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Offline paul_e

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12030 on: Today at 06:04:29 AM »
Because no one is willing to admit that Kane was pointless once we'd gone ahead.

Every solution offered relies on the assumption that Kane and Bellingham are untouchable, which is a problem when what the team is crying out for is a striker to stay high and chase lost causes and try to buy a few cheap free kicks up the field.

Tuchel feel into the trap that is always there with England of worrying about the press.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12031 on: Today at 08:33:46 AM »
Because no one is willing to admit that Kane was pointless once we'd gone ahead.

Every solution offered relies on the assumption that Kane and Bellingham are untouchable, which is a problem when what the team is crying out for is a striker to stay high and chase lost causes and try to buy a few cheap free kicks up the field.

Tuchel feel into the trap that is always there with England of worrying about the press.
100%

Offline darren woolley

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12032 on: Today at 08:57:16 AM »
I would have liked him to have come on in the Final.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12033 on: Today at 09:38:19 AM »
Ivan Toney had more minutes up top than Ollie.

Even Dan Burn played more minutes as a striker than Ollie.

Ollie should refuse to play in the consolation game Saturday Night. He won't as he is conscientious top model pro.

Offline brontebilly

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12034 on: Today at 09:48:30 AM »
Ollie will be absolutely fuming. On club form he must have been the player in the squad coming in with the hottest form. Did the business in big games in the previous tournament. Watching Kane stink it out again in last two games must have been a killer.

Only one thing for it, PL top scorer next season. No way we should consider selling him for any money.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12035 on: Today at 09:50:23 AM »
Olie went into this world cup on a high and extremely confident. And then treated to 10 mins including stoppages over 6 matches. Joint with old man Henderson and ahead of Mainoo who was the only non injured outfield player not to get on the pitch. And all because Kane is not allowed to be subbed off when he tires at the end of matches.

Offline Rotterdam

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12036 on: Today at 09:56:41 AM »
Because no one is willing to admit that Kane was pointless once we'd gone ahead.

Every solution offered relies on the assumption that Kane and Bellingham are untouchable, which is a problem when what the team is crying out for is a striker to stay high and chase lost causes and try to buy a few cheap free kicks up the field.

Tuchel feel into the trap that is always there with England of worrying about the press.
100%

Ditto

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12037 on: Today at 09:57:25 AM »
End of matches?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12038 on: Today at 10:29:20 AM »
Ollie will be absolutely fuming. On club form he must have been the player in the squad coming in with the hottest form. Did the business in big games in the previous tournament. Watching Kane stink it out again in last two games must have been a killer.

Only one thing for it, PL top scorer next season. No way we should consider selling him for any money.

Absolutely.

Offline chrisw1

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12039 on: Today at 10:38:11 AM »
It was too late when they took the lead.

The time Ollie's pace and energy would have been really useful would have been as an outlet and presser when we were defending the lead.  I get that you want to keep Kane on for penalties and him being a key player. But in that moment, I thought Ollie was more suited to what we were trying to do.

In terms of the Toney thing, it was unlikely to make a difference at that point.  Toney was as likely to get on the end of a punt as anyone else and probably a better bet if we got to pens.  But for stratching the game during that second half?  Ollie would have been perfect.


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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12040 on: Today at 10:59:39 AM »
If I was Ollie I would be telling Tuchel to go climb a tree and wouldn't be playing on Saturday. But the backlash that would ferment would be ridiculous for him and I wouldn't want to see him shoot himself in the foot like that. He doesn't deserve it.

He needs to keep his head down, act the professional, play if he is asked to, and then flick a few Vs at Tuchel as he departs.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12041 on: Today at 11:19:24 AM »
Yeah, I don't think it would've made any difference at that stage, but bringing on Toney was a symptom, or like an indicator species, of England's broken thinking by then. From before the hydration break even, they'd just decided too not have a midfield, to not think about the middle of the pitch at all, to just try and head it out of our box and, when that didn't come off, try and head it in theirs.

The dumb thing is, why keep Kane on if you have no intention of keeping the ball? Kane can be a massive, massive asset to a possession team, but the poor bastard spent the last half hour plus loping folornly about, being asked to play a game that isn't his. Watkins would've run hard at these tiring centre backs, win throws, fouls, maybe even have got one of them sent off - at any rate given them cause to glance backwards when England managed to clear their lines.

Instead, it was as if we just decided to give the ball to their midfield and stand as close to our goal as possible. Who was in their midfield again? What's the worst that could happen?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12042 on: Today at 11:20:51 AM »
There's fuck all chance Ollie would have any interest in refusing to play in a World Cup match.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12043 on: Today at 11:23:50 AM »
Ollie should refuse to play in the consolation game Saturday Night. He won't as he is conscientious top model pro.

Knowing our luck, he'll probably play on Saturday and get injured.

Offline Coop

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #12044 on: Today at 11:24:45 AM »
Emi Martinez must've thought to himself...

"Hope they don't put Ollie on. We're being sucked forward so much that he'll murder us on the break!"

 


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