Aston Villa v Arsenal Post Match Thread

[AsTallAsLions]

People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.

But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.

Hmmmm.

Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?

I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.

One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.

Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.

This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.

Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.

[AsTallAsLions]

One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.

Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.

That's not 'policing' though is it? No-one has been stopped from posting or banned because they don't have confidence in the manager.

That's a poster (mod or otherwise) posting their opinion on what other posters have said.

How is calling for people to apologise an opinion?

[in exile]

Just shrug it off, it's not worth it and it gets boring pretty quick.

[Sexual Ealing]

Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.

[Clampy]

I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.

Like I said a few days back, it's about taking the rough with the smooth. If a poster is constantly going to find the down side  to everything and then can't take a few moments to make a positive comment when we have some success, then what's the point? Why partake in a hobby that makes you constantly miserable?

[The Edge]

I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.

Like I said a few days back, it's about taking the rough with the smooth. If a poster is constantly going to find the down side  to everything and then can't take a few moments to make a positive comment when we have some success, then what's the point? Why partake in a hobby that makes you constantly miserable?

I'll ask my brother he's a bluenose

[The Edge]

People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.

But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.

Hmmmm.

Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?

I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.

One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.

Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.

This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.

Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.

Hairy muff. UTV

[Drummond]

People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.

But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.

Hmmmm.

Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?

I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.

One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.

Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.

This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.

Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.

Those last three words say a lot.

[Axl Rose]

People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.

But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.

Hmmmm.

Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?

I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.

One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.

Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.

This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.

Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.

Well said, mate.

I've never understood why the whole 'coward' thing has had some people up in arms. As for apologising, I'm curious to whom I should be apologising to?

Anyway, up the Villa.

[Ads]

Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.

They're not moaning twats, they're "realists".

[Sexual Ealing]

Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.

They're not moaning twats, they're "realists".

God bless them. It's always helpful, when you find yourself in a cess pit, to have someone pointing out the smell.

[paul_e]

Who's demanded an apology for people being neagtive? I saw a post suggesting people apologise for calling the manager and squad cowards but that's not the same thing.

I'm pretty positive about where we are, I thought we'd survive when the lockdown started, I thought we had the squad to get the points once the games restarted and I think most of the team are young players who will improve as a result of this season. All of this is all over this section of the forum. However I posted on here a lot less than normalfor a week or 2 because anything about liking a player or seeing any silver lining attractive a handful of posters who insisted everything was shit. Some of it was so over the top that I just couldn't be bothered with it. If those people have to put up a with a week or 2 of 'bantz' then it's not like they didn't bring it on themselves.

[dave.woodhall]

Can we bring a halt to this now, please?

[paul_e]

Well said, mate.

I've never understood why the whole 'coward' thing has had some people up in arms. As for apologising, I'm curious to whom I should be apologising to?

Anyway, up the Villa.

Coward is, in my opinion, one of the very worst insult you can throw at someone and some people are far too eager to use it. I agree that there's no one to apologise to in this case but I do think people need to consider what they say a little more. AEG at Everton is a good example, some people saw that as him not wanting to get clattered by the keeper, I didn't, I saw it as someone struggling to decide what to do and ending up over-thinking it. Call it a bad miss, slag him off for it but reading more into it to question his character is uncalled for in my opinion and that's why some fans will bring that back up.

It's like the guy on here who claimed Benteke was shit after about 3 games and then refused to admit he was wrong after he became our best player for 3 seasons in a row. People remember strong opinions and when they're proven wrong they'll mention it.

[paul_e]

Can we bring a halt to this now, please?

Shit, sorry, didn't spot this, I hope that last post isn't considered carrying it on.