Ollie Watkins

[Dave]

What's this 17 in 54? He's scored 16 in 36. 16 the season before that, 19 before that and 15 before that. He's not a 12 a season scorer.

Last season, with the perfectly decent league record warped by one goal in twelve Champions League games.

[PeterWithesShin]

League record is the key for me, it's a consistent format to judge a player especially against their peers. Cup games have a number of variables that while of course we want lots of cup goals they don't tell the story that league goals do.

As an example 10 goals in 4 cup games sounds great. But those games were against Kiddy, Walsall, South Shields and Southend.
2 goals in 12 cup games sounds cack especially in comparison, but maybe there were a bunch of weaker line ups, sub appearances, the games were all against elite sides etc. You don't get that range of variables in a league season year after year.

Exhibit A is Simon Stainrod. from memory he got 11 cup goals one season but only 1 was against a top flight side and that was Oxford.

[RamboandBruno]

From another thread, but perhaps food for thought!

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I back away quietly into the weedy corner

[KevinGage]

21 goals in all competitions from our first choice forward in a successful season. Plus five assists.

A forward who rarely misses games (and as we've seen in other positions, availability is a quality all of its own) despite the heavy workload.

He'll do until we can find a modern version of Emilio Butragueno or Gary Penrice.

With better service or gaps opening up from a speedy new winger or two he might get even better, who knows. 

[Beard82]

I would say in his last 3 or 4 games of the season he was outstanding - against forest he was as good as I have seen a forward play for villa.

[paul_e]

What's this 17 in 54? He's scored 16 in 36. 16 the season before that, 19 before that and 15 before that. He's not a 12 a season scorer.

Last season, with the perfectly decent league record warped by one goal in twelve Champions League games.

Even then that champions league record is slightly misleading because 5 of those were as a sub.

[Smithy]

What's this 17 in 54? He's scored 16 in 36. 16 the season before that, 19 before that and 15 before that. He's not a 12 a season scorer.

Last season, with the perfectly decent league record warped by one goal in twelve Champions League games.

Even then that champions league record is slightly misleading because 5 of those were as a sub.

Yep, after the January, when Asensio and Rashford came in, he was on the bench in the Champions League.

[brontebilly]

What's this 17 in 54? He's scored 16 in 36. 16 the season before that, 19 before that and 15 before that. He's not a 12 a season scorer.

Last season, with the perfectly decent league record warped by one goal in twelve Champions League games.

He could have had twelve that night v Celtic. That's Ollie.

[Somniloquism]

Even his league stats for 24/25 is misleading as he played less minutes that year and when working it out on goals per minutes played, was actually on a better strike rate then the 23/24 season.