Ollie Watkins

[Smirker]

Where is the rewriting of history? The numbers are:

54 apps
17 goals

Not a good goal return.

I'm talking about goals.

His goalscoring, has never been great.

But the previous point was even by the logic of the Watkins Worshippers, when you add assists, this season has still been disastrous.

G/A as a unified metric is a modern phenomenon that's came about post Messi/Ronaldo. Nobody measured 'goal contributions' before that. Why not go further and add pre-assists? Strikers have always been judged on goals, and Ollie doesn't score enough. Clutch all the straws you want.

[paul_e]

I give up, you're not worth the effort on this topic, I genuinely can't understand why someone would get themselves of being this determined to shit on the record of player who has been so good for us, it's just fucking weird.

[brontebilly]

Where is the rewriting of history? The numbers are:

54 apps
17 goals

Not a good goal return.

I'm talking about goals.

His goalscoring, has never been great.

But the previous point was even by the logic of the Watkins Worshippers, when you add assists, this season has still been disastrous.

G/A as a unified metric is a modern phenomenon that's came about post Messi/Ronaldo. Nobody measured 'goal contributions' before that. Why not go further and add pre-assists? Strikers have always been judged on goals, and Ollie doesn't score enough. Clutch all the straws you want.

This season has been a disastrous one for Watkins so far, there aren't many disputing that. Maybe Emery or even you spotted that decline towards the back end of last season but there weren't many complaining about Watkins after his performance v Newcastle for example. Turned the game v Southampton, winner at Bournemouth, assist v Tottenham. Solid performances down the stretch bar that collapse on the final day. Club have been open to letting him go for 12 months so maybe Emery was concerned but we are where we are.

Far too much focus on metrics for sure but it's useful for Watkins as he wasn't just a penalty box forward. He always contributed to our general play and the assist count highlighted that.

If strikers are judged solely on goals then take Van Nistelrooy at Man United as an example. He scored a crazy amount of goals but Man United were a more successful team before and after him.