Ollie Watkins

[PaulTheVillan]

Let’s hope a new manager can get a tune out of Ollie

[paul_e]

Watkins is most definatley not shit, that's just angry nonsense. Out of form and lacking in confidence though.

He is doing almost everything wrong - constantly offside, can't tame a ball played at him, poor passing. The big problem is that he isn't taken out of the firing line and we as a team are suffering.

But that's on the manager not on him. As I said last night what Gerrard is doing with him, McGinn and Bailey has caused all 3 to spiral from being a bit out of form to having a genuine crisis of confidence so now they're all trying to win games on their own to prove they've "got it" still.

Him being constantly offside, missing big chances and having the ball control of a broken jockstrap is the managers fault?  I'm no fan of Gerrard, but sometimes players missing easy chances need to have to hold their hands up.  Whatever the tactics and coaching, he should be able to deliver his fundamental skills.

Your on one today aren't you. Anyone with basic reading comprehension could understand I was commenting on the bold bit.

Yeah I am, because I'm angry and you're defending the indefensible.

And less of the reading comprehension and patronising stuff eh Paul, because from where I'm sitting it's you posting rubbish this morning

Please go back and read the bold bit again, he's out of form and his confidence is shot but it's not him that plays himself for 90 minutes every game. I'm saying that he should be dropped and that Gerrard is in the wrong for not doing it, why would I do that if I didn't think he was playing badly?

How did you take that to be me defending him for any of the things you listed? You might think I'm being patronising but I'm honestly not, I just haven't got a fucking clue where you got the idea that I was defending his first touch/offside awareness/finishing from, I never mentioned any of the things you accused me of defending him over.

[chrisw1]

Well watkins was our top scorer and got into double figures so he clearly wasn't shit last season, even if he wasn't as good as the year before.

It's comments like this that lead me to question which posters go to games.  Because with my own eyes I witnessed him miss loads of chances that he should have burried.  It's from that that I form my judgement that he was off form last season too.

[paul_e]

Well watkins was our top scorer and got into double figures so he clearly wasn't shit last season, even if he wasn't as good as the year before.

It's comments like this that lead me to question which posters go to games.  Because with my own eyes I witnessed him miss loads of chances that he should have burried.  It's from that that I form my judgement that he was off form last season too.

Ah, the 'better fan than yow' defence, got it, the last refuge of the bullshitter.

Of course, it's possible for a striker to miss some chances as well as taking other and just have been ok for a season, there are options between brilliant and shit.

[chrisw1]

He was incredibly frustrating to watch last season - in my view well off form.  It's carried through to this season.  That's the point I was making.

[paul_e]

He was incredibly frustrating to watch last season - in my view well off form.  It's carried through to this season.  That's the point I was making.

Ah yes, all your posts in the last hour or so on this and other threads haven't bene calling him shit for the last 15months, they've just been saying it was frustrating that he wasn't taking more of his chances, I'd missed that nuance obviously.

[pauliewalnuts]

Anyone got a gun?

Or a noose?

[PaulTheVillan]

Anyone got a gun?

Or a noose?

I could get my hands on a Goose

[Drummond]

Anyone got a gun?

Or a noose?

I could get my hands on a Goose

Not sure I'd fancy getting my hands on a nun...

[PaulTheVillan]

Anyone got a gun?

Or a noose?

I could get my hands on a Goose

Not sure I'd fancy getting my hands on a nun...

They score more than Watkins

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

Interesting stat came up on the box during last night's game.
Under our manager Ollie is the top scorer with 10, Ramsey next with 6 and Ings with 5.
I wonder where our manager would be without Ollie's 10 goals in what has generally been a poorly run team ...on second thoughts knowing our ceo probably still at the Villa.

[manic-road]

Ollie somehow managed to put in a worse display than his last match.

[Legion]

Needs dropping to the bench.

[clash city rocker]

Anyone got a gun?

Or a noose?

I could get my hands on a Goose

Not sure I'd fancy getting my hands on a nun...

They score more than Watkins

Like that

[Villan82]

A competent manager will get him firing again.