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Offline brontebilly

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4200 on: November 05, 2023, 09:14:57 PM »
Ollie works hard no doubt but he misses sitters weeks after week.

He missed a sitter against Luton which in the end didn't matter and another today.

In the end this will matter.

Every striker, even Haaland, misses sitters. Poor effort for the header aside, I thought Watkins touch was awful today. One of a number of players that were simply miles off it today.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4201 on: November 05, 2023, 09:31:23 PM »
As you mention, all the players were off it. Watkins gets it more each week as people still see our team as "striker is the scorer" when we have scored 26 goals this season, and Watkins has only 5* to his name. So surely being as the rest of the team have contributed a further 19 (not including OG's), why are they not getting the pelters for not scoring?

* Although officially he has had contributions to 10 this season, you could argue he has probably three or four more with being fouled for Penalties a few times and I think a pass for one that was given as an own goal.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4202 on: November 05, 2023, 09:35:28 PM »
Think he's going to go on another 6 or 7 game barren run again now

Hope not. I'd keep him in v Alkmaar as with the way they defended v pace in the home game he'll get 2-3 relatively simple chances so can get back on the scoresheet quickly.

With Duran on the naughty step seemingly wouldn't it be nice to have a CF in the squad we could be confident of starting instead of just watch Ollie fizzle out for a month and bemoan dropped points as a result of not scoring as happened in the run in last season.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4203 on: November 05, 2023, 09:39:10 PM »
Think he's going to go on another 6 or 7 game barren run again now

Hope not. I'd keep him in v Alkmaar as with the way they defended v pace in the home game he'll get 2-3 relatively simple chances so can get back on the scoresheet quickly.

With Duran on the naughty step seemingly wouldn't it be nice to have a CF in the squad we could be confident of starting instead of just watch Ollie fizzle out for a month and bemoan dropped points as a result of not scoring as happened in the run in last season.
It's why i was 100% against the sale of Archer. Still think that's a huge error of judgment.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4204 on: November 05, 2023, 09:43:18 PM »
Think he's going to go on another 6 or 7 game barren run again now

Hope not. I'd keep him in v Alkmaar as with the way they defended v pace in the home game he'll get 2-3 relatively simple chances so can get back on the scoresheet quickly.

With Duran on the naughty step seemingly wouldn't it be nice to have a CF in the squad we could be confident of starting instead of just watch Ollie fizzle out for a month and bemoan dropped points as a result of not scoring as happened in the run in last season.
It's why i was 100% against the sale of Archer. Still think that's a huge error of judgment.
Agree.Donít mention that the idea of Philogene coming on would have also potentially given Forest something different  to think about.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4205 on: November 05, 2023, 09:46:47 PM »
Think he's going to go on another 6 or 7 game barren run again now

Hope not. I'd keep him in v Alkmaar as with the way they defended v pace in the home game he'll get 2-3 relatively simple chances so can get back on the scoresheet quickly.

With Duran on the naughty step seemingly wouldn't it be nice to have a CF in the squad we could be confident of starting instead of just watch Ollie fizzle out for a month and bemoan dropped points as a result of not scoring as happened in the run in last season.
It's why i was 100% against the sale of Archer. Still think that's a huge error of judgment.
Agree.Donít mention that the idea of Philogene coming on would have also potentially given Forest something different  to think about.
Yep it's a shame they aren't here anymore,

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4206 on: November 05, 2023, 11:04:38 PM »
Think he's going to go on another 6 or 7 game barren run again now

Hope not. I'd keep him in v Alkmaar as with the way they defended v pace in the home game he'll get 2-3 relatively simple chances so can get back on the scoresheet quickly.

With Duran on the naughty step seemingly wouldn't it be nice to have a CF in the squad we could be confident of starting instead of just watch Ollie fizzle out for a month and bemoan dropped points as a result of not scoring as happened in the run in last season.
It's why i was 100% against the sale of Archer. Still think that's a huge error of judgment.

Archer is gone. Maybe he'll return one day, maybe not. We are actually two strikers down on where we were 12 months ago given Ings and Archer were on the bench when we beat Man. United. Ings then came in and scored twice at Brighton which was a very big win.

With Duran not involved the only two options really are put Tielemans on and hope we can thread a ball quickly from the centre or Bailey gets some shots away. Traore clearly not trusted today to do anything. It was the same at Wolves.

We'll have a few more of these games as the season goes on and we simply need more options on the bench for days like this.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4207 on: November 06, 2023, 11:42:10 AM »
The odd cameo wasn't going to help Archer/JPB's development. Archer's a great finisher but his overall game needs time and coming up against Premier League defenders every week will be great for him imo and he'll have a clear idea of what he has to work on.

I agree that we need a Watkins alternative/partner though. Bringing Duran on against Palace completely turned the game. We could have done with that sort of option yesterday.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4208 on: November 06, 2023, 05:30:55 PM »
Shouldíve scored yesterday but didnít really get much service. The service into him from good positions, especially from Digne was very poor. Itís ok when youíre winning easily to miss a few but I think if heíd knocked that one in weíd have got something. Itís those chances in tight games that need to go in.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4209 on: November 06, 2023, 09:14:32 PM »
We didn't get the ball into the box anywhere near enough yesterday.  Cash kept cutting back and went backwards far too often.  Just one of those games and I hope we don't have too many of them this season.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4210 on: November 06, 2023, 09:19:16 PM »
wasnít in the game first half because of poor service and I felt for him
Unfortunately when he was handed one on a plate in the second half he blew it

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4211 on: November 06, 2023, 09:32:26 PM »
I think he can be excused & criticised equally for yesterdays performance.

As mentioned previously, the service was just not there, other than once.

And he failed miserably on that chance.

It was a relatively simple chance too & could have changed the game.

But at the same time, if the service was better, he could have had more opportunities to put the ball in the net.

Swings & roundabouts...

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4212 on: November 06, 2023, 10:19:23 PM »
I can still see the 20 goals he wishes for this season.
Fully supporting him for this.

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4213 on: November 07, 2023, 02:46:18 PM »
England Mens Squad named on Thursday hopeful for Watkins to be included and likely to be given some game time

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Re: Ollie Watkins
« Reply #4214 on: November 07, 2023, 03:33:20 PM »
Heís our No 9 heíll score some more goals heíll miss some more goals but Iíll eat my souíwester if he scores 20 league goals this season

 


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