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Offline Axl Rose

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3060 on: July 06, 2023, 01:28:07 PM »
I quite like the outside of the Doug Ellis.

Admittedly, it's nothing special, but I don't know, I just like walking alongside it.

Don't like sitting in it, however, and have only ever done so twice. 0-0 against Liverpool when Staunton got sent off for them, and that delayed kickoff Worthington Cup game, also against that horrid lot when we lost 4-3.

I think that pinhead, diving ****** Steven scored that day. ******.
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3061 on: July 06, 2023, 01:36:44 PM »
I quite like the outside of the Doug Ellis.

Admittedly, it's nothing special, but I don't know, I just like walking alongside it.

Don't like sitting in it, however, and have only ever done so twice. 0-0 against Liverpool when Staunton got sent off for them, and that delayed kickoff Worthington Cup game, also against that horrid lot when we lost 4-3.

I think that pinhead, diving ****** Steven scored that day. ******.
I think aesthetically it's acceptable.  The view sitting in it is also very good - I tend to choose it ahead of Trinity upper if I ever need to move from my ST seat - as it's pretty steep and close to the pitch.  The back of house facilities in the upper are an absolute disgrace though.  It's almost impossible to take a piss at half time, let alone buy a pint.  The queue for the women's w/c is simply unacceptable.

I'm surprised when I hear comments like above about away fans liking VP.  I imagine any who have sat in the Witton Upper think it's awful too.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3062 on: July 06, 2023, 01:37:54 PM »
It’s not really massively scaling back though is it?

Delaying Villa Live, I mean.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3063 on: July 06, 2023, 01:39:01 PM »
I quite like the outside of the Doug Ellis.

Admittedly, it's nothing special, but I don't know, I just like walking alongside it.

Don't like sitting in it, however, and have only ever done so twice. 0-0 against Liverpool when Staunton got sent off for them, and that delayed kickoff Worthington Cup game, also against that horrid lot when we lost 4-3.

I think that pinhead, diving ****** Steven scored that day. ******.
I think aesthetically it's acceptable.  The view sitting in it is also very good - I tend to choose it ahead of Trinity upper if I ever need to move from my ST seat - as it's pretty steep and close to the pitch.  The back of house facilities in the upper are an absolute disgrace though.  It's almost impossible to take a piss at half time, let alone buy a pint.  The queue for the women's w/c is simply unacceptable.

I'm surprised when I hear comments like above about away fans liking VP.  I imagine any who have sat in the Witton Upper think it's awful too.

Yep.

It is dangerously cramped in the concourse and really not up to the job of a modern stadium.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3064 on: July 06, 2023, 01:44:29 PM »
One thing I’ve noticed while a lot of clubs have moved to new grounds, how much the away fans like and appreciate Villa Park and the atmosphere of a traditional club
It happens more and more as the football ground landscape becomes very similar

There is always very favourable comments by the away visitors, proper ground, proper club all that sort of stuff
I reckon it would be away fans favourite ground

And there’s us saying we should knock it down. It’s an absolute joke
There be an outcry from Villa fans if that ever happened and not only Villa fans
It would be like knocking down Hever Castle because it isn’t roomy enough and the toilets need attention

I’ve been to most of the new grounds They are all nice, but there’s something missing
Let’s not become the local counsellors of the 60’s and 70’s knocking down precious buildings and building shit that won’t last in its place

Take the Villa away from Villa Park and you take the heart out of the club

There is a big difference between a Football Ground and a Stadium.

Wembley is a stadium, Old Trafford is a stadium, the Emirates is a stadium, Amsterdam arena etc..

Villa Park is a Football Ground. There are none of such quality and history to match it. The pretenders are gone, going or as good as dead - Highbury, WHL, Goodison, Hillsbrough etc...

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3065 on: July 06, 2023, 01:51:48 PM »
VP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3066 on: July 06, 2023, 01:59:46 PM »
It seems to me that the big stumbling block to increasing the capacity past 52k is the Doug Ellis. The question for right now imo is do we need a larger capacity? If in say ten years or so we are selling out at 52k then fair enough, but again it's begs the question what could be done to improve or increase the capacity of that stand considering the way it is hemmed in by the road, and the local residents right to light.

Have you been reading the thread? Or anything else about the ground since last night?

Yes.

In that case I’m surprised that news of us demolishing and rebuilding the Witton Lane stand and going to 60k capacity appears to have passed you by.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3067 on: July 06, 2023, 02:14:52 PM »
It’s not really massively scaling back though is it?

Delaying Villa Live, I mean.


Yes I wonder if they consider the priority is sorting the Witton lane some how rather than Villa Live

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3068 on: July 06, 2023, 02:20:57 PM »
VP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others.

Mainly because they win here.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3069 on: July 06, 2023, 02:22:35 PM »
VP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others.

Mainly because they win here.

Soon to be a thing of the past.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3070 on: July 06, 2023, 02:24:05 PM »
VP is massively popular with fans of other clubs, based on the groups i'm in that are about grounds it's a contender for most popular in the country. That's even allowing for those that say the upper concourses are shit, as are apparently the views if you're in the top corner. I don't think a lot of us realise just how high an esteem it's held in by others.

Mainly because they win here.

well that is about to change Sir !!!  (  fingers and toes crossed )

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3071 on: July 06, 2023, 02:26:47 PM »
It’s not really massively scaling back though is it?

Delaying Villa Live, I mean.


Yes I wonder if they consider the priority is sorting the Witton lane some how rather than Villa Live
No I think that's a red herring.  I can't just see them starting on the Witton for at least 10 years, there's just too many planning / housing issues to sort out.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3072 on: July 06, 2023, 02:30:16 PM »
The new 'warehouse' (we're a football club not some sort of dance venue in digbeth) on the plan pictures I've seen has the current/old/not so sure 'shield' plastered all over it.

What an absolute shambles

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3073 on: July 06, 2023, 02:44:19 PM »
The new 'warehouse' (we're a football club not some sort of dance venue in digbeth) on the plan pictures I've seen has the current/old/not so sure 'shield' plastered all over it.

What an absolute shambles

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Should we get rid of  the Holte Pub that we own then ?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #3074 on: July 06, 2023, 02:47:30 PM »
It’s not really massively scaling back though is it?

Delaying Villa Live, I mean.

Perhaps not, as obviously getting the stand right and the increased capacity is the main thing. I just think it's disappointing, and combined with the badge nonsense it all just looks a bit amateur and small time.

 


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