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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on July 21, 2020, 10:14:31 PM
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7 points out of 9.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
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Amazing what you can do when you only concede 1 goal in 3 games.
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It's in our own hands thats all we could hope for, come on you lions
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Brilliant. Absolutely great all over the pitch. Typical we beat a Top 6 team when they've dropped out of the Top 6! First win against them at Villa Park since that game in '98.
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didnt think the crowd got behind the team but fuck me ...we won
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Can I come out from behind the sofa now?
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Bloody hell Kylie's just knocked on the front door
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Its in our hands now, really is, an unbelievable turn of events with regards to the teams around us has brought us here, I can't see any way Arsenal will not want to wallop Watford, Arteta will be gone, Cup Final or not, we are the team in the ascent, a win vs West Ham will see us in the Premiership next season, possibly even a draw, its up to us now.
Well done lads, every player played there part tonight, we just beat Arsenal ffs.
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I haven't watched us play since that Chelsea game.
I won't be watching on Sunday.
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Some tremendous performances out there, Jack was absolutely immense.
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Fuck it. MOM = Trezeguet
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Absolutely brilliant. So proud of them. One of our best performances this season, considering the pressure.
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Out. Stan. Ding.
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I 100% thought we were gone after the Man Utd game, 7 points adrift with 4 games left. Fucking unreal effort and bollocks to turn it around. 1 more massive push required.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
I spent the whole of the game feeling physically sick.
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Not the winner-takes-all prediction I made many months ago vs West Ham United but pretty close and it is now (almost) all in our hands. Potentially our very own Great Escape.
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OMFG. Kept out of the match thread, couldn't face it. Wore all my lucky (?) jewellery, glad to no longer be wearing any of it.
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Football, bloody hell.
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Kind of stumbled to it but that is our brst back 4.
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Superb performance and commitment. A real team effort and only winning 1-0 flattered them.
Only disappointment for goal difference wise is we really should've scored more. When I saw Guilbert celebrate getting a goal kick I thought something is happening here.
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Bloody hell Kylie's just knocked on the front door
Love it mate...Give her a good seeing to for us all!
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Wow so proud of the team tonight - its in our hands. We can do this.
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Jacks going.
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Wonderful.
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Sick to my stomach since six-o-clock, I can't believe we won.
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Not the winner-takes-all prediction I made many months ago vs West Ham United but pretty close and it is now (almost) all in our hands. Potentially our very own Great Escape.
Absolutely correct, we just have to get right into this and believe we can do it, after Arsenal, its possible, worth remembering the incredible amount of money coming our way if we stay up, the players we will keep, what can you say.
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Great stuff
UP THE VILLA
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Konsa, Mings, Dougie, Jack, SJM and Conor were immense.
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Fair play Villa.
Thouroughly deserved
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles. 5 out of the last 5 results predicted correctly. Please use the message system for instructions on where to direct all cheques, postal orders and bank transfers. thank yew...
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I’m just so happy. At last!
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Bloody hell Kylie's just knocked on the front door
Love it mate...Give her a good seeing to for us all!
Sadly in all the excitement he was mistaken. It was actually (Jeremy) Kyle at the door.
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My Fitbit nearly broke during that. To be sat on a seat with a heart beat reading of 125 is bonkers
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I love those boys.
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Guilbert, Konsa, Luiz, Grealish and Trez, take your pick for man of the match. When half your team play that well and the other half put in solid 7/10 performances you win much more often. This kind of performance is why I see a lot of potential in this squad.
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If you thought that tonight was pressure packed wait until Saturday night, get the beer in ffs.
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Sod coronavirus, watching Villa just took 20 years off thousands of middle aged blokes.
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Probably most emotional I've been since beating Man. United all those years ago.
The premier league is actually fun if you can beat a decent team once in a while. We finally showed the resilience and game management that has been lacking all season in these type of games.
Still lots of work to do, final day games never go to script after all.
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MMMMM Just saw the interview with Jack, I wished he hadn't answered that question.
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What a fucking win. Felt we deserved it. Thought it felt like hours in the second half, but they only had that one real chance. After all the VAR decisions, late goals and times we have had the ball hit someone on the shin and bounce in, fuck it. We deserved that to bounce out. We looked a bit frightened at the start but grew in confidence after the first drinks break.
Well done you Villa boys.
Now, that's the semi-final won, just the final to go.
Gonna be a nervy few nights.
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Incredible result and performance tonight, still fighting like Lions.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
I spent the whole of the game feeling physically sick.
My back aches. Fuck knows what that's all about.
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MMMMM Just saw the interview with Jack, I wished he hadn't answered that question.
Ok ,what did he answer?
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Smith made a number of tweaks and changes to our formation and tactics today as well. Something people have said he wasn't capable of. Which is nice.
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Sod coronavirus, watching Villa just took 20 years off thousands of middle aged blokes.
😂.
Absolutely right. I haven’t felt so sick as I have for the last 4 and half hours.
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When they hit the post and Reina fumbled, I aged 10 years.
Mission impossible is fucking on.
Well done boys, and deserved too.
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MMMMM Just saw the interview with Jack, I wished he hadn't answered that question.
Tbh he is gone whether we win lose or draw however if his last act is adding a second in a win a Sunday I will be happy.
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MMMMM Just saw the interview with Jack, I wished he hadn't answered that question.
Ok ,what did he answer?
Was asked if that was his last game in a villa shirt at villa park..
he said, he's honestly not sure and he only has one goal at the moment and that's to keep the club up.
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Sod coronavirus, watching Villa just took 20 years off thousands of middle aged blokes.
Save a thought for us old 'uns, we 'aint got twenty years!
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I really enjoyed that. He lied.
Fucking brilliant lads, now finish the job on Sunday
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Great team performance.
We were down. But have managed to claw our way back in contention.
Wot Jack really said is if we stay up I’m staying.
And Davis will come good and score goals for fun next season.
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Have to hold my hands up. Davis effort aside, that was a brilliant, brilliant team performance.
Hats off to the defence for the most unlikely of shut-outs tonight. Arsenal had 67% possession but less shots than us - says a huge amount.
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It was a terrific effort.
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That’s the kind of performance that makes them fit to wear the shirts. Fantastic effort all round although I nearly passed out when Reina fumbled the ball off the post. One more game to go. UT f’n V!!!!
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One more just one more. And hope the other 2 teams fuck up royally. Just a thought, and don’t want to jinx anything but ......fuck it I wont jinx things
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If we showed this much bottle and resilience and application all season we'd be nowhere near the bottom 3. It's really all Sheff Utd have done and built off it. We've tossed away so many points from exactly the same siutation as tonight. We should really be talking tonight about doing the double over Arsenal if you think about it. Delighted that we have it all in our own hands now. Have to finish this off.
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For once in what feels the last 20 years, Arsenal have done us a favour. I hope they follow it up with a second on Sunday and score a couple of early ones to take the pressure off. And at Everton as well. I don’t want it going into the last 10 minutes with one goal at any of the matches being decisive.
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Didn’t think we had a snowballs chance in hell, but well done to every single one of em, even Dean!
Fought like lions, and now we’re in the driving seat, come Sunday.
Couple of points... wish Targett would press the crosses a little tighter and am I right in thinking that is the FIRST game this season where both Grealish and McGinn have both been on song?
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I really didn’t think we’d be in this position and thought Dean Smith was well out of his depth, but he got everything spot on tonight.
Great team performance and lovely goal by Trez.
Jack was much better tonight but after that interview it’s clear he’s off.
Well done tonight lads, let’s hope we get the result we need on Sunday and kick on next season.
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He said you, my son will never die, cos you’re from the Holte end that’s in the sky
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Great performance.Don't think I can do that again , especially when Sky seem to pull up stats about us leaking goals during the last ten minutes, conceding from set pieces , not beating Arsenal since God was a boy. It's almost like they are going through a voodoo ritual , to keep these spells over the Villa.
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My 9 year old daughter erupted in floods of tears at the final whistle such was the relief from the intensity and pressure of the game. I think I may have got some dust in my eye too !
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My 9 year old daughter erupted in floods of tears at the final whistle such was the relief from the intensity and pressure of the game. I think I may have got some dust in my eye too !
I wasn't far behind either of you.
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Guilbert was immense
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Davis will come good and score goals for fun next season.
He needs to put away his chances now. He's had excellent opportunities lately and fluffed all of them.
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
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The first home win against Everton on that Friday night was the best atmosphere I've heard on the Holte in two decades. It would have been absolutely eclipsed tonight.
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Its frustrating with smith, he showed more tactical knowhow tonight than he has all season, even wasted time with a sub too.
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Brilliant. So happy with that performance. Please just keep it up.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12033581/trezeguet-gives-villa-crucial-win
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I didn't watch it. I couldn't face it, no chance.
So, so, so fucking relieved.
COME ON YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING FUCKERS!
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Its frustrating with smith, he showed more tactical knowhow tonight than he has all season, even wasted time with a sub too.
We said the same, the game management was just right. We’ve had it done to us more than enough times.
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Thought my heart was going to conk out when they hit the post. Great performance, been critical of jack since lockdown but immense tonight. Hourihane, Trez, Luiz, Konsa great and Guilbert was brilliant, fist pump when winning a goal kick with a few minutes left, loved it!! Let’s not blow it at West Ham now
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Davis will come good and score goals for fun next season.
He needs to put away his chances now. He's had excellent opportunities lately and fluffed all of them.
Tonight one is the sort of chance that a striker who's scored a few recently takes with ease but someone struggling for goals overthinks it. He needs to work at his finishing but he offered much more of a threat than Samatta in my opinion, making a few really good runs to either get the chance or create space elsewhere.
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
hear hear!
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Most unusual sight of the night, (apart from Aston Villa 1 Arsenal 0).
A player tucking his shirt in his shorts...Arsenal fullback.
Respect.
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My 9 year old daughter erupted in floods of tears at the final whistle such was the relief from the intensity and pressure of the game. I think I may have got some dust in my eye too !
My lads only 3 so has no idea but I long for the day when he is this invested. You know you’re in for the long haul when your emotions with the Villa display themselves like that
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Phew, what a result. More of this on Sunday, please.
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
ha, as always its what we do, We could have easily put in a performance that even a half-assed Arsenal could have dealt with.
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I refuse to relax until we're definitely staying up!
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Right Villa win the game Sunday. Arsenal react please and batter Watford.
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Davis has the strength to be a very good centre forward but he badly needs coaching. Credit to their goalie who's positioning was perfect leaving no angle Davis should have hit through him. Didn't watch the last ten minutes, at my age that much anxiety is a definate no no.
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BBC Sport saying that's the 1st time since we played the Albion in January 2016 that our opponents haven't had a shot on target in a game
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
ha, as always its what we do, We could have easily put in a performance that even a half-assed Arsenal could have dealt with.
I don't think there was anything half-arsed about them, we were the better team and made it really tough for them to find any space.
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Probably stupid, but I realised we won tonight when Guilbert gave a clenched fist after winning a goal kick. That's when I thought, we've got this. One last push Villa Boys!!
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
ha, as always its what we do, We could have easily put in a performance that even a half-assed Arsenal could have dealt with.
I don't think there was anything half-arsed about them, we were the better team and made it really tough for them to find any space.
Come on, they were pisspoor. Having said that, it had no bearing on how well we played. The best team by miles.
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Brilliant result, and performance. Probably the most nervous I've been watching a match on TV since the Fulham play-off final.
Before the Liverpool game, with 6 games to go, I said the best we can probably hope for is to go to West Ham knowing a win would keep us up. Three games ago that didn't look likely at all - but knowing it's in our hands is massive.
Play like we did tonight, and we'll be fine.
Surely there'll be some sort of backlash from Arsenal against Watford - they can't play like that two matches on the bounce before a cup final.... can they?
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Amazing what you can do when you only concede 1 goal in 3 games.
Tighten up at the back, innit.
No too popular on here post CovID-19 early doors.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
I have felt crap all day. My nerves are shredded. One more battle to go.
I spent the whole of the game feeling physically sick.
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I was outside pacing up and down last 5 minutes, didn't dare come in.
But........I brought my lucky blue jumper out of retirement , not worn it since the 10 game streak and the play offs. I retired it then but needs must......it's having another bloody airing on Sunday
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Fucking hell! We are still in it!
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles.
Well they can bloody snap out of it now for Sunday.
ha, as always its what we do, We could have easily put in a performance that even a half-assed Arsenal could have dealt with.
I don't think there was anything half-arsed about them, we were the better team and made it really tough for them to find any space.
Dunno. thought we played superb but they have 1 eye on 10 days time.
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I was outside pacing up and down last 5 minutes, didn't dare come in.
But........I brought my lucky blue jumper out of retirement , not worn it since the 10 game streak and the play offs. I retired it then but needs must......it's having another bloody airing on Sunday
Ha. Just put the recycling out and remembered I hadn’t separated a toothpaste box, so went out to the bins and retrieved it thinking that if I didn’t we would lose on Sunday!
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I do not normally watch the studio blah after the game, Ian wright who I have never particulaly liked, after that goal. was respectful and said that the guy interviewing Jack should not have asked that question at this time.
Sherwood, I think is trying to be Jacks agent, saying if some Arsenal (forgot his name) is worth 70 million Jack is worth 170 million and that what ever happens Jack will be playig in the premiership next season.
As for the game 10/10 for everyone.
closed them down,scored a goal and even made a late substitotion.
Davis needs to score a goal
At the moment he sems cursed never to score.
We need to consider opening a sack cloth Topic if we get a result against WHU were all of us (me included) can pay penance for all of our doubts and misgivings
But on Sunday, come on you Lions, batter the fuckers
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I didn't watch it. I couldn't face it, no chance.
So, so, so fucking relieved.
COME ON YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING FUCKERS!
I watched it, but couldn't face the match thread.
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Davis will come good and score goals for fun next season.
He needs to put away his chances now. He's had excellent opportunities lately and fluffed all of them.
Tonight one is the sort of chance that a striker who's scored a few recently takes with ease but someone struggling for goals overthinks it. He needs to work at his finishing but he offered much more of a threat than Samatta in my opinion, making a few really good runs to either get the chance or create space elsewhere.
Watching the replay, he's fixated on the 'keeper. I don't think he'd any idea of where exactly he wanted to put.
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I peeked at the score at HT.
Put it in the telly.
Had a few walks round the garden.
FUCKING HELL!
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What an evening. For the whole of the second half I felt physically sick and could barely watch. The Davis miss the sense of deja vu but we got the win. Watching the ball hit the post and the Reina fumble oh my days.
Observations
Really pleased smith put Guilbert on over hause. He was excellent
Konza was excellent crucial blocks
McGinn improving game by game
Grealish best game since lockdown
Samatta or Davis - neither good enough at this level
Trez - one of the strangest players one minute hopeless next minute scoring huge goals. He reminds me of a de la Cruz or Leonardsen.
We have to play to win Sunday big key could be an extra days rest. Really could do with Antonio or soucek getting injuries tomo!!!
Come on the villa one more performance save your last 4 results as your best run of the season
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Any Villa going to be in Ilfracombe or anywhere nearby Sunday, and if so where are we watching the game?
What a shit time to book first week away since lockdown
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Great result, great performance. Arsenal would have found it very difficult, emotionally, to get up for another game so close to their excellent semi-final win against Man City and we capitalise really well. Dean Smith making tactical changes throughout the game, well done that man. Lovely goal from Trezeguet, confidence is growing. Some really good individual performances contributing to the whole team performance. I really like Ezri Konsa. He is going to be a really good player for us. McGinn getting stronger, Jack back on form, Luiz was clever and effective throughout. We were very good defensively. One thing I would like us to work on. Any free kick at all, from anywhere on the park, get it in the box and make a nuisance of ourselves. We have the height and movement, make full use of it and stop passing backwards. Loved tonight, despite the nerves, I'm glad I don't smoke!
Well done Dean Smith. Prove me wrong, please.
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Smith teams always get better at the end of the season...
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I couldn’t Stand to watch or listen so went Likely Lads however thought it was an 8pm ko so switched phone back on at 945 and still 20 mins to go. Absolute torture.
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Brilliant result, and performance. Probably the most nervous I've been watching a match on TV since the Fulham play-off final.
Before the Liverpool game, with 6 games to go, I said the best we can probably hope for is to go to West Ham knowing a win would keep us up. Three games ago that didn't look likely at all - but knowing it's in our hands is massive.
Play like we did tonight, and we'll be fine.
Surely there'll be some sort of backlash from Arsenal against Watford - they can't play like that two matches on the bounce before a cup final.... can they?
We did.
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Come on, they were pisspoor. Having said that, it had no bearing on how well we played. The best team by miles.
Absolutely they were, but it wasn't because they couldn't be arsed or weren't interested, it was because we held them at arms length and every time they committed men forward we broke into the space they left with purpose and scared them into over playing in front of us. This wasn't a win because Arsenal were poor, it was a win because we did everything right (other than take 1-2 more chances and really underline how well we played).
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I really didn't want to watch the last 10 minutes. I felt like going to bed and just assuming we drew.
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Rusty Freddy! My cult favourite... he came on against the odds. But the mindset, the effort... first game in 6 months - wauv
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It was the best we've played without the ball since I don't know when.
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Tyrone Mings, that was an England performance. Guilbert punching the air when he won a tackle and it went out for a goal kick, love that sort of thing as it shows grit and determination. Clever booking for Duggee, very sensible play. Hourihane is losing his hologram persona. I agree about Trezeguet blowing hot and cold. Superb goal just when we needed it. Dean's tactical stuff tonight shows me that he is learning. Another nervous weekend coming up but let's enjoy the next few days.
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Guilbert was phenomenal, I can't praise his composure and passion enough after barely kicking a competitive ball in anger for big chunks of the season, let alone the restart.
I think it's probably a factor that he was relegated with Caen right before leaving them, he doesn't want the taste of relegation again so soon.
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Guilbert was immense
I like us much better when he plays. There's something about him that makes us as a whole play with a bit more guile I think, especially down the right side.
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Guilbert was phenomenal, I can't praise his composure and passion enough after barely kicking a competitive ball in anger for big chunks of the season, let alone the restart.
I think it's probably a factor that he was relegated with Caen right before leaving them, he doesn't want the taste of relegation again so soon.
I really like Guilbert, I've said it a few times through the season. It's been a tough season for him but I think he's learned a lot and will come out of it a better player. It's not been a popular opinion on here for a while so I've kept quiet but I like most of the players we signed in the summer and I've seen enough to think we've got 18-19 players of the decent mid-table squad. If we can replace the ones that aren't quite up to it over the next couple of windows I don't think we'll be looking down the table next year.
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Guilbert was immense
I like us much better when he plays. There's something about him that makes us as a whole play with a bit more guile I think, especially down the right side.
Best tackler there is
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When Elmo went off, two minds, Elmo I thought strengthend the team when he played (and scored at barcodes) Guilbert needed to prove a point.
I think he proved it.
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Rusty Freddy! My cult favourite... he came on against the odds. But the mindset, the effort... first game in 6 months - wauv
I agree, he looked as good as he did early in the season. The thing with Guilbert is he is quick, and he can tackle, which seem like obvious requirements for a defender, but one which a lot of ours don't seem to have.
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Both.
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Ive liked Guilbert since day 1, one of the few options we have that has genuine pace, we look much more dangerous when he plays, his positioning isnt great but once again his pace can counter alot of that.
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Elmo slung two good crosses in within the first five minutes but after he twanged himself he offered nothing, understandably. Guilbert was a fine substitute.
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Didn't watch and followed same routine as with Palace and Everton. (Lucky) Olive green top, check HT score then wait for the BBC alert to confirm final score on my phone. Same for Sunday. Great result but West Ham fans think they'll batter us Sunday so taking nothing for granted.
Interesting to hear Arteta say yesterday that VP was one of his favourite grounds to visit. Maybe he wants to return next season. ;)
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Was relatively confident pre-game as our performances have been progressively getting better of late. Delighted with how we played today, failure to get the killer second nearly cost us again but we deservedly held on. Helped by a somewhat disinterested Arsenal which would worry me ahead of Sunday but that's for another day. Credit to Smith, smart subs who all contributed and even that Lansbury cameo at end killed the clock a bit.
We have brought it down to the last game so credit to all of them for the past three games but it's position after game 38 that counts, not 37.
Reina 6 - don't recall a save, just aswell because I don't fancy him making one
Elmo 6 - started well but was worried with him trying to carry on ala Mings v Leicester
Guilbert 8 - had a couple of horror show appearances before his injury but reminded us today how good a player he can be. Fast, aggressive, good on the ball
Konsa 7 - solid again, made one crucial interception after a Mings error early in the second half
Mings 5 - very good first half but two horrible errors in second half could have killed us. Embarrassing the ease he was beaten with in the air for that moment when time stood still...
Targett 6 - decent on the ball but lacks it seems confidence to stray too far from Mings, leaving huge space that their dreadful right back failed to exploit thankfully
Luiz 7 - did the cynical stuff well but didn't do enough to get us playing out from the back. That forced Grealish to drop a lot deeper than planned
Hourihane 7 - key to the goal with an excellent corner, tidy when give time and space. Less so without the ball. A good pro for us, we know what we get and don't get from him.
McGinn 7 - struggled to get involved in first half but finished the game very strongly. Could have done a lot better with that chance I thought, lashed at it
Trez 7 - humble pie for me tonight. Great finish and one of his better days in a Villa shirt aside from that
Samatta 4 - tried hard but offered very little in terms of link play or goal threat
Grealish 10 - different class throughout with the ball and best I've seen him without it. Real leader for us, Davis scores that chance and that run from Jack is showed on tv all summer long.
Davis 7 - huge improvement from Samatta when he came in but that effort was horrid and given the kind footwork of the keeper was as bad as AEGs looking back. Poor guy
Nakamba 7 - battled hard when he came in and fresh legs were needed then
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Did anyone else hear Mings shout at players to press more? There was a specfic moment in the second half when one of our midfielders was doing the usual thing of falling back into retreat mode and Mings yelled at him get closer, and the end result was them turning over possession to us, when normally it would probably have meant an Arsenal player in loads of space attacking Targett. More of this please!
Also: McGinn was playing as a second striker today wasn't he? It looked like 4-1-3-2 we were playing.
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According to another website, we are ‘spawny vile bastards’.
Again.
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I'd fancy the odds our match thread was longer than the last one for their own club.
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I was off reading the rusty Freddie thread and gave it a bump but it was all happening here. I like him too. Slated after the pre-break Leicester thrashing, but then so was Dougie...
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According to another website, we are ‘spawny vile bastards’.
Again.
Who cares?
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Also: McGinn was playing as a second striker today wasn't he? It looked like 4-1-3-2 we were playing.
Yeah number 10, played there v Everton too. Was struggling in a midfield 2 or 3 so bit more freedom for him up the pitch. Getting better so hopefully Sunday is the day he cuts loose
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That was torture, but we got the result we deserved. Sunday is going to be worse, there will be plenty of twists & turns. But we've got the advantage now.
Who was the twat who asked Jack if he was staying? If we go down he leaves, if we stay up he stays unless someone offers silly money.
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I peeked at the score at HT.
Put it in the telly.
Had a few walks round the garden.
FUCKING HELL!
I spent almost entire match cleaning the paving blocks on the drive until it was too dark and then stood by the side of the garage till PWS announced the win allowing me to walk back in and watch SSN.
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Did anyone else hear Mings shout at players to press more? There was a specfic moment in the second half when one of our midfielders was doing the usual thing of falling back into retreat mode and Mings yelled at him get closer, and the end result was them turning over possession to us, when normally it would probably have meant an Arsenal player in loads of space attacking Targett. More of this please!
Also: McGinn was playing as a second striker today wasn't he? It looked like 4-1-3-2 we were playing.
We played 2 slightly different systems.
First half grealish, McGinn and Trez rotated between wings and the centre so 2 were always there to follow the fullbacks and the 3rd could overload them in midfield (along with Samatta). It's why we kept letting them get space out wide unti lthey go to our box and then we forced them in-field and outnumbered them. We did it at least 10-15 times. A few people ppointed out Grelaish coming deep but if you watch it back whenever he did it McGinn and Trez push really wide and our fullbacks pushed on as well so we were 2on1 agianst their wing backs and we got a lot of joy from balls into those areas.
2nd half they tried to push the wing backs a bit higher and we responded almost immediately by going to the 4411 you mentioned. That meant we still had the cover but we had a much better chance at counter-attacking, which made them wary unti lthe last 10 when they tried to throw everything at us and lost their shape.
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According to another website, we are ‘spawny vile bastards’.
Again.
Yes, the disallowed goal for Palace being proof of that apparently. No mention of possibly the worst penalty and then VAR decision this season against Man U, but whatever. Their latest Villa thread running for less than a week stretches to 40 pages. Nothing about their own team gets even remotely close to that. I bet most of them would accept relegation if it meant us going down as well.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
If this was Twitter I'd reply with what I think the young people call a gif, of a standing ovation.
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I've realised something just, before the palace game I made chocolate cakes, 1 for my wife to take to work and a smaller one for the kids. Tonight we had some bananas that were going a bit brown so I make a banana loaf that finished cooking just before kick off.
I think I better get the recipe book out for Sunday.
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Well said Pat Mustard.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
This. I've been shocked by the level of abuse on here, so much so that it's put me off posting. People saying they hate the team, the players are gutless, Smith is clueless, Grealish has one foot out of the door. I do think some of it is born out of desperation to stay up after a horrible decade and the effort it took to win promotion, but this team is nothing like the one that got relegated in 2016. The players are prone to error and many of them are still learning, but they all care and they all try. That's whatever happens Sunday, and I just hope there isn't another big twist to come.
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According to another website, we are ‘spawny vile bastards’.
Again.
Who cares?u
Not me.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
Correct. Saw someone say this team was worse than 2016 the other day. Have a word.
Well done, lads. I hope we can do it on the final day. If the worst happens, it won't be due to a lack of effort.
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According to another website, we are ‘spawny vile bastards’.
Again.
The noses are absolutely obsessed and convinced that they were going to overtake us until the derby in which Grealish was assaulted by their fan. They put every forward step of ours and every backward step of theirs since that game down to that game and particularly that incident.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
If this was Twitter I'd reply with what I think the young people call a gif, of a standing ovation.
I agree completely, the 2 things that annoy me about football more than anything are the instant "we just need to work harder" reaction to any poor form and the idea that teams near the bottom losing games are somehow lifelines, they're not, teams near the bottom lose all the time, it's why they're there. We didn't get lucky with Watford getting spanked by Man City, that's what happens when they play that fixture because they're not a very good team.
If I could be arsed I'd take a look on the Watford and Bournemouth forums tonight because I bet they're full of people posting about how if they worked as hard as us they'd be fine and raving about the desire and work ethic of our players.
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Was relatively confident pre-game as our performances have been progressively getting better of late. Delighted with how we played today, failure to get the killer second nearly cost us again but we deservedly held on. Helped by a somewhat disinterested Arsenal which would worry me ahead of Sunday but that's for another day. Credit to Smith, smart subs who all contributed and even that Lansbury cameo at end killed the clock a bit.
We have brought it down to the last game so credit to all of them for the past three games but it's position after game 38 that counts, not 37.
Reina 6 - don't recall a save, just aswell because I don't fancy him making one
Elmo 6 - started well but was worried with him trying to carry on ala Mings v Leicester
Guilbert 8 - had a couple of horror show appearances before his injury but reminded us today how good a player he can be. Fast, aggressive, good on the ball
Konsa 7 - solid again, made one crucial interception after a Mings error early in the second half
Mings 5 - very good first half but two horrible errors in second half could have killed us. Embarrassing the ease he was beaten with in the air for that moment when time stood still...
Targett 6 - decent on the ball but lacks it seems confidence to stray too far from Mings, leaving huge space that their dreadful right back failed to exploit thankfully
Luiz 7 - did the cynical stuff well but didn't do enough to get us playing out from the back. That forced Grealish to drop a lot deeper than planned
Hourihane 7 - key to the goal with an excellent corner, tidy when give time and space. Less so without the ball. A good pro for us, we know what we get and don't get from him.
McGinn 7 - struggled to get involved in first half but finished the game very strongly. Could have done a lot better with that chance I thought, lashed at it
Trez 7 - humble pie for me tonight. Great finish and one of his better days in a Villa shirt aside from that
Samatta 4 - tried hard but offered very little in terms of link play or goal threat
Grealish 10 - different class throughout with the ball and best I've seen him without it. Real leader for us, Davis scores that chance and that run from Jack is showed on tv all summer long.
Davis 7 - huge improvement from Samatta when he came in but that effort was horrid and given the kind footwork of the keeper was as bad as AEGs looking back. Poor guy
Nakamba 7 - battled hard when he came in and fresh legs were needed then
With all due respect, 5 for Mings is absurd. One miscue aside, I thought he was imperious.
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I’ve also rated Guilbert this season. He’s quality, you can see it. Fuck me, that was an anxious last 20 mins for me. It was like the clock was ticking backwards instead of forward! Need to beat the spammers now to properly see the job through. Fk relying on anyone else to lose.
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Yeah, 5 for Mings is absolutely mental. He was excellent.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
I spent the whole of the game feeling physically sick.
I had to walk round the garden from about 75 mins with my phone.I couldn't watch the tele any longer. Anybody know how to use a defibrillator.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
Well said, love this team and even in defeat we’ve seen some very good football from them at times.
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I’ve never walked around my flat as much as I have tonight. There’s some rather nice parts of it I’d nearly forgotten about.
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Rusty Freddy! My cult favourite... he came on against the odds. But the mindset, the effort... first game in 6 months - wauv
I agree, he looked as good as he did early in the season. The thing with Guilbert is he is quick, and he can tackle, which seem like obvious requirements for a defender, but one which a lot of ours don't seem to have.
You could make a case that in large part our PL season, with one game to go, might have been saved with the fortuitous introduction of two different RB’s
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I was tidying my desk at one point. Thought I'd wasted at least 10 minutes, but was disappointed to note that 0.0000000003 nanoseconds had elapsed.
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Right now, I don't give a shit what anybody else thinks, I had a phone conversation with my quarantined father, it was magical, right up there with Old Trafford 77, Highbury 81 and Rotterdam 82. All three times he warned me not to expect too much, don't get your hopes up but this season I knew we weren't as bad as we pretend to be. Tonight it was great to see the true character of Aston Villa once again shine through.
Other than that...YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
What a relief. The last 20 minutes was like 120 minutes and a penalty shoot out. Proud of every player tonight. It's all we ever ask for, the full Ron Saunders. Credit to Smith for getting organised like we haven't been all season. Onwards and upwards!
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Hope is arising... my fellow Faroese Lions are requesting we do a gathering for the last game
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Game management and silly mistakes have been our downfall, not the effort and commitment of the players. This group should never be lumped into the same category as the teams of 1987 and 2016.
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Other than the Reina post incident we looked very comfortable throughout, even so I was still shitting it big time.
In fact we have looked very comfortable in the last 3 games apart from 1 heart in mouth moment per game.
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I was tidying my desk at one point. Thought I'd wasted at least 10 minutes, but was disappointed to note that 0.0000000003 nanoseconds had elapsed.
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Ha ha ha yep, maybe Einstein came up with his theory of relativity after watching Villa defend a one goal lead.
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Pre-lockdown, I was frustrated by our inability to grind out more draws to go with out 7 wins. If I'm not mistaken, we had 7 wins and 4 draws pre-lockdown?
Since the re-start we have 2 wins and 3 draws. Becoming that little bit harder to beat, late and all as it was, is what has given us something to build on.
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I deliberately decided not to watch the game tonight, as I wouldn't have enjoyed it.
I am delighted with the result, and watching those Sky highlights even made me nervous.
As Ron Saunders said, "do you want to bet against us?"
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Game management and silly mistakes have been our downfall, not the effort and commitment of the players. This group should never be lumped into the same category as the teams of 1987 and 2016.
yep, not even remotedly comparable in character. They may not be good enough but even the worse performers have tried.
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Before tonight, our chances of survival according to some betting website somewhere were 19%. With everything now in our own hands on the final day, I suspect that they’re a little bit more than that.
It’s up to us now. We need to win though I suspect Watford will struggle against Arsenal, and Bournemouth will draw against Everton.
What a massive result for us tonight. I am over the moon. Grit, determination, passion and bottle. I am over the moon.
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Are we live on the TV on Sunday?
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Before tonight, our chances of survival according to some betting website somewhere were 19%. With everything now in our own hands on the final day, I suspect that they’re a little bit more than that.
It’s up to us now. We need to win though I suspect Watford will struggle against Arsenal, and Bournemouth will draw against Everton.
What a massive result for us tonight. I am over the moon. Grit, determination, passion and bottle. I am over the moon.
We've gone from 1/10 to 9/4 in a week.
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Before tonight, our chances of survival according to some betting website somewhere were 19%. With everything now in our own hands on the final day, I suspect that they’re a little bit more than that.
It’s up to us now. We need to win though I suspect Watford will struggle against Arsenal, and Bournemouth will draw against Everton.
What a massive result for us tonight. I am over the moon. Grit, determination, passion and bottle. I am over the moon.
We've gone from 1/10 to 9/4 in a week.
Fickle bookmakers
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I did tell everyone to lump on when it was 11/1 not to go down
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https://twitter.com/thevillahome/status/1285694727828930560?s=21 :)
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Brilliant finish from that useless Tresequet. I thought Mings and Grealish were both immense. Gilbert did ok when he came on as well.
We can do this.
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We’ve had worst days, Rodders.
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Really good performance. So organised and hard working, while always carrying a theat on the break.
Guilbert was excellent when he came on and bar one or two moments, we were comfortable throughout. Largely helped by the excellent Dougie, the effort from midfield to squeeze space and a superb finish for the goal.
Excellent from Smith to change the system , it really nullified Arsenal who just couldn't match our commitment. They were lateral on their play and didn't penetrate us at all.
No howlers and only one scare. Excellent, truly excellent. What a chance to survive!
4 of the 5 results needed have gone our way. Just 1 more on Sunday boys, just 1 more. Let's beat West Ham and do it the easy way for once.
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https://twitter.com/thevillahome/status/1285694727828930560?s=21 :)
heheheh
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Are we live on the TV on Sunday?
We will be. Sky/BT have been waiting to show the games that matter most its the 2 clubs who could go down and perhaps Man U Leicester for the last CL place
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Special mention for the twat of a commentator. Every couple of minutes it was an anti Villa stat of one sort.
Haven’t beaten Arsenal since...
Most points thrown away after leading
Number of goals conceded in the last five minutes.
I know it’s his job to build the match up but it did nothing for my nerves!
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
This is correct.
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Special mention for the twat of a commentator. Every couple of minutes it was an anti Villa stat of one sort.
Haven’t beaten Arsenal since...
Most points thrown away after leading
Number of goals conceded in the last five minutes.
I know it’s his job to build the match up but it did nothing for my nerves!
I think I shouted stfu at all those coments
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My commentary was in Dutch. It was excellent.
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My commentary was in Dutch. It was excellent.
Good to know Steve McLaren still does some work.
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Dunno about anyone else, but I’m still buzzing off the back of that! UTV!!
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Yep. Struggling to concentrate on anything else and can't sleep.
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It was brilliant. We fuck things up so often, just enjoy it.
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Any Villa going to be in Ilfracombe or anywhere nearby Sunday, and if so where are we watching the game?
What a shit time to book first week away since lockdown
I’m going to be in Bournemouth!! Which could get awkward !
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I’ve been skeptical that taking Konsa at 15m (?) Versus a cheaper option and buying malpauy was a smart plan but he was brilliant tonight. Ours to mess up. I do worry we could see villa and watford getting defeated and Bournemouth coming from nowhere to stay up
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We have to beat West Ham
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I thought we pressed higher up the pitch tonight, played further forward, glad for Dean as he has taken a lot of stick from some about not being good enough at this level, he's learning and will be a better manager next season wherever he is, well done to all of us villa
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I've slagged Trezeguet as much as anyone (and to be honest he has been awful most of the season) but fair play he seems to have found a use, and has developed a knack of being in the right place and tucking the shots away at the time we need it most. Maybe there is a player in there somewhere after all.
I'm another who couldn't watch tonight and Sunday is going to be worse. Even a win doesn't necessarily keep us up although it should do. I just wonder if West Ham will be more up for it than Arsenal or Everton. In any case we've done bloody well to even have a shout on Sunday compared to where we were 3 games ago.
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He’ll be at Villa next season, rain or shine.
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Was a 3.15 am kick off here in Perth West Aussie.
I had it all ready to stream on my computer but when I turned it on for the game the browser was updating or something so didn't get to see most of the game.
It was a blessing really as I don't know how I would have coped with the pressure.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to the match thread as that's how I followed it.
Like someone said at the end of the thread, the best post this season was "1-0 FT"
I am going to watch the game later today recorded on the Arsenal TV channel.
Not sure about how I will get through Sunday night but after Man U I wouldn't have believed we would have been in this position.
UTV
Not sure
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Hope is arising... my fellow Faroese Lions are requesting we do a gathering for the last game
Do it Ed. What sort of restrictions do you have in place if any?
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West Ham is the thing that’s concerning us a bit now, Aftab. Get through that and we’re done my friend!!
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Any Villa going to be in Ilfracombe or anywhere nearby Sunday, and if so where are we watching the game?
What a shit time to book first week away since lockdown
I’m going to be in Bournemouth!! Which could get awkward !
No problem. They'll all be supporting Manchester United again by six.
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Bournemouth Lions are trying to arrange a socially distanced meet up to watch the game and suffer in unison.
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What can i say other than i told you Arsenal would get the pre-wembley wobbles. 5 out of the last 5 results predicted correctly. Please use the message system for instructions on where to direct all cheques, postal orders and bank transfers. thank yew...
Arsenal need to win on Sunday or at least, draw.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
This is correct.
Well said, agreed. UTV
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I called AEG a coward for bottleing it last week,I am not apologising, although “coward” is thrown around too lightly.
Isn’t it sad that after a tremendous victory that some people want to have a fan witch-hunt.
Enjoy the win lads we are all Villa.
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a phenomena that isn't unique to us.
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In many ways the most complete performance of the season for so many reasons, not one bad performance with some 9 out of10 ones. Jack was inspirational.
And except for the poor decision against Target I thought the ref had a good game and no stupid VAR moments.
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we are the team in the ascent, a win vs West Ham will see us in the Premiership next season
"Oh mate!"
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
Spot on. They've lacked confidence not heart.
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Think my heart rate has just dropped below 100. Still absolutely buzzing.
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Good morning all. What a lovely, lovely feeling to wake up to. Love it.
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Best team performance of the season for me. Tactically spot on from Deano and he deserves the plaudits as much as the criticism when we lose. SJM is back, his best performance since his injury and Jack's was a true Captain's performance. Konsa will be a very good player and Trez with confidence and coaching has a lot of talent. We still need goals from strikers though! A special mention to Freddie, dropped into a game after injury and a nightmare at Leicester and was first class. Douglas has been key for me throughout this spell and now the others are getting to his standard.
Arsenal had no shots on target so TalkShite gave Reina MOM....twats.
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Easily the best performance of our season.... and noteably, possibly the only match where both Grealish AND McGinn have both turned up in the same 90 mins.
All of them immense. Was worried when Elmo went off, as he's impressed the last couple of games, but Freddie, the French Cafu, came on and gave a right back masterclass (loved the fist pump after winning a goal kick!).
All of them played well, even our mis-firing strikers, who at least put the running in. Konsa and Mings were commanding at the back (barring Mings' brain fart where he mistook himself for a left winger!). :S
My only minor quibble which fills me with dread EVERY time, is how Targett stands off his man. He offers waaay more at LB going forward (especially if linking up with Jack), but I really wish he'd get tighter to his man and stop a few more of those crosses being whipped in!
Proud of every single one of them. Even Dean and the management team performed admirably last night.
I'm eating humble pie this morning and couldn't be any more pleased about it - Well done lads!
UTV
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We played really well last night, all the players put in a maximum effort. Capt Jack was excellent.
Take this forward to WH please...
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Excellemt performance by the players and management, thoroughly deserved. In all the relegation fights we've gone through over the years when did it last come down to the final match of the season? Norwich away 1995?
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I didn't watch it. I couldn't face it, no chance.
So, so, so fucking relieved.
COME ON YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING FUCKERS!
I started watching Midsomer Murders but when there was a break I was flicking over.
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If only we had a proper striker we would be nowhere near where we are .
Absolute still buzzing , all my non villa mates messaging me , I was on the edge of my seat for you , played brilliant .....love it
Its in our hands and we will do this..
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Its frustrating with smith, he showed more tactical knowhow tonight than he has all season, even wasted time with a sub too.
We said the same, the game management was just right. We’ve had it done to us more than enough times.
Maybe he reads H&V?
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That’s a nice feeling to wake up to, bloody amazing.
Last night when Davis slid it wide I was waiting for the usual late collapse but Konsa and Mings just soaked it up and got on the end of anything that got by Luiz of SJM, who both ran their hearts out.
If we stay up that’s the resilience we need in the final 20 minutes of every match as well as being far more ruthless with our chances. If we do that we’ll be not looking over our shoulders next year.
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Other than the Reina post incident we looked very comfortable throughout, even so I was still shitting it big time.
In fact we have looked very comfortable in the last 3 games apart from 1 heart in mouth moment per game.
A big bonus to the ground staff member who put that extra coat of paint on the goalpost.
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It's said that 5 from 9 subs benefits the teams with stronger squads, but it also allows Villa to carry someone like Lansbury as a designated time-wasting sub.
Hope to see him come on around 90+4 again on Sunday
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It's said that 5 from 9 subs benefits the teams with stronger squads, but it also allows Villa to carry someone like Lansbury as a designated time-wasting sub.
Hope to see him come on around 90+4 again on Sunday
Admit it, nobody thought they’d see Lansbury again did they?
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I never for one minute thought we would win pre game last night. I expected Arsenal to put 2 or 3 past us with ease. I am so pleased. Now it looks possible.
I hope you are all feeling as good as I am this morning.
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I think what really made the difference last night was that every one of the players worked their socks off from start to finish. They really wanted it, and got the reward they deserved.
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The thing is with the exception of the Manure rollover, this team has not been playing badly since the restart. The one thing missing was the 10 percent uplift in tempo and aggression. That is now there. We will always be under pressure due to the lack of goals but at least we are fighting. Perform like that on Sunday and at least we will come away with a draw.
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Thank Christ for that.
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It's said that 5 from 9 subs benefits the teams with stronger squads, but it also allows Villa to carry someone like Lansbury as a designated time-wasting sub.
Hope to see him come on around 90+4 again on Sunday
I'm not sure I'd take being one goal away from relegation going into stoppage time on Sunday! I had about six heart attacks last night. Arsenal and Everton both need to go 2-0 up early on.
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Now, to have a fucking heart attack.
I spent the whole of the game feeling physically sick.
Couldn't watch.
Might give Sunday the swerve n'all.
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Last night was one of those nights where everything comes together. Tactics, effort, application etc.
We'll need a repeat on Sunday. I'm confident we'll be safe.
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We played well last night. There was an adaptation of shape to negate the opposition, changing from a 4-3-3 to a 4-1-4-1 to a 4-4-2 as the game progressed. Whilst I have seen Smith do that before I don’t think it’s been as effective.
Great performances from Luiz, Konsa, Gilbert, and the rest. Even Targett had a good game and he’s the one who’s usually hopelessly out of position.
On the comparison with the 15/16 season. I have to say the game against Manure saw the worst performance I have seen since then from a far better team. After that penalty we never looked like as a team we wanted to compete. It could have gone two ways from there. We could have limped off into the championship without a real wimper or we could fight back.
I was thinking back to the 88/89 season. Perhaps this season more accurately mirrors that one.
A manager under pressure, a rising star who was probably off if we got relegated, a defence which always seemed susceptible. But we showed grit and determination even though we were not the best team in the league.
We almost died on our feet trying to get over the line. I remember a nervy win over Luton and newcastle which about saved our season, but last day nerves against Coventry. Can’t remember who we lost to the week before.
I do hope it’s the same outcome on Sunday.
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another thing , always thought that lineswoman was excellent , that bloody free kick she gave on Targett , I was thinking ffs this is it :(
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It's said that 5 from 9 subs benefits the teams with stronger squads, but it also allows Villa to carry someone like Lansbury as a designated time-wasting sub.
Hope to see him come on around 90+4 again on Sunday
Admit it, nobody thought they’d see Lansbury again did they?
Was speaking to a big Forest fan at work yesterday, he couldn't believe we'd had him on the bench.
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Apologies if anyone has already posted this. Cmon we we all like this weren’t we?
This is so good. Oh and check out the dogs face.
https://twitter.com/thestandsofvp/status/1285732784083017729?s=21
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I was thinking back to the 88/89 season. Perhaps this season more accurately mirrors that one.
A manager under pressure, a rising star who was probably off if we got relegated, a defence which always seemed susceptible. But we showed grit and determination even though we were not the best team in the league.
We almost died on our feet trying to get over the line. I remember a nervy win over Luton and newcastle which about saved our season, but last day nerves against Coventry. Can’t remember who we lost to the week before.
I do hope it’s the same outcome on Sunday.
Indeed. We had a reasonable start that season, had plenty of goals in us and never really looked in trouble until the second half of the campaign when McInally's goal's dried up.
15/16 we were effectively gone by the Watford home defeat in November/Dec.
If we can just stay up this year I reckon we'll be fine medium to long term.
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Anybody worried about our keeper?
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Reading the comments, im surprised how many fans who love the Villa enough to be active members on a Villa fan site chose not to watch the game last night. As uncomfortable as it was, the emotions watching a game like that stirs up are why everyone got into football in the first place no? There is always a chance of a performance like that, or the play-off semi or the league cup semi. Don't get me wrong, I could barely watch injury time and came up with some ridiculous system of pausing tv for a minute and watching a minute at a time on fast forward to get me through it but bloody hell, that was up there with the best ive seen.
This isnt a criticism BTW so please dont take offence, just an observation of the notion of having access/ability to watch the Villa in such an important game and choosing not to (for what ever reason), is completely and totally alien to me. Im glad my wife wasnt in labour last night or I would be spending a shit tonne on flowers this morning....
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I'm a far bigger cricket fan than I am football but I couldn't watch the super over in the World Cup final last year, or the final overs of Stokes's stand with Jack Leach.
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We played well last night. There was an adaptation of shape to negate the opposition, changing from a 4-3-3 to a 4-1-4-1 to a 4-4-2 as the game progressed. Whilst I have seen Smith do that before I don’t think it’s been as effective.
Great performances from Luiz, Konsa, Gilbert, and the rest. Even Targett had a good game and he’s the one who’s usually hopelessly out of position.
On the comparison with the 15/16 season. I have to say the game against Manure saw the worst performance I have seen since then from a far better team. After that penalty we never looked like as a team we wanted to compete. It could have gone two ways from there. We could have limped off into the championship without a real wimper or we could fight back.
I was thinking back to the 88/89 season. Perhaps this season more accurately mirrors that one.
A manager under pressure, a rising star who was probably off if we got relegated, a defence which always seemed susceptible. But we showed grit and determination even though we were not the best team in the league.
We almost died on our feet trying to get over the line. I remember a nervy win over Luton and newcastle which about saved our season, but last day nerves against Coventry. Can’t remember who we lost to the week before.
I do hope it’s the same outcome on Sunday.
That’s a really good summary and I think your right 88/89 is a far better comparison. Would love it if Sunday wasn’t actually nerve shredding but Cruz control, never likely to happen with the villa.
Interesting getting the perspective of fans of other teams. I’ve had work mates message me today that are Derby, Wimbledon and even Liverpool, who all thought it was a great game in which villa were superb for 94 minutes.
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In my case I pulled this stunt for the play off final last year and Everton away recently, as well as last night. So I'm taking one for the team.
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We have a WhatsApp group for our family season ticket holders and I posted at the final whistle “imagine being in a packed Villa Park right now”. Probably the first time since the restart I felt properly engaged with a game. Even my other half who is, at best, indifferent to football was shouting for the ref to blow the final whistle.
The manager and players got pretty much everything spot on last night and a similar level of performance and commitment is essential on Sunday.
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Great goal by Trez. A bullet.
Davis miss was a very difficult shot to take being pushed wide by the defender.
I'd keep Reina for next season.
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I'm a far bigger cricket fan than I am football but I couldn't watch the super over in the World Cup final last year, or the final overs of Stokes's stand with Jack Leach.
As Buttler broke the stumps, I simultaneously broke two of the floorboards in my house jumping up and down. I spent the final day of the Headingley test in the garden to minimise the risk of any further damage.
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I managed to watch up until Tyrone headed that cross over the bar at around 88 mins. Then I had to turn off and walk away!
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What a performance from the boys brilliant win my heart and nerves were doing cartwheels so happy with the win one more win please.
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Anybody worried about our keeper?
It was bloody terrifying watching back as the ball hit his left knee and would have gone in not for a bit of fortune in hitting his right knee.
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We played well last night. There was an adaptation of shape to negate the opposition, changing from a 4-3-3 to a 4-1-4-1 to a 4-4-2 as the game progressed. Whilst I have seen Smith do that before I don’t think it’s been as effective.
Great performances from Luiz, Konsa, Gilbert, and the rest. Even Targett had a good game and he’s the one who’s usually hopelessly out of position.
On the comparison with the 15/16 season. I have to say the game against Manure saw the worst performance I have seen since then from a far better team. After that penalty we never looked like as a team we wanted to compete. It could have gone two ways from there. We could have limped off into the championship without a real wimper or we could fight back.
I was thinking back to the 88/89 season. Perhaps this season more accurately mirrors that one.
A manager under pressure, a rising star who was probably off if we got relegated, a defence which always seemed susceptible. But we showed grit and determination even though we were not the best team in the league.
We almost died on our feet trying to get over the line. I remember a nervy win over Luton and newcastle which about saved our season, but last day nerves against Coventry. Can’t remember who we lost to the week before.
I do hope it’s the same outcome on Sunday.
That’s a really good summary and I think your right 88/89 is a far better comparison. Would love it if Sunday wasn’t actually nerve shredding but Cruz control, never likely to happen with the villa.
Interesting getting the perspective of fans of other teams. I’ve had work mates message me today that are Derby, Wimbledon and even Liverpool, who all thought it was a great game in which villa were superb for 94 minutes.
I thought that in 1989 after our final game against Coventry West Ham had two games in hand still to play away at Forest and Liverpool due to the backlog caused by the Hillsborough disaster. They had to win both to stay up and send us down. They went and won at Forest with two goals from Leroy Rosenior and went a goal up in their following game at Anfield, at which point we were down. Luckily for us Liverpool recovered from going a goal down and ended up sticking five past West Ham.
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Anybody worried about our keeper?
It was bloody terrifying watching back as the ball hit his left knee and would have gone in not for a bit of fortune in hitting his right knee.
We've had lots of bad luck, and good luck this season. That ricochet is up there with the phantom Sheff Utd goal. Which sort of makes up for the Palace goal that never was and the Man Utd pen that never should have been.
It does tend to even itself out over a season, but I reserve the right to say that is complete bollocks if things don't go our way on Sunday
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We played well last night. There was an adaptation of shape to negate the opposition, changing from a 4-3-3 to a 4-1-4-1 to a 4-4-2 as the game progressed. Whilst I have seen Smith do that before I don’t think it’s been as effective.
Great performances from Luiz, Konsa, Gilbert, and the rest. Even Targett had a good game and he’s the one who’s usually hopelessly out of position.
On the comparison with the 15/16 season. I have to say the game against Manure saw the worst performance I have seen since then from a far better team. After that penalty we never looked like as a team we wanted to compete. It could have gone two ways from there. We could have limped off into the championship without a real wimper or we could fight back.
I was thinking back to the 88/89 season. Perhaps this season more accurately mirrors that one.
A manager under pressure, a rising star who was probably off if we got relegated, a defence which always seemed susceptible. But we showed grit and determination even though we were not the best team in the league.
We almost died on our feet trying to get over the line. I remember a nervy win over Luton and newcastle which about saved our season, but last day nerves against Coventry. Can’t remember who we lost to the week before.
I do hope it’s the same outcome on Sunday.
That’s a really good summary and I think your right 88/89 is a far better comparison. Would love it if Sunday wasn’t actually nerve shredding but Cruz control, never likely to happen with the villa.
Interesting getting the perspective of fans of other teams. I’ve had work mates message me today that are Derby, Wimbledon and even Liverpool, who all thought it was a great game in which villa were superb for 94 minutes.
I thought that in 1989 after our final game against Coventry West Ham had two games in hand still to play away at Forest and Liverpool due to the backlog caused by the Hillsborough disaster. They had to win both to stay up and send us down. They went and won at Forest with two goals from Leroy Rosenior and went a goal up in their following game at Anfield, at which point we were down. Luckily for us Liverpool recovered from going a goal down and ended up sticking five past West Ham.
You are right. It was the season Nick Hornby invented football, just before Sky did. i know we were poor the second half of the season and i was worried we were going to get relegated. The real fear was we had not done enough and really needed a win against Cov. We did stumble over that line. Extremely stressful, listening on the radio to the game at Forest and then at Anfield.
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I assume I'm not the only one checking the table every five minutes today?
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Fantastic result.
Now let's finish it off on Sunday.
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Yeah fantastic result. Just after we scored I decided to turn over for the sake of my wife and myself, turned out to be a good decision. Watched this morning and my heart rate and blood pressure were all over the place and I knew the result, fair play to those that watched it live !!!
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Yeah fantastic result. Just after we scored I decided to turn over for the sake of my wife and myself, turned out to be a good decision. Watched this morning and my heart rate and blood pressure were all over the place and I knew the result, fair play to those that watched it live !!!
You're the wiser for it. Some of us are still in intensive care after
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I couldnt watch because the Man U game and VAR nearly tipped me over the edge.
A bit like last seaon before we went on the 10 game winning run, i had resigned myself to staying in the Championship, so felt relaxed watching the games knowing it didn't really matter if we lost.
So, i had already resigned myself to relegation this season after watching us since lockdown, which meant the Palace and Everton games were watchable. however knowing we still had a chance of escaping meant watching last night would have been too stressful if we'd thrown it away, or VAR f**ked us again.
Fair play to those that stuck it out.
I will be watching on Sunday.
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I'm a far bigger cricket fan than I am football but I couldn't watch the super over in the World Cup final last year, or the final overs of Stokes's stand with Jack Leach.
As Buttler broke the stumps, I simultaneously broke two of the floorboards in my house jumping up and down. I spent the final day of the Headingley test in the garden to minimise the risk of any further damage.
im more into the cricket than the football too. But when the football drags you, it’s like getting swept off your feet by a massive wave
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That was a real performance of maturity and poise last night. What a time to do it. Bearing in mind the opposition and stakes attached to the game it was an extremely controlled top-drawer performance.
Momentum is everything. Our last 3 games when one negative result could have been curtains have been mightily impressive and I would rather be us than Watford or Bournemouth.
If we can stay up on Sunday then hopefully we can take the experience of these then 4 games into next season.
Sunday is going to be very, very tough to sit through though but we are in a good place.
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I can only picture all you cricket types as wearing Portillo coloured trousers with a jauntily tied yellow V-neck over the shoulders!
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Try imagining getting your teeth smashed out by an Andy Roberts lifter like Botham did at Lords in a practice match
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I couldn’t watch the end. Turned off on 82 minutes, stuck sweet Caroline on and paced the house and garden like a lunatic for 20 minutes until turned the telly back on. What relief. Firmly believe the players and staff know nothing is achieved yet and they will be in the right frame of mind for Sunday.
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I can only picture all you cricket types as wearing Portillo coloured trousers with a jauntily tied yellow V-neck over the shoulders!
No sweater over the shoulders, I'm afraid, but I'd love a pair of Portillo's trousers. As long as he hadn't already worn them.
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I see that Derby lad has changed his tune (the troll with the 'Villa's goin down, down, down, down, down' tune)...
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20
(https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20)
Still an utter bellend, but fair play to him. Good sport. ;)
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I see that Derby lad has changed his tune (the troll with the 'Villa's goin down, down, down, down, down' tune)...
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20
(https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20)
Still an utter bellend, but fair play to him. Good sport. ;)
And for those that don't have the twitter....
Villa won against Arsenal I'm hearing?
Above the bottom three going into the final day?
Alexa, pause that tune. Disappointed but ...
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1285686818441170946/pu/vid/720x1280/zupYNHu1fvaMbirW.mp4?tag=10 (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1285686818441170946/pu/vid/720x1280/zupYNHu1fvaMbirW.mp4?tag=10)
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I see that Derby lad has changed his tune (the troll with the 'Villa's goin down, down, down, down, down' tune)...
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20
(https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20)
Still an utter bellend, but fair play to him. Good sport. ;)
And for those that don't have the twitter....
Villa won against Arsenal I'm hearing?
Above the bottom three going into the final day?
Alexa, pause that tune. Disappointed but ...
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1285686818441170946/pu/vid/720x1280/zupYNHu1fvaMbirW.mp4?tag=10 (https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1285686818441170946/pu/vid/720x1280/zupYNHu1fvaMbirW.mp4?tag=10)
Things like that make me glad I'm not on social media anymore. It's like an aircraft hangar full of Britain's Got Talent contestants, but without Simon Cowell calling them talentless ****** and telling them to go home.
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Anyone seen the interview with Kalvin Phillips today - that has been so helpfully shared by the Meaning Evil site?!
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I see that Derby lad has changed his tune (the troll with the 'Villa's goin down, down, down, down, down' tune)...
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20
(https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20)
Still an utter bellend, but fair play to him. Good sport. ;)
I didn't know he was Derby. I assumed he was a scummy little Wolves fan.
Irritating twat. Let's hope he doesn't have the last laugh! Haha.
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Yeah, 5 for Mings is absolutely mental. He was excellent.
Nearly cost us two goals, while having to deal with a forward that bombed on loan at Leeds
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I couldn’t watch the end. Turned off on 82 minutes, stuck sweet Caroline on and paced the house and garden like a lunatic for 20 minutes until turned the telly back on. What relief. Firmly believe the players and staff know nothing is achieved yet and they will be in the right frame of mind for Sunday.
i only watched the last 20 mins Vinnie- it was mental. I remember the Lino overruling the ref to give them a free kick I was sure they’d score from. She looked about fkn 17.
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Anyone seen the interview with Kalvin Phillips today - that has been so helpfully shared by the Meaning Evil site?!
No, just their headline about Tony Adams telling Arsenal to buy one of our players. I'm guessing Jack but I didn't click on the article for obvious reasons.
Being supportive as ever, are they?
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Anyone seen the interview with Kalvin Phillips today - that has been so helpfully shared by the Meaning Evil site?!
No, just their headline about Tony Adams telling Arsenal to buy one of our players. I'm guessing Jack but I didn't click on the article for obvious reasons.
Being supportive as ever, are they?
Nope, it's Doug he's after.
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Phew what a night, superb performances from Guilbert, Mings, Konsa, Jack and of course Trez, what a strike, and I would also give a mention to Nakamba, played well when he came on. Only downsides were the Davis miss and injury to Elmo, hopefully he will be available. If we can put the same performance in on Sunday, then we can do it, though not sure how my old ticker is gonna survive another 90 mins plus of torture.
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Anyone seen the interview with Kalvin Phillips today - that has been so helpfully shared by the Meaning Evil site?!
No, just their headline about Tony Adams telling Arsenal to buy one of our players. I'm guessing Jack but I didn't click on the article for obvious reasons.
Being supportive as ever, are they?
Nope, it's Doug he's after.
I know they had a Kronke out banner flown over the ground last night but surely he’s a better bet than a bloke who has been dead for 2 years.
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Anybody worried about our keeper?
Somehow he got MOTM on Talksport (!) despite the fumble and not having a shot to save.
I guess I would still go with him for Sunday.
The defence put up a really good display. Hause's injury was a blessing in disguise as Konsa is better in his normal position allowing us to play full-backs at full-back.
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I can only picture all you cricket types as wearing Portillo coloured trousers with a jauntily tied yellow V-neck over the shoulders!
No sweater over the shoulders, I'm afraid, but I'd love a pair of Portillo's trousers. As long as he hadn't already worn them.
I need a pair for my train journeys.
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Try imagining getting your teeth smashed out by an Andy Roberts lifter like Botham did at Lords in a practice match
I believe it was actually at Taunton, in a Somerset v Hampshire B&H Cup match.....
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Try imagining getting your teeth smashed out by an Andy Roberts lifter like Botham did at Lords in a practice match
How aggressive of you.
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Anyone seen the interview with Kalvin Phillips today - that has been so helpfully shared by the Meaning Evil site?!
No, just their headline about Tony Adams telling Arsenal to buy one of our players. I'm guessing Jack but I didn't click on the article for obvious reasons.
Being supportive as ever, are they?
He’s said he is glad he stayed at Leeds because otherwise he would be getting relegated with Villa! Which could be true but we haven’t gone yet! Someone should mention it to our players.
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Henry Winter has written something nice about us!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trezeguet-triggers-hopes-of-great-aston-villa-escape-after-shock-win-over-arsenal-h2kmdrpgq?shareToken=a0c490916d29a8159ede152f4270483c
I hope that works
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I see that Derby lad has changed his tune (the troll with the 'Villa's goin down, down, down, down, down' tune)...
https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20
(https://twitter.com/TheOfficialHRH/status/1285686953795637255?s=20)
Still an utter bellend, but fair play to him. Good sport. ;)
He's Wolves, and nearly every post he does is about us, rarely mentions his own team.
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Yeah an absolute bellend. Hard to believe he's a university student who will be looking for a job in the next year or so.
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Just spoke to a good friend who is an Aresenal season ticket holder. He was spitting feathers at the way they played, in light of the previous two wins. Complimentary about the Villa though.
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Anybody worried about our keeper?
Somehow he got MOTM on Talksport (!) despite the fumble and not having a shot to save.
I guess I would still go with him for Sunday.
The defence put up a really good display. Hause's injury was a blessing in disguise as Konsa is better in his normal position allowing us to play full-backs at full-back.
I know he’s had mental aberrations at Southampton and Leicester, but I quite like Reina. Seems a bit mad, but also seems to ooze authority with the defence, just what we need for now. Saying all that no idea why he got MOM on talksport, gives a false impression of the game if nothing else. One of grealish, Konsa or Guilbert for me.
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Good observation from the Henry Winter report in The Times.
"If there was ever a team that would consider a 27th-minute goal too early, it would be Aston Villa. In the league they have conceded the most in the last 30 minutes of matches. This time there was no room for error. Each Villa clearance was met with rallying cries from team-mates."
Stiring stuff!
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Yeah an absolute bellend. Hard to believe he's a university student who will be looking for a girlfriend in the next decade or so.
Fixed.
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Game management and silly mistakes have been our downfall, not the effort and commitment of the players. This group should never be lumped into the same category as the teams of 1987 and 2016.
Agreed.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
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Henry Winter has written something nice about us!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trezeguet-triggers-hopes-of-great-aston-villa-escape-after-shock-win-over-arsenal-h2kmdrpgq?shareToken=a0c490916d29a8159ede152f4270483c
I hope that works
A lovely read.
I haven't finished listening to it yet but, for the first time in memory looking to listen to something Villa the morning after, I foolishly resorted to streaming talksport.
Futile mistake. This is what should have soundtracked the morning nappy change:
39 mins of Beeb radio to stream
Is the great escape on for Villa? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08lgtnf
One further point of information.
Trez lashed that goal in.
I've not seen anyone correctly describe it. It was fast even in action replay.
So he lashed it.
The full Partidge if you like https://youtu.be/mGLSeWYCggw
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Reading the comments, im surprised how many fans who love the Villa enough to be active members on a Villa fan site chose not to watch the game last night. As uncomfortable as it was, the emotions watching a game like that stirs up are why everyone got into football in the first place no? There is always a chance of a performance like that, or the play-off semi or the league cup semi. Don't get me wrong, I could barely watch injury time and came up with some ridiculous system of pausing tv for a minute and watching a minute at a time on fast forward to get me through it but bloody hell, that was up there with the best ive seen.
This isnt a criticism BTW so please dont take offence, just an observation of the notion of having access/ability to watch the Villa in such an important game and choosing not to (for what ever reason), is completely and totally alien to me. Im glad my wife wasnt in labour last night or I would be spending a shit tonne on flowers this morning....
I’ve been a ST holder for many years and I didn’t watch.
I think it’s the helplessness of watching on TV that I can’t bare. At least at the game you feel that encouragement can make a difference on the field. The last few minutes were excruciating, sitting in the garden waiting for the phone to vibrate with news of the equaliser.
I think superstition may now preclude me from watching on Sunday now.
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You just know Aresenal and Everton won't do us any favours. Its going to be torture..
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
I'm with Pat.
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Henry Winter has written something nice about us!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trezeguet-triggers-hopes-of-great-aston-villa-escape-after-shock-win-over-arsenal-h2kmdrpgq?shareToken=a0c490916d29a8159ede152f4270483c
I hope that works
Cracking report that is. And reading the comments afterwards which I usually do I had to laugh at the one bluenose who had to read the whole article plus comments just to leave a snidey comment. What a Villa obsessed twat.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
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Henry Winter has written something nice about us!
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trezeguet-triggers-hopes-of-great-aston-villa-escape-after-shock-win-over-arsenal-h2kmdrpgq?shareToken=a0c490916d29a8159ede152f4270483c
I hope that works
A lovely read.
I haven't finished listening to it yet but, for the first time in memory looking to listen to something Villa the morning after, I foolishly resorted to streaming talksport.
Futile mistake. This is what should have soundtracked the morning nappy change:
39 mins of Beeb radio to stream
Is the great escape on for Villa? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p08lgtnf
One further point of information.
Trez lashed that goal in.
I've not seen anyone correctly describe it. It was fast even in action replay.
So he lashed it.
The full Partidge if you like https://youtu.be/mGLSeWYCggw
Thanks for posting, I enjoyed listening to that.
I agree about the full Partridge! Great to see that again.
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People who only show up to say "I told you say" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Who's come out of the woodwork, then?
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People who only show up to say "I told you say" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Who's come out of the woodwork, then?
It's plainly obvious if you go back through this thread, there's been more than 1.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
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I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.
Who is keeping tally with this. And will it have a league table format.
I hope I am positive and give credit when it's due, but I accept some are permanently glass half empty/ pessimist types whereas others 'didn't see a problem really' even when the club was clearly hitting the skids from 2011 onwards. Vive la différence.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
If you're on about Pats post then you need to read it again. It's not happy clapping it's calling out people who love to trot out the 'coward' accusation at every setback.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
If you're not a victim then why act like one? And please stop playing the innocent - it's getting very tiresome.
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One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
That's not 'policing' though is it? No-one has been stopped from posting or banned because they don't have confidence in the manager.
That's a poster (mod or otherwise) posting their opinion on what other posters have said.
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I’m a sillhillian born brummie. I spend most of my life whinging. It’s what we do.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.
Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.
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One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
That's not 'policing' though is it? No-one has been stopped from posting or banned because they don't have confidence in the manager.
That's a poster (mod or otherwise) posting their opinion on what other posters have said.
How is calling for people to apologise an opinion?
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Just shrug it off, it's not worth it and it gets boring pretty quick.
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Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.
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I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.
Like I said a few days back, it's about taking the rough with the smooth. If a poster is constantly going to find the down side to everything and then can't take a few moments to make a positive comment when we have some success, then what's the point? Why partake in a hobby that makes you constantly miserable?
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I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.
Like I said a few days back, it's about taking the rough with the smooth. If a poster is constantly going to find the down side to everything and then can't take a few moments to make a positive comment when we have some success, then what's the point? Why partake in a hobby that makes you constantly miserable?
I'll ask my brother he's a bluenose
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.
Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.
Hairy muff. UTV
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.
Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.
Those last three words say a lot.
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People who only show up to say "I told you so" after a poor result and then disappear when times are good get absolute pelters on here.
But when the tables are turned and it's Smith supporters coming out of the woodwork to shame those who have doubted him or criticised the team, the halos shine bright; they are the true fans.
Hmmmm.
Any chance that you might give your perpetual victimhood a rest?
I'm not a victim of anything, I've been here through the bad times and the good over the last several seasons, I've been wrong on some things and I've been right on other things, it's not about me.
One of your fellow staffers made a comment on another thread not too long ago lambasting the erstwhile 'supporters' who dared have a pop at our manager and/or players before certain games and then disappear into the ether when those fixtures turned into victory. When I asked who they were referring to they said they wouldn't name names but referred to the threads and said it was easy to figure out, so I'm doing the same here in reverse to point out the hypocrisy now that the tables have turned.
Somebody has to, since you and some of the other mods are busy applauding those who are now coming on here and giving it large after an unlikely victory. It's fantastic that we beat Arsenal and have a fighting chance of survival; it's totally ridiculous to use a win as a stick to beat other supporters with.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we all bleed claret and blue here, we all want the club to stay up and do well. Nobody wants the club relegated. I don't understand why you insist on policing other posters' level of confidence in a given regime, or their optimism around future results. It's redundant.
This post is redundant. We had our little spats on here prior to the Arsenal game and I think that's mainly down to us all feeling the pressure of our predicament. It's done now because we beat them. Now we have one final push to secure our unlikely place in the Premier league next season. Can we not just pull together for Sunday? I'm a great believer in the power of positive thinking. UTV.
Yes I completely agree with your sentiment and we do all need to pull together for the final game. Others however are demanding 'apologies' (jaysis) from those who accused the team of not having any bollocks or anyone who called Smith or the players cowardly. Personally I have never levelled that charge at Smith's door; but I do think he's a bit useless sometimes and I stand by my opinion that he's not the right man for us going forward. Others apparently did say that, I'm not sure who, and I don't really care. We showed a lot of heart at Arsenal and I can only hope we do the same against West Ham. But I'm over the hypocrisy of the 'he said/she said' nonsense on here, it's all posturing.
Well said, mate.
I've never understood why the whole 'coward' thing has had some people up in arms. As for apologising, I'm curious to whom I should be apologising to?
Anyway, up the Villa.
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Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.
They're not moaning twats, they're "realists".
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Perhaps people feel vindicated after being castigated for not being a moaning twat at every turn, for not believing in others' seemingly unfailing powers of prediction.
They're not moaning twats, they're "realists".
God bless them. It's always helpful, when you find yourself in a cess pit, to have someone pointing out the smell.
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Who's demanded an apology for people being neagtive? I saw a post suggesting people apologise for calling the manager and squad cowards but that's not the same thing.
I'm pretty positive about where we are, I thought we'd survive when the lockdown started, I thought we had the squad to get the points once the games restarted and I think most of the team are young players who will improve as a result of this season. All of this is all over this section of the forum. However I posted on here a lot less than normalfor a week or 2 because anything about liking a player or seeing any silver lining attractive a handful of posters who insisted everything was shit. Some of it was so over the top that I just couldn't be bothered with it. If those people have to put up a with a week or 2 of 'bantz' then it's not like they didn't bring it on themselves.
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Can we bring a halt to this now, please?
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Well said, mate.
I've never understood why the whole 'coward' thing has had some people up in arms. As for apologising, I'm curious to whom I should be apologising to?
Anyway, up the Villa.
Coward is, in my opinion, one of the very worst insult you can throw at someone and some people are far too eager to use it. I agree that there's no one to apologise to in this case but I do think people need to consider what they say a little more. AEG at Everton is a good example, some people saw that as him not wanting to get clattered by the keeper, I didn't, I saw it as someone struggling to decide what to do and ending up over-thinking it. Call it a bad miss, slag him off for it but reading more into it to question his character is uncalled for in my opinion and that's why some fans will bring that back up.
It's like the guy on here who claimed Benteke was shit after about 3 games and then refused to admit he was wrong after he became our best player for 3 seasons in a row. People remember strong opinions and when they're proven wrong they'll mention it.
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Can we bring a halt to this now, please?
Shit, sorry, didn't spot this, I hope that last post isn't considered carrying it on.
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Can we bring a halt to this now, please?
Shit, sorry, didn't spot this, I hope that last post isn't considered carrying it on.
Coward!
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Chancer!
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I also don't get the notion that if you've posted something negative/ critical in the past, you automatically have to balance that by posting something positive when the opportunity allows.
Like I said a few days back, it's about taking the rough with the smooth. If a poster is constantly going to find the down side to everything and then can't take a few moments to make a positive comment when we have some success, then what's the point? Why partake in a hobby that makes you constantly miserable?
I don't think any Villa fan needs lessons on taking the rough with the smooth. It's generally been the more of the former for most of the time I can recall (which would be in keeping with most supporters outside of the elite clubs).
Also, posting on here for some might be an outlet. They may be textbook examples of beaming positivity and good vibes when they're at Villa Park or on the road and then express doubts/ fears they have here and on other messageboards. How they respond here is not them supporting (or not supporting) the club in any way, shape or form.
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It’s still not over and Sunday will be a nightmare, but I have to pipe up because it’s something that I’ve seen on here and has pissed me off no end in the last few weeks.
The team might still not be good enough to stay up. Dean Smith might still be tactically naive and have not made the right decisions at the right time. But anyone who has said this team don’t have bollocks, don’t work hard enough or don’t care enough is just fucking wrong. We’ve had enough piss takers in the last ten years. and this team are not that. So anyone who has called the manager or any of the players cowards in the last month, then it’s about time you apologised.
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I called Mings a coward - mainly for bottling a challenge that resulted in a goal instead of throwing himself in the way. I also commented on him (possibly) thinking more about his profile that the team. I stand by all of that.
What i will say is that there is zero % evidence of discord in the camp with any player, with players towards the coaches or tactics.
They may not be good enough (players and coaches) but if we go down it will not be because they gave up or were charlatans like the last time.
As for Jacks interview - i thought it was crass that the question was asked and to be honest what other answer could he provide?
If he acts like Delph and pledges allegiance to the club and Real Madrid offered him a gazillion quid to join - i would think he was a mug to not go
If he says he is to go - we all turn on him with a game to play.
Anyone with a brain will know that depending on where we play next year will dictate where he and others will be playing next season