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Offline chrisw1

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1710 on: April 03, 2022, 09:29:08 PM »
It was a great pen.  The misses were awful.  Either he’s just not good enough or his head isn’t right. Either way I don’t think we’ll see the best of him at Villa now, it’s probably time for a change for both sides sakes.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1711 on: April 03, 2022, 09:34:39 PM »
It was a great pen.  The misses were awful.  Either he’s just not good enough or his head isn’t right. Either way I don’t think we’ll see the best of him at Villa now, it’s probably time for a change for both sides sakes.

He's only been hit and miss for 6 or so months and still got back in the England squad. It's not like he's scored 4 goals in 3 seasons.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1712 on: April 03, 2022, 09:38:22 PM »
It was always said that Tammy was not a top 6 premiership striker, Olly is probably a lower end /top championship player - his first touch (although decent yesterday) is normally very poor, his second touch is nothing to shout about and he flaps in front of goal, probably a confidence player mind.  Sorry but not good enough for our ambitions.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1713 on: April 03, 2022, 10:23:09 PM »
I don't think we'll sell him this summer unless we get a mental offer (£50 million +) which Gerrard could then reinvest in a player closer to his first choice.

If anyone departs it will be Ings - if we can find a team willing to cough up the majority of his £120k per week wage.  But barring a huge upturn in form between now and the end of the season, Ollie prob hasn't done enough to be a guaranteed starter next year.  Not in his favoured position anyroad.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1714 on: April 03, 2022, 11:03:43 PM »
I'd keep Ings over Watkins.

He's a much better player.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1715 on: April 03, 2022, 11:06:56 PM »
I'd keep Ings over Watkins.

He's a much better player.

Yes.

Offline rougegorge

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1716 on: April 03, 2022, 11:07:13 PM »
I'd be raging if that had been given against us. Watkins drives into the keeper, Sa isn't making any move towards Ollie, his eyes are on the ball and he's waiting to collect it. Think that's what Sa was mouthing to him at the end of the game.
I was surprised too. Not one fan around me was shouting for a penalty,  although admittedly a few were out of it. If he hadn't have given the penalty, I don't think VAR would have overturned the decision.

Offline bilsim

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1717 on: April 04, 2022, 06:27:26 AM »

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1718 on: April 04, 2022, 07:07:20 AM »
I thought he'd score one on one with the keeper and as he didn't look confident went waiting for the penalty, he would miss that.
Both were wrong!

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1719 on: April 04, 2022, 09:04:19 AM »
It's when we play Watkins against a team playing three at the back, or packing their defence, where he looks ineffectual. On Saturday, he needed to hold the ball better and bring in the midfielders: he did neither, which is why we looked so toothless when in possession. The Wolves defenders generally had a walk in the park.
And, they were quicker and more incisive when in possession whereas we looked ponderous.
I do think Watkins is still a player for us but we need to know when to play him and when to play an alternative that can play better as a lone / hold-up striker.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1720 on: April 04, 2022, 09:06:39 AM »
I'd keep Ings over Watkins.

He's a much better player.

Yes.

Yes again.

I was wondering if Ings would have only scored one goal from the three chances Ollie had. I reckon yes.  However, I also think that consistency in pressing with two tougher, game controlling defensive midfielders gets us a better Ollie, McGinn, Ramsey. Ollie by his own admission said he was lucky to get picked for England.

Offline mrfuse

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1721 on: April 04, 2022, 09:48:22 AM »
I'd keep Ings over Watkins.

He's a much better player.

Yes.

Yes again.

I've seen nothing from Ings that suggests that he is in a Villa shirt.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1722 on: April 04, 2022, 09:58:21 AM »
I think with Ings at Southampton, he was the main man and played week in, week out and had the likes of JWP creating chances. He was never going to be in that position at Villa with Watkins as our main striker. He's not a bad player, it was just a daft signing made in the heat of the moment when we sold Grealish. That money would have been better spent increasing the bids for the aforementioned JWP or ESR.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1723 on: April 04, 2022, 10:00:08 AM »
I think with Ings at Southampton, he was the main man and played week in, week out and had the likes of JWP creating chances. He was never going to be in that position at Villa with Watkins as our main striker. He's not a bad player, it was just a daft signing made in the heat of the moment when we sold Grealish. That money would have been better spent increasing the bids for the aforementioned JWP or ESR.
exactly it was not the signing we needed and still isn’t.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1724 on: April 04, 2022, 10:41:00 AM »
I'd keep Ings over Watkins.

He's a much better player.

Yes.

A yes from me as well

 


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