch. The back of house facilities in the upper are an absolute disgrace though. It's almost impossible to take a piss at half time, let alone buy a pint. The queue for the women's w/c is simply unacceptable.I'm surprised when I hear comments like above about away fans liking VP. I imagine any who have sat in the Witton Upper think it's awful too.
One thing I’ve noticed while a lot of clubs have moved to new grounds, how much the away fans like and appreciate Villa Park and the atmosphere of a traditional club It happens more and more as the football ground landscape becomes very similarThere is always very favourable comments by the away visitors, proper ground, proper club all that sort of stuffI reckon it would be away fans favourite groundAnd there’s us saying we should knock it down. It’s an absolute jokeThere be an outcry from Villa fans if that ever happened and not only Villa fans It would be like knocking down Hever Castle because it isn’t roomy enough and the toilets need attentionI’ve been to most of the new grounds They are all nice, but there’s something missingLet’s not become the local counsellors of the 60’s and 70’s knocking down precious buildings and building shit that won’t last in its place Take the Villa away from Villa Park and you take the heart out of the club
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on July 06, 2023, 12:19:35 PMQuote from: Rico on July 06, 2023, 12:16:27 PMIt seems to me that the big stumbling block to increasing the capacity past 52k is the Doug Ellis. The question for right now imo is do we need a larger capacity? If in say ten years or so we are selling out at 52k then fair enough, but again it's begs the question what could be done to improve or increase the capacity of that stand considering the way it is hemmed in by the road, and the local residents right to light.Have you been reading the thread? Or anything else about the ground since last night?Yes.
Quote from: Rico on July 06, 2023, 12:16:27 PMIt seems to me that the big stumbling block to increasing the capacity past 52k is the Doug Ellis. The question for right now imo is do we need a larger capacity? If in say ten years or so we are selling out at 52k then fair enough, but again it's begs the question what could be done to improve or increase the capacity of that stand considering the way it is hemmed in by the road, and the local residents right to light.Have you been reading the thread? Or anything else about the ground since last night?
It seems to me that the big stumbling block to increasing the capacity past 52k is the Doug Ellis. The question for right now imo is do we need a larger capacity? If in say ten years or so we are selling out at 52k then fair enough, but again it's begs the question what could be done to improve or increase the capacity of that stand considering the way it is hemmed in by the road, and the local residents right to light.
It’s not really massively scaling back though is it?Delaying Villa Live, I mean.
VP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others.
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on July 06, 2023, 01:51:48 PMVP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others. Mainly because they win here.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on July 06, 2023, 01:37:54 PMIt’s not really massively scaling back though is it?Delaying Villa Live, I mean. Yes I wonder if they consider the priority is sorting the Witton lane some how rather than Villa Live
The new 'warehouse' (we're a football club not some sort of dance venue in digbeth) on the plan pictures I've seen has the current/old/not so sure 'shield' plastered all over it. What an absolute shambles [/quoteShould we get rid of the Holte Pub that we own then ?