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Offline Risso

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1395 on: September 06, 2022, 03:12:47 PM »
It's also probably at the limit of the optimum viewing distance from the pitch too. Any further back and you'd be watching subbuteo. I think  it's one of the reasons the upper tier doesn't connect. It would just be so far away from the opposite corner of the pitch.
I’m sure you’re right that it’s at the limit of the optimum viewing distance, but Wembley for example obviously has seats that are further away from the action.

Isn't there a minimum maximum allowable distance from the pitch? It's why some stands are so much steeper than others.
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1396 on: September 06, 2022, 03:14:27 PM »
It's also probably at the limit of the optimum viewing distance from the pitch too. Any further back and you'd be watching subbuteo. I think  it's one of the reasons the upper tier doesn't connect. It would just be so far away from the opposite corner of the pitch.
I’m sure you’re right that it’s at the limit of the optimum viewing distance, but Wembley for example obviously has seats that are further away from the action.

Isn't there a minimum allowable distance from the pitch? It's why some stands are so much steeper than others.

Maximum surely?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1397 on: September 06, 2022, 03:18:54 PM »
Exactly what I said, erm...

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1398 on: September 06, 2022, 03:24:44 PM »
It's also probably at the limit of the optimum viewing distance from the pitch too. Any further back and you'd be watching subbuteo. I think  it's one of the reasons the upper tier doesn't connect. It would just be so far away from the opposite corner of the pitch.
I’m sure you’re right that it’s at the limit of the optimum viewing distance, but Wembley for example obviously has seats that are further away from the action.

One of the factors - it's in one of the docs on that link somewhere, they have to do right-to-daylight impact studies on any residential or commercial property that will be impacted by the size of the new stand.

The houses on Nelson Road are the main ones, they'd be impacted by anything much taller, I'd imagine.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1399 on: September 06, 2022, 03:51:07 PM »
If I lived down Witton Lane, I'd be getting a local group together, to tell the club "just buy our houses for double their price"! Imagine what we could do if the road and houses weren't there.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1400 on: September 06, 2022, 05:05:48 PM »
If I lived down Witton Lane, I'd be getting a local group together, to tell the club "just buy our houses for double their price"! Imagine what we could do if the road and houses weren't there.
I have a friend who lives there and he said most of the residents are hoping Villa would buy them out at a reasonable premium above market price.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1401 on: September 06, 2022, 05:07:22 PM »
Anyone know why the club has suddenly started to refer to the Trinity Road Stand as just simply the Trinity Stand?

I thought it might have been a Purslowism but it’s present throughout the planning documents.

Really don’t like it.
I like it and I also think North stand should be names after me as I have now been sitting there for 10 years.

I didn't realise you were in there too. Call it the Castle Bromwich Has All The Best Villa Fans Stand and be done with it.
Let truth be displayed in neon lights at Villa park.

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« Reply #1402 on: September 06, 2022, 05:12:39 PM »
Trinity North is a great name. I knew aftab must have been  a fiction.
I do have 3 season tickets so appropriate and no one is holier than I ;D

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1403 on: September 06, 2022, 05:15:49 PM »
If I lived down Witton Lane, I'd be getting a local group together, to tell the club "just buy our houses for double their price"! Imagine what we could do if the road and houses weren't there.
I have a friend who lives there and he said most of the residents are hoping Villa would buy them out at a reasonable premium above market price.
The club is probably treading on eggshells a bit here, particularly given what happened at Liverpool.  They'll also be keen to avoid any isolated 'ransom' plots.  If there really is a weight of people who would be interested then Risso's idea is probably a very good one.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1404 on: September 06, 2022, 06:11:08 PM »
If I lived down Witton Lane, I'd be getting a local group together, to tell the club "just buy our houses for double their price"! Imagine what we could do if the road and houses weren't there.
I have a friend who lives there and he said most of the residents are hoping Villa would buy them out at a reasonable premium above market price.
The club is probably treading on eggshells a bit here, particularly given what happened at Liverpool.  They'll also be keen to avoid any isolated 'ransom' plots.  If there really is a weight of people who would be interested then Risso's idea is probably a very good one.

Yes, looking at the birds eye view elevations, the Holte & Witton Lane stands look tiny compared to the other two. A continuation of the new North stand along Witton Lane would massively increase capacity. Transport problems would still need to be solved though, even more so.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1405 on: September 06, 2022, 06:11:14 PM »
Trinity North is a great name. I knew aftab must have been  a fiction.

I do have 3 season tickets so appropriate and no one is holier than I ;D

It's also the name of your favourite stripper. :D

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1406 on: September 06, 2022, 06:28:37 PM »
If I lived down Witton Lane, I'd be getting a local group together, to tell the club "just buy our houses for double their price"! Imagine what we could do if the road and houses weren't there.
I have a friend who lives there and he said most of the residents are hoping Villa would buy them out at a reasonable premium above market price.


Looking at google maps it looks like they have good sized gardens ,  so if we did buy them you would have s reasonable space to build on

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1407 on: September 06, 2022, 06:37:49 PM »
Does anyone know what arrangements were made re: the houses that were demolished along Witton Lane where the linear garden now is?

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1408 on: September 06, 2022, 07:23:48 PM »
Some interesting bits in the Transport Assessment from someone who works on such things for a living.

The club has committed to 3 years of funding for bus shuttle service between Aston Park and the city centre, amongst other parking and public realm improvements, including the changes to Witton Lane and improved pedestrian access to Witton Lane. Witton Road is also to be closed post-match. AV1 to Tamworth is also to be funded for all evening and cup games.

The club is also looking at agreeing a park and ride from the city centre, with bus shuttle service provided, with all revenue retained by BCC, as well as other AV2, AV3 bus services.

No commitments on improving Aston Station pedestrian management, but there will further fan consultations. The transport surveys showed Aston Station generally clear of queuing by 5.30 at the matches the surveys were undertaken.

The number of 'normal' ticket allocations will increase by around 4,400 (home and away), with maximum away allocation (presumably for cup games) at 7,500 (currently 6,390). Hospitality capacity is increasing from 1,800 to 4,850.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #1409 on: September 06, 2022, 08:45:21 PM »
In the event we qualify for Europe, this surely represents the best chance of European football being seen down the Albion again for the first time in 20 years.
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