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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5910 on: August 24, 2024, 08:06:42 PM »
I've not said he's going anywhere, I am just wondering why he looks so, I dunno, not quite right, and wondering if he's had noise in the background this summer.

It's not like we don't have a history of this sort of thing with our players and England.

He’s had quite the summer with England, the new kid and getting engaged. Or was it married. No pre season. He looks off it for sure. That first miss was a shocker. But he’s the type to get a goal then goon a run of 5 or 6 games scoring. Not many sides can afford him so I don’t think it’s that. He spoke brilliantly of Emery in a recent interview. He will come good. He’s a superb forward in a bit of a funk. That’s all.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5911 on: August 24, 2024, 08:07:37 PM »
Hardly anyone can both afford him and actually need him so who is going to whisper in his ear?

There is always someone interested in top quality players.

Who needs a striker? Well, Arsenal did, and so do Chelsea.

Once more, I am not saying he's been saying he wants to leave or that this club or that club would want him, but I just feel uneasy.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5912 on: August 24, 2024, 08:07:50 PM »
I've not said he's going anywhere, I am just wondering why he looks so, I dunno, not quite right, and wondering if he's had noise in the background this summer.

It's probably the prospect of getting married.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5913 on: August 24, 2024, 08:08:08 PM »
I've not said he's going anywhere, I am just wondering why he looks so, I dunno, not quite right, and wondering if he's had noise in the background this summer.

It's not like we don't have a history of this sort of thing with our players and England.

He’s had quite the summer with England, the new kid and getting engaged. Or was it married. No pre season. He looks off it for sure. That first miss was a shocker. But he’s the type to get a goal then goon a run of 5 or 6 games scoring. Not many sides can afford him so I don’t think it’s that. He spoke brilliantly of Emery in a recent interview. He will come good. He’s a superb forward in a bit of a funk. That’s all.

Yeah tbf, he's always had that brilliance - brilliance - shocker thing in him,

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5914 on: August 24, 2024, 08:11:32 PM »
I've not said he's going anywhere, I am just wondering why he looks so, I dunno, not quite right, and wondering if he's had noise in the background this summer.

It's not like we don't have a history of this sort of thing with our players and England.

Hardly any pre season.

He had three cameos for England in the summer, none were more than half an hour so when you add up all the minutes he hasn't played a 90 minute match since middle of May.

You can be an amazing player but if you basically skip pre season and go straight back into high intensity matches you're going to come up short unless you're a Messi generational talent.

He'll come good in September as PWS said above just like last season.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5915 on: August 24, 2024, 08:12:11 PM »
Chelsea aren't spending another £100m on a player, even they haven't smoked that much crack. Arsenal maybe, not convinced they have £100m floating around though. So why are you uneasy if no one is seriously after him and he doesn't want to leave? Is it just jitters after a loss and decades of Villa, or would you still have been uneasy if Raya doesn't pull off a one percenter and we win 1-0?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5916 on: August 24, 2024, 08:14:16 PM »
Again, not saying he's been talking to clubs about moves, but I just wonder if there's been something unsettling - some noise - going on in the background.

He just looks, I dunno, not like himself.

He's been subbed off in both matches so far. That's unusual.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5917 on: August 24, 2024, 08:15:58 PM »
Hardly anyone can both afford him and actually need him so who is going to whisper in his ear?

There is always someone interested in top quality players.

Who needs a striker? Well, Arsenal did, and so do Chelsea.

Once more, I am not saying he's been saying he wants to leave or that this club or that club would want him, but I just feel uneasy.

Why on earth would he move to Chelsea? He had his fix of Europa Conference last season. People are still talking like we're finishing 12th-14th in the league. We're currently a better team and club than Chelsea and proving it each season.

Of course growing up as Arsenal fan and already playing in London he'd seriously consider that but let's remember he's 29 at the end of the season. Arsenal have shown no interest in Toney who's a similar age and I think the fee we'd demand would put many clubs off.

If Arsenal want that type I think they'll go for Isak who's five years younger and could well push to leave if Newcastle don't make CL this year.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5918 on: August 24, 2024, 08:16:46 PM »
Someone has to make the noise though, so where do you think it would be coming from if no one is seriously able, or wanting, to buy him?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5919 on: August 24, 2024, 08:17:50 PM »
Need to make sure he's "crocked" over the international break so he can get some solid work on at BMH.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5920 on: August 24, 2024, 08:18:48 PM »
Someone has to make the noise though, so where do you think it would be coming from if no one is seriously able, or wanting, to buy him?

So, you don't think, after last season and the summer he had, that there would have been potential suitors? Really?

And I am not talking about now, I am talking over the summer.

You think there's genuinely nobody?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5921 on: August 24, 2024, 08:19:13 PM »
Need to make sure he's "crocked" over the international break so he can get some solid work on at BMH.

Yep. Him being excluded from the next England squad is what we need to fully get him going. Two weeks of solid work at BMH rather than flying around and getting 20 minute sub cameos for England.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5922 on: August 24, 2024, 08:19:38 PM »
Needs to find his mojo fast. Great player, but does have phases during a season where he can't score. Hopefully this phase is done and dusted. We can't carry an out of form player, we've spent years doing that with players because we've had no other option. It will have an impact on the season if he is off of it.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5923 on: August 24, 2024, 08:20:01 PM »
Hardly anyone can both afford him and actually need him so who is going to whisper in his ear?

There is always someone interested in top quality players.

Who needs a striker? Well, Arsenal did, and so do Chelsea.

Once more, I am not saying he's been saying he wants to leave or that this club or that club would want him, but I just feel uneasy.

Why on earth would he move to Chelsea? He had his fix of Europa Conference last season. People are still talking like we're finishing 12th-14th in the league. We're currently a better team and club than Chelsea and proving it each season.

Of course growing up as Arsenal fan and already playing in London he'd seriously consider that but let's remember he's 29 at the end of the season. Arsenal have shown no interest in Toney who's a similar age and I think the fee we'd demand would put many clubs off.

If Arsenal want that type I think they'll go for Isak who's five years younger and could well push to leave if Newcastle don't make CL this year.

I didn't say he'd move to Chelsea.

I didn't say he'd move to Arsenal, either.

I didn't suggest he'd want to leave Villa at any point.

He's had a brilliant season last year, and has vastly raised his profile over the summer. That is bound to create noise, wanted or unwanted.

That noise alone is potentially distracting.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5924 on: August 24, 2024, 08:20:45 PM »
Nope, which is why I said no in my original answer. He'd cost at least £100m, I don't think anyone would pay that for him.

 


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