Ollie Watkins

[FatSam]

I thought it was a good save by the keeper.

Yeah me too.

Agreed

[PaulWinch again]

The save from Ollie’s header was excellent. Lovely to see Ollie in the goals.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Ollie should have had a definite pen following pickford’s horrendous challenge yesterday who should have been sent off. Dyche has form against us sending players out to challenge our forwards in that manner. Ollie was fortunate, Wesley was not.

[Risso]

I thought it was a good save and then just a coming together after the ball was gone.

[astonvilla82]

I thought it was a good save and then just a coming together after the ball was gone.

looking like if Pickford is making sure he's taking Watkins out no matter what, that's a foul if not in the penalty by any other players

[ChicagoLion]

I thought it was a good save and then just a coming together after the ball was gone.

It hits Pickford so leg after contact.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

As I understand the laws of the game, there is no exemption or special treatment of GKs and the laws now are that it is a foul and almost always a booking if a player makes an excessively forceful, out of control tackle on an opponent.

Previously players could claim a touch on the ball, though that no longer counts, i.e., if you touch the ball first and then wipe out an opponent, that is a foul and, probably, a booking.

Obviously most managers and pundits are either ignorant of the change or talk nonsense as it suits their bias.

So that challenge by Pickford should have been a penalty and, probably, a red card. We might not be happy if something like that is given against us, but that is what should happen. UTV

[Lastfootstamper]

Excessively forceful and out of control?

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Interpretation of law 12 (just the relevant section below). The referee has to decide whether a challenge is careless, reckless or reflects excessive force.

Pickford's challenge is either reckless or excessive in my view. What the laws says:

Careless, reckless, using excessive force
“Careless” means that the player has shown a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or that he acted without precaution.
• No further disciplinary sanction is needed if a foul is judged to be careless

“Reckless” means that the player has acted with complete disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, his opponent.
• A player who plays in a reckless manner must be cautioned

“Using excessive force” means that the player has far exceeded the necessary use of force and is in danger of injuring his opponent.
• A player who uses excessive force must be sent off

[AV82EC]

I haven’t analysed it to any great extent but the Pickford one was a pen for me whereas I thought the McGinn one wasn’t! Hey ho we’re back down the road with 3 points I can’t be arsed with worrying about it.

[Drummond]

So now that he's on fire under a new manager.... Are people still of the view we need to upgrade?

[Russ aka Big Nose]

I haven’t analysed it to any great extent but the Pickford one was a pen for me whereas I thought the McGinn one wasn’t! Hey ho we’re back down the road with 3 points I can’t be arsed with worrying about it.

Both for me. The pen on McGinn looks soft, but there is contact, knee on knee, just before the Blue Scouse toes the ball away. UTV

[AV82EC]

So now that he's on fire under a new manager.... Are people still of the view we need to upgrade?

Maybe. Five in five doesn’t mean much if it’s followed up by only 2 or 3 more up to seasons end. If he can as FV is suggesting get up to mid teens then I’m not so sure he needs replacing and we have Duran and Archer evolving as back ups. What we need in an attacking sense is actually an upgrade for Bailey/Traore and a decision on Coutinho/Buendia for next year and if they “fit” with where Emery wants to go.

[Somniloquism]

I haven’t analysed it to any great extent but the Pickford one was a pen for me whereas I thought the McGinn one wasn’t! Hey ho we’re back down the road with 3 points I can’t be arsed with worrying about it.

Both for me. The pen on McGinn looks soft, but there is contact, knee on knee, just before the Blue Scouse toes the ball away. UTV

He didn’t toe the ball away. MOTD showed that there wasn’t any contact on the ball at all from a 3rd angle. 

[PeterWithesShin]

They were against us so both were nailed on pens.