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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5205 on: April 27, 2024, 11:57:13 AM »
Whereas Ings and Watkins were unfortunately not.
Perhaps now Roger and Watkins could be a decent link up pairing but really with Diaby and Bailey I'm not sure if they'll be specific partnerships but can still go fir titles!

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5206 on: April 27, 2024, 11:59:17 AM »
Shaw and Withe went together like bacon and eggs.

Although you also had Morley and Cowans as well to compliment them and make the full english.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5207 on: April 27, 2024, 12:09:54 PM »
Tony Hateley was exceptional in the air but not much of an all-round player, apparently. Much like his son Mark, who made the absolute most of quite limited ability and went on to play for AC Milan, Monaco and Glasgow Rangers somehow.

Gerry Hitchens' departure to Inter Milan was more of a blow than Tony Hateley's departure to Chelsea - even if the former did fund the first roof for the Holte End.

Brian Green of this parish said Benteke was the best Villa forward he's ever seen; and he's seen the above pair plus the likes of Little, Gray and the 90s mob.  I'd take him at his word.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5208 on: April 27, 2024, 12:19:08 PM »
I suggest you look at Peter McParland, Tom 'Pongo' Waring and Eric Houghton (although he was a winger not an out and out striker.)

The best measurements are by season top scorers in my estimation

Pongo. Case closed.

Everyone knows of Pongo but I did say 100 years.



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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5209 on: April 27, 2024, 12:25:59 PM »
Tony Hateley was exceptional in the air but not much of an all-round player, apparently. Much like his son Mark, who made the absolute most of quite limited ability and went on to play for AC Milan, Monaco and Glasgow Rangers somehow.

Gerry Hitchens' departure to Inter Milan was more of a blow than Tony Hateley's departure to Chelsea - even if the former did fund the first roof for the Holte End.

Brian Green of this parish said Benteke was the best Villa forward he's ever seen; and he's seen the above pair plus the likes of Little, Gray and the 90s mob.  I'd take him at his word.
Thanks KG !
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Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5210 on: April 27, 2024, 12:29:33 PM »
I suggest you look at Peter McParland, Tom 'Pongo' Waring and Eric Houghton (although he was a winger not an out and out striker.)

The best measurements are by season top scorers in my estimation

Pongo. Case closed.

Everyone knows of Pongo but I did say 100 years.



Yes. I can read.

Can you count?
Well I made an error as thought Pongo was more than 100 years ago.
Where are you on Watkins and premier league era ?
The best or are you favouring another?

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5211 on: April 27, 2024, 12:30:15 PM »
Lacked consistency and durability, but for sheer talent, Dalian is up there with Little, Gray, Shaw, Withe, Yorke and Benteke. Watkins yet to join that club for me. He’s only been THAT good since Unai came in. I think he’ll get there though.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5212 on: April 27, 2024, 12:30:53 PM »
I do think as Watkins is of the moment people will be looking back when he finishes to how amazing he now is as I don't think he gets the recognition he deserves.

There's been current talk of comparisons to Toney and last season it was Wilson but Watkins has shown markedly improvement and higher levels than both of these

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5213 on: April 27, 2024, 12:31:02 PM »
To bring it full circle, I believe it was BG who was advocating us signing Ollie Watkins before he even went to Brentford.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5214 on: April 27, 2024, 12:34:21 PM »
Lacked consistency and durability, but for sheer talent, Dalian is up there with Little, Gray, Shaw, Withe, Yorke and Benteke. Watkins yet to join that club for me. He’s only been THAT good since Unai came in. I think he’ll get there though.
I saw Atkinson was never a top scorer so I can see there was a consistency issue but I have seen he scored one of the best ever Premier League goals , a Goal of the season.
Was Saunders keeping Atkinson out the team back then ? Because Saunders was the top scorer

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5215 on: April 27, 2024, 12:37:16 PM »
If we go just with PL era then the 3 for me are Yorke, Benteke and Ollie. On talent alone Dalian and Collymore should have been there as well.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5216 on: April 27, 2024, 12:37:18 PM »
Lacked consistency and durability, but for sheer talent, Dalian is up there with Little, Gray, Shaw, Withe, Yorke and Benteke. Watkins yet to join that club for me. He’s only been THAT good since Unai came in. I think he’ll get there though.
I saw Atkinson was never a top scorer so I can see there was a consistency issue but I have seen he scored one of the best ever Premier League goals , a Goal of the season.
Was Saunders keeping Atkinson out the team back then ? Because Saunders was the top scorer

No, they were a partnership. Saunders made the most of his ability, but Dalian had ability that Saunders could only dream of.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5217 on: April 27, 2024, 12:37:30 PM »
Lacked consistency and durability, but for sheer talent, Dalian is up there with Little, Gray, Shaw, Withe, Yorke and Benteke. Watkins yet to join that club for me. He’s only been THAT good since Unai came in. I think he’ll get there though.

Dalian could do things I haven't seen a Villa player do before or since.

Soon after arriving, Deano was impressed with him. Remember an interview where he said - paraphrasing "I'm quite good. But this fella should be playing for AC Milan."

Difficult guy though. In the summer of 1994 after the LC win he was apparently on to BFR, as he wanted parity with Alan Shearer's wages. His argument? "I've won a cup, Shearer hasn't."  BFR: "Shearer scored 31 goals last season."    Dalian:  "Pay me his wages and I'll score 30 goals next year."   

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5218 on: April 27, 2024, 12:38:31 PM »
Lacked consistency and durability, but for sheer talent, Dalian is up there with Little, Gray, Shaw, Withe, Yorke and Benteke. Watkins yet to join that club for me. He’s only been THAT good since Unai came in. I think he’ll get there though.

You could say the same about Collymore but neither had the dedication to make it to the very top.  If Dalian could have been arsed, he could have played for any club in the world.  I'd have Watkins (on this season's form) over either of them.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #5219 on: April 27, 2024, 12:38:41 PM »
Was Saunders keeping Atkinson out the team back then ? Because Saunders was the top scorer

If fit they both played.

 


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