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Author Topic: Ollie Watkins  (Read 927290 times)

Online Somniloquism

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8760 on: September 25, 2025, 11:29:56 PM »
McGinn has missed one fair enough, he hasn't missed 7 out of 12 though.

Tielemans has scored 1 in his last 5 (not including shootouts) but you mention him as first choice taker. I was just stating that McGinn would have had more pressure to score as he missed the other night. Watkins scored so shouldn't have.

(Also it is 7 out of 13 if going on CD's stats, still not good enough but you don't have to make even those stats appear worse then actually are as well).

Tielemans - 25 scored, 7 missed.

Big difference.

But most of those 7 have been in the last 3 years. Before scoring for Belgium last month, he hadn't scored a Pen in open play since Septermber 2022. 4 straight missed.

Offline Rory

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8761 on: September 25, 2025, 11:31:34 PM »
Not sure how many he actually took for us, but I used to love Big John Carew's approach to penalty-taking. Either he was scoring, or the goalkeeper was going to hospital.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8762 on: September 25, 2025, 11:32:59 PM »
Flipside if I was ever watching a game and Julian Dicks took one I expected him to score, and he was hardly blessed with skills or technique.

Offline Smirker

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8763 on: September 25, 2025, 11:40:22 PM »
It is its own skill, goal scoring and even general technique aren't always a guide to someone being good at them. Merson never gave me confidence despite his ability, as an example.

Yep. Maradona and Messi no great shakes at them.

Messi's conversion rate is just under 78% which is pretty good tbf. Ronaldo's is 84.5% for comparison.

Offline OzVilla

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8764 on: September 25, 2025, 11:45:36 PM »
I've no problems with Watkins getting the penalty, I think it was worth the gamble.

Offline Olof's Beard

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8765 on: September 25, 2025, 11:53:29 PM »
He is a complex fella is Ollie, you can see he gets in his own head during these runs. But on the flip side, when he does score a couple, he is always capable of going on a little run.

It is really hard for us to cope with both him and Rogers losing all confidence at the same time, we need them both back in form and quickly.

Offline Skipper_The_Eyechild

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8766 on: Today at 12:11:41 AM »
It is its own skill, goal scoring and even general technique aren't always a guide to someone being good at them. Merson never gave me confidence despite his ability, as an example.

Yep. Maradona and Messi no great shakes at them.

Messi's conversion rate is just under 78% which is pretty good tbf. Ronaldo's is 84.5% for comparison.

It's still lower than most of the elite players and makes him pretty average in that area, which you wouldn't expect from him. I know it used to be around an 80% chance of scoring, don't know if it still is.

Offline Smirker

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8767 on: Today at 01:08:59 AM »
It is its own skill, goal scoring and even general technique aren't always a guide to someone being good at them. Merson never gave me confidence despite his ability, as an example.

Yep. Maradona and Messi no great shakes at them.

Messi's conversion rate is just under 78% which is pretty good tbf. Ronaldo's is 84.5% for comparison.

It's still lower than most of the elite players and makes him pretty average in that area, which you wouldn't expect from him. I know it used to be around an 80% chance of scoring, don't know if it still is.

It's above van Nistelrooy (75%) and almost exactly the same as Thierry Henry's (77.8%)

Maradona's was 93.5% btw  :-X

Offline Skipper_The_Eyechild

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8768 on: Today at 01:21:33 AM »
It may be above those, but it's still lower than a fuck load of players, even the likes of Danny Murphy. It just shows that it is a specific skill in of itself.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8769 on: Today at 08:59:52 AM »
Flipside if I was ever watching a game and Julian Dicks took one I expected him to score, and he was hardly blessed with skills or technique.
For that same reason I think Matty Cash might be a good option. He can really hit a ball hard.

 


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