Villa Park Redevelopment

[dave.woodhall]

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I see that as rather pointless. I wouldnt pay £80 for that

Nobody's forcing you to.

[paul_e]

Meanwhile, Arsenal looking to expand the Emirates: (mailonline link):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14096209/arsenal-emirates-stadium-changes-upgrades.html

"Reports emerged last week that Arsenal have set a target of 80,000 seats, which would make the Emirates the fifth-biggest stadium in Europe behind the Nou Camp, Wembley, Twickenham and the Stade de France."

Doesn't seem accurate to me.

Croke Park would also be bigger.

If we're including silly sports then Silverstone is a lot bigger than Croke Park. Seems to me that it's implicit that they were on about football. And ffs now I'm defending the Daily Heil.

Badly as well, Twickenham is included so it's not football specific, they're just shit.

[Brazilian Villain]

"Reports emerged last week that Arsenal have set a target of 80,000 seats, which would make the Emirates the fifth-biggest stadium in Europe behind the Nou Camp, Wembley, Twickenham and the Stade de France."

Doesn't seem accurate to me.

Croke Park would also be bigger.

If we're including silly sports then Silverstone is a lot bigger than Croke Park. Seems to me that it's implicit that they were on about football. And ffs now I'm defending the Daily Heil.

Badly as well, Twickenham is included so it's not football specific, they're just shit.

Even if it were football specific, Croke Parks has been the venue for Gaelic football, Association football and American football matches.

[dean saunders left boot]

I’m sure there will be a good take up just as there was for the Trinity Road pavers.

Loads of them are all worn out now , think they were £50

Yep, I bought 2 and they’re both worn down to the point that you can’t read them anymore

Yeah my mum brought me and my brother pavers, but they are faded away. In the FAQ's for this wall they are offering those who have pavers a complimentary plaque if you email them with a scanned copy of their original certificates. Thankfully my Mum had them stashed away in a folder which i've just found so will be taking them up on the offer seeing as they let the pavers fade away with no thought to upkeep

[London Villan]

They did re-engrave our paver at one point. But most have disappeared now.

[The Edge]

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I see that as rather pointless. I wouldnt pay £80 for that

I think it's a lovely idea.

[VillaTim]

I’m sure there will be a good take up just as there was for the Trinity Road pavers.

Loads of them are all worn out now , think they were £50

Yep, I bought 2 and they’re both worn down to the point that you can’t read them anymore

I guess they will last longer on a wall though

unless people keep touching them 

[Border villan]

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I see that as rather pointless. I wouldnt pay £80 for that

I think it's a lovely idea.

All in all they’re just another brick in the wall.


Apologies.

[VillaTim]

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Just trying to work out location , is this next to the Mississippi steamboat or behind it

[Dante Lavelli]

We do have another set of billionaire owners. They're the investment arm of Comcast. Finance self evidently was no issue prior to December 2023 and it is even less of an issue now.

The board for NWSE is now also loaded up with expertise in stadium development as of recent appointments.

We comfortably sell out GA, we sell a surprisingly large amount of Arsenal priced GA+ and Corporate.

I'll copy that to save typing it out for the 112th time as this thread goes round and round and round and round.

It's a weird position at the moment, everything about the Comcast deal screams "new stadium" but everything the club says and does points to nothing happening.

I’m starting to think this is part of a negotiation stand off between NSWE and Comcast.

NSWE’s red-line is no new stadium and sweating the existing assets. Comcast need a ROI and therefore a new stadium.  The dance is how that investment/stadium is funded and how much equity is traded.

[Percy McCarthy]

We do have another set of billionaire owners. They're the investment arm of Comcast. Finance self evidently was no issue prior to December 2023 and it is even less of an issue now.

The board for NWSE is now also loaded up with expertise in stadium development as of recent appointments.

We comfortably sell out GA, we sell a surprisingly large amount of Arsenal priced GA+ and Corporate.

I'll copy that to save typing it out for the 112th time as this thread goes round and round and round and round.

It's a weird position at the moment, everything about the Comcast deal screams "new stadium" but everything the club says and does points to nothing happening.

I’m starting to think this is part of a negotiation stand off between NSWE and Comcast.

NSWE’s red-line is no new stadium and sweating the existing assets. Comcast need a ROI and therefore a new stadium.  The dance is how that investment/stadium is funded and how much equity is traded.

I always thought we were in a great position to stay put as we could get up to 60k cap by replacing two inadequate stands quite cheaply. Half-a-billion? Whereas a new build would probably set us back treble that.

Then the possibility of new legislation on safe standing ratios that could see us expand beyond that.

[The Edge]

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Just trying to work out location , is this next to the Mississippi steamboat or behind it

The old retaining wall behind it i think. Speaking of which they have copied our ideas yet again over at the Sty by making a fan zone. It's a massive blue and white marquee which will house bars and has room for live bands. Must admit that sounds better than Hecks Mississipi Steamboat as you called it. Great description that. Still not to worry when Stumps gets redeveloped it should be great. Unless he postpones it like the NS re-build.

[Villan82]

We do have another set of billionaire owners. They're the investment arm of Comcast. Finance self evidently was no issue prior to December 2023 and it is even less of an issue now.

The board for NWSE is now also loaded up with expertise in stadium development as of recent appointments.

We comfortably sell out GA, we sell a surprisingly large amount of Arsenal priced GA+ and Corporate.

I'll copy that to save typing it out for the 112th time as this thread goes round and round and round and round.

It's a weird position at the moment, everything about the Comcast deal screams "new stadium" but everything the club says and does points to nothing happening.

I’m starting to think this is part of a negotiation stand off between NSWE and Comcast.

NSWE’s red-line is no new stadium and sweating the existing assets. Comcast need a ROI and therefore a new stadium.  The dance is how that investment/stadium is funded and how much equity is traded.

I always thought we were in a great position to stay put as we could get up to 60k cap by replacing two inadequate stands quite cheaply. Half-a-billion? Whereas a new build would probably set us back treble that.

Then the possibility of new legislation on safe standing ratios that could see us expand beyond that.

Correct. We have no reason to move. I think you only move if you are guaranteed a better transport infrastructure and I can't see where that is on that side of the city. 

I just think somebody at the club has figured out that you can up  revenue significantly by offering a more exclusive package on the existing stadium bowl without having to spend big on a big new stand that increases capacity. So this year we spent something like £25m on improving the posh offering instead of £100m getting to 50k.

I hope I am badly wrong but everything that has happened over the past year points to that.

[eamonn]

Missisippi Steamboat! Brilliant.

[Chris Smith]

My guess is that they decided that turning the ground into a building site was not a good look for the 150th year anniversary and first year back in the top European competition so they would look to maximise revenue in the short term. It still gives them scope to increase capacity in the future while retaining the income from the premium offerings and with a better understanding of the potential market for more of the same.