Ollie Watkins

[Dave]

I would argue : Not only the best Premier League era striker but Watkins now have to be recognised as number one of the last 100 years . I don't have all the knowledge, but he's the best consistent Aston Villa goalscorer in last 100 years of our proud history. That's in all here of our lifetime?

What's the take of any former Villa striker who is ahead of Watkins ? because from my research he's going to be if not already the greatest ever in last 100 years.

My take is that you're about to be handed the knowledge that you're currently missing. Probably quite furiously.

[Footy-Vill]

Fun fact. Watkins scored more league goals in his first 2 seasons with us than Dean Saunders did in his first 2 with us.

You still, hate Deano don't you? I loved him personally, I had a great picture of him from 90 minutes on my wall of him standing arms up in front of the Holte End after scoring against Liverpool on his home debut

Where are you now on Watkins and Saunders ?

[Footy-Vill]

Also for those completely in the know from the last 60 or 70 years of watching Villa isn't he the the very best ?
Better goalscorer than Withe and Gray ?

Is only Tony Hately comparable?
17 goals then 20 then 21 goals in 3 seasons in 60s that's great goal scoring! And is Hately a better striker or Watkins ?

Johnny Dixon 26 goals and Gerry Hitchens 29 goals records must be future league targets. And that would cement Watkins as the best ever Aston Villa striker.

[Somniloquism]

Did your research show who has the most goals at villa in the last 100 years? Pretty simple thing to do. It would be a tough call to state the best for the last 50 years.

[Footy-Vill]

I'm going through season top scorers and I'm fascinated by this Tony Hately  he seemed very consistent.

[Somniloquism]

I suggest you look at Peter McParland, Tom 'Pongo' Waring and Eric Houghton (although he was a winger not an out and out striker.)

[Percy McCarthy]

Pongo. Case closed.

[Footy-Vill]

Did your research show who has the most goals at villa in the last 100 years? Pretty simple thing to do. It would be a tough call to state the best for the last 50 years.

Even though Agbonlahor is top premier league scorer I don't rank him in top 5 top strikers of Villa in last 100 years

I haven't included legends like Platt or Burrows as they were not strikers.
 Platt 19 goals ?!!! From midfield is amazing.
I would be looking to raise discussion on goal scoring midfielders and wingers like Burrows who was leading goal scorer and goal scoring legend Gary Shaw  in appropriate player threads as comparison and that can come elsewhere

This is really a discussion on recognising the greatness and witness the very live history of legend in the making and our goal scoring and contributing extraordinaire that is Ollie Watkins. He's doing historic things and I'm acknowledging that and bringing forth debate to see if it's worthy in the history of great strikers of Aston Villa .

[Footy-Vill]

I suggest you look at Peter McParland, Tom 'Pongo' Waring and Eric Houghton (although he was a winger not an out and out striker.)

The best measurements are by season top scorers in my estimation

Pongo. Case closed.

Everyone knows of Pongo but I did say 100 years.

Simply it's what others take on
Best premier league striker ?
Best striker in last 100 years?

Only Hately and Watkins are comparable.
Then likes of Gray, Withe, Yorke, Saunders, Benteke do not compete for me and I'm only familiar with Benteke.
I don't put McInally, Carew, Vassell or Abraham in the debate.

[KevinGage]

Billy Walker with just the 214 goals in 478 appearances was quite good.

[Somniloquism]

You do realise Pongo falls into the last 100 years?

[KevinGage]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Brentford missed Mbueno more this season when he was injured than they missed Toney when he was banned. If I was a club looking for an attacking player in the summer I'd be looking at Wissa or Mbueno before I'd be willing to fork over whatever stupid price they'll want for Toney.

Mbueno is a super player, but isn't Diaby our man in that role?

I'm not saying we should sign any of them. I'm saying if we were a club looking for an attacking player (the kind that are being linked with Toney) I'd be pricing Mbueno and Wissa first.

Indeed.

They'd fit the Emery mould quite well.

[Footy-Vill]

In that conversation I want to know how  people measure Watkins compared to past Premier League top scorers Benteke, Agbonlahor, Bent, Carew , Angel, Dublin, Yorke and Saunders.

And same with likes of Gray, Withe and Hately

That's all.
We be lucky to hear anyone here with tales of Pongo

[Footy-Vill]

Emery obviously realises his strengths and we are set out to maximise them. Having Diaby next to him gives defenders somebody else to worry about. It's potentially a fantastic partnership. Andy Gray was never a technical player but alongside Brian Little scored for fun because we played to his strengths. First time round Gray scored 54 goals in 113 appearances whilst Sir Brian got 40 during the same period. Together they were the best Villa partnership of my Villa days. In Watkins and Diaby were have the potential to have the third best - after Gray/Little and Withe/Shaw.

Totally.

This is interesting reading
Withe must have offered assists as well as goals as Shaw was a top scorer for a season or two.

[PeterWithesShin]

Shaw and Withe went together like bacon and eggs.