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Author Topic: Ollie Watkins  (Read 1224618 times)

Offline olaftab

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8745 on: September 25, 2025, 10:06:12 PM »



Pretty damning.

Offline FatSam

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8746 on: September 25, 2025, 10:09:51 PM »
I like Ollie, but he’s not a penalty taker. He’s got about a 50% success rate hasn’t he? The sample size is too big now to argue otherwise.

His run to win the penalty was good I thought. But the entire team, squad even, seems to be lacking confidence. I heard someone say that we’re still feeling sorry for ourselves after missing out on the CL. That’s the only explanation that makes sense to me.

Offline Meanwood Villa

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8747 on: September 25, 2025, 10:26:45 PM »
Awful penalty

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8748 on: September 25, 2025, 11:01:21 PM »
Scored six, missed seven. It's a bit better if you only count his Villa career, then it's scored five, missed four. Still nowhere near good enough to be penalty taker.

Offline Ian.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8749 on: September 25, 2025, 11:08:41 PM »
Even when Ollie’s in good form he shouldn’t be taking the pens.

Offline Smirker

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8750 on: September 25, 2025, 11:11:04 PM »
Being a good finisher helps when taking penalties. It generally correlates.

Because Watkins isn't a good finisher, and is a confidence player, you have all the ingredients to make a terrible penalty record.

As soon as I saw he was taking it I knew it wasn't going in.

McGinn has a clean strike, he should be taking them with Tielemens out.

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8751 on: September 25, 2025, 11:13:32 PM »
Being a good finisher helps when taking penalties. It generally correlates.

Because Watkins isn't a good finisher, and is a confidence player, you have all the ingredients to make a terrible penalty record.

As soon as I saw he was taking it I knew it wasn't going in.

McGinn has a clean strike, he should be taking them with Tielemens out.

McGinn missed against Brentford, Watkins scored. I thought he would have used that as an example for taking one today. Obviously he didn't

Offline Smirker

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8752 on: September 25, 2025, 11:15:28 PM »
McGinn has missed one fair enough, he hasn't missed 7 out of 12 though.

He was the best option for tonight. Maybe even Guessand to get him off the mark.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8753 on: September 25, 2025, 11:19:33 PM »
Some players just aren't good at pens. Ollie is one of those. Bigger problem is there was no one on the pitch for us that I was confident in. A reliable penalty taker is a useful asset, and Tielemans is probably our best but even he doesn't fill with me massive confidence.

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8754 on: September 25, 2025, 11:20:26 PM »
McGinn has missed one fair enough, he hasn't missed 7 out of 12 though.

Tielemans has scored 1 in his last 5 (not including shootouts) but you mention him as first choice taker. I was just stating that McGinn would have had more pressure to score as he missed the other night. Watkins scored so shouldn't have.

(Also it is 7 out of 13 if going on CD's stats, still not good enough but you don't have to make even those stats appear worse then actually are as well).
« Last Edit: September 25, 2025, 11:22:46 PM by Somniloquism »

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8755 on: September 25, 2025, 11:21:36 PM »
McGinn has never looked a confident penalty taker, to me. Even when I have seen him score for Scotland, he has always sort of scuffed them in. I don't know the answer really.

Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8756 on: September 25, 2025, 11:25:01 PM »
Can we not train someone up? Offer them overtime or something.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8757 on: September 25, 2025, 11:25:53 PM »
It is its own skill, goal scoring and even general technique aren't always a guide to someone being good at them. Merson never gave me confidence despite his ability, as an example.

Offline Smirker

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8758 on: September 25, 2025, 11:26:22 PM »
McGinn has missed one fair enough, he hasn't missed 7 out of 12 though.

Tielemans has scored 1 in his last 5 (not including shootouts) but you mention him as first choice taker. I was just stating that McGinn would have had more pressure to score as he missed the other night. Watkins scored so shouldn't have.

(Also it is 7 out of 13 if going on CD's stats, still not good enough but you don't have to make even those stats appear worse then actually are as well).

Tielemans - 25 scored, 7 missed.

Big difference.


Offline Sexual Ealing

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #8759 on: September 25, 2025, 11:29:48 PM »
It is its own skill, goal scoring and even general technique aren't always a guide to someone being good at them. Merson never gave me confidence despite his ability, as an example.

Yep. Maradona and Messi no great shakes at them.

 


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