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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1395 on: October 01, 2021, 04:20:54 PM »
Sancho's inclusion is the real head scratcher.


I have never seen anything of him to think he is all that .  But they loved him in Germany

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1396 on: October 01, 2021, 04:47:39 PM »
Sancho's inclusion is the real head scratcher.
I have never seen anything of him to think he is all that .  But they loved him in Germany

The trouble is he barely played for England when in form for Dortmund, was then selected for some weird reason for the Euros squad but only got a match time as "reward" for signing for Manure before being dropped in by the twonk in the most pressure situation you could have in the final. Since then he has been anonymous at Manure, probably because it is now the Ronnie show.

If he was performing for Manure, I might have said he was this generations Barnes. But he isn't.

I see he dropped the inform Bellingham and the-slightly-better-then-Sancho Greenwood for development reasons? I suppose not burning them out when younger with loads of matches might be a good thing. However if they are good enough to play at the top level for their clubs, surely they are for their country as well.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1397 on: October 01, 2021, 04:49:17 PM »
Sancho's inclusion is the real head scratcher.

Is it though? He plays for Man U. He wouldn’t be in the squad if he played for Brighton.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1398 on: October 01, 2021, 05:28:22 PM »
Sancho's inclusion is the real head scratcher.

Is it though? He plays for Man U. He wouldn’t be in the squad if he played for Brighton.

Southgate basically said that Sancho was lucky to be in based on his form. So yes, he wouldn't do it for anyone else I wouldn't have thought.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1399 on: October 02, 2021, 06:18:03 PM »
Sancho was certainly lucky as he's an average player whose nowhere near as good as Jude Bellingham

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1400 on: October 02, 2021, 06:47:19 PM »
Sancho and Townsend seem better signings than Sancho at the moment.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1401 on: October 02, 2021, 06:48:20 PM »
Sancho and Townsend seem better signings than Sancho at the moment.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1402 on: October 02, 2021, 06:51:46 PM »
Sancho and Townsend seem better signings than Sancho at the moment.

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Makes perfect sense to me. If you sign Sancho and somebody else, then you don't have to play Sancho.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1403 on: October 02, 2021, 07:27:23 PM »
I meant Gray :) - oops.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1404 on: October 02, 2021, 07:35:49 PM »
Sancho's inclusion is the real head scratcher.
I have never seen anything of him to think he is all that .  But they loved him in Germany

The trouble is he barely played for England when in form for Dortmund, was then selected for some weird reason for the Euros squad but only got a match time as "reward" for signing for Manure before being dropped in by the twonk in the most pressure situation you could have in the final. Since then he has been anonymous at Manure, probably because it is now the Ronnie show.

If he was performing for Manure, I might have said he was this generations Barnes. But he isn't.

I see he dropped the inform Bellingham and the-slightly-better-then-Sancho Greenwood for development reasons? I suppose not burning them out when younger with loads of matches might be a good thing. However if they are good enough to play at the top level for their clubs, surely they are for their country as well.

Something amiss with Greenwood off the field I think. He dropped out of the Euros squad with no real reason given. Has dodged a few squads since. Talented player with the ball but lazy as sin without it.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1405 on: October 02, 2021, 09:59:03 PM »
And a greedy bastard to boot.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1406 on: October 05, 2021, 09:08:21 PM »
There's been discussion in the recent past of what our transfer policy would look like in the future. Would we use creative accountancy to endlessly empty our owners' pockets, or would we be more self-sustaining? With the passage of time since Grealish's departure, I now think we're looking at 'doing a Leicester', regularly selling one of our big assets at their peak to fund squad building. Long and short of it, I think we bought Ings when that opportunity presented itself to compliment and help develop Archer for next season because Watkins is the next one out the door for big bucks.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1407 on: October 05, 2021, 09:11:26 PM »
I think that's conspirobollocks, to be honest. We needed another forward, we signed another forward. Also, at the time we signed Ings, nobody except Legion expected Archer to have played so often and already scored four goals.

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1408 on: October 05, 2021, 09:16:26 PM »
"Conspirobollocks" suggests mistakenly that I know somebody who agrees with me!

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Re: Ollie Watkins (Aston Villa & England)
« Reply #1409 on: October 05, 2021, 09:17:21 PM »
Something amiss with Greenwood off the field I think. He dropped out of the Euros squad with no real reason given. Has dodged a few squads since. Talented player with the ball but lazy as sin without it.

Quite possibly, reading between the lines on the Yanited forums last season I got a 'he may be out and about too much and needs to knuckle down a bit' vibe.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2021, 09:27:56 PM by Brazilian Villain »

 


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