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Offline Big Ming

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1275 on: August 02, 2020, 07:27:58 PM »
Sil Swinkels  linked

no idea neither

Youth signing. Defender. Highly rated, apparently.  Part of the major effort going into building a truly productive Academy.
Same story with Shapoke.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1276 on: August 02, 2020, 07:29:40 PM »
We’re not going to get players who will immediately want or expect European football without paying way over the odds. We need to find players that are obviously going to be better than what we have, but are also motivated to come to us to improve themselves and us, but also will be contributors to our progression. It will be an achievement on our part to secure a mid table position and properly compete in every game vs the top 6 or 7 sides, even winning a few. We only did that once last season. So yes, we need better but our expectations need to be measured and it includes who we can bring in based on what we are and hope to be in the next 2 or 3 seasons.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1277 on: August 02, 2020, 07:34:35 PM »
Not convinced by Origi. Prefer the link to Iheanacho

Please a resounding no to each of them. They are bit part players at their current clubs, and whilst Origi has scored some important goals in the champs league he has never done it consistently.

Let's face it we arnt in a position to sign the first choice players from their respective clubs at the moment

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1278 on: August 02, 2020, 08:00:22 PM »
Not convinced by Origi. Prefer the link to Iheanacho

Please a resounding no to each of them. They are bit part players at their current clubs, and whilst Origi has scored some important goals in the champs league he has never done it consistently.
that's the sort of striker we always sign :D
As TV said if we follow your logic we would have said no to Ings. We will not get top class finisher at this stage in our development. We took a chance on Benteke and he came good but that’s a rare occurrence.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1279 on: August 02, 2020, 08:00:32 PM »
The priority has to be Top level centre forward and 2 Midfielders. That would potentially enable us to put out a competitive 11.
Heaton Gilbert  Mings Konsa Target Luiz SJM Jack +3 above.
I do not think that the rest of the squad are PL quality and should be at best squad players.
Maybe nakamba Indiana Hause Trez Engels Wes Davis will come good . I can see an argument for keeping Hourihane as an impact sub.
Taylor AEG Elmo Nyland Samatta Jota  need to make way for replacements and hopefully a couple of youngsters making an impact.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1280 on: August 02, 2020, 08:03:12 PM »
Origi is a full international for Belgium and has developed really well at Liverpool. I think he’d be a very smart signing. Another proven PL player I wouldn’t mind at all is Troy Deeney. Yeh, yeh all the Nose stuff but he’s a brilliant professional who has proven it over many years in the PL. At 32 he wouldn’t have to play every week but for me he’d be a brilliant leader to help along Wesley and Samatta. Number one choice though is Tammy as he has everything we want in our style of play for a striker and centre forward, young and still getting better.

How has Origi developed well at Liverpool? 7 goals in 40 league appearances in last 2 seasons, when Liverpool have been hammering all around then. Granted he is up against three quality forwards but he looks distinctly average I think. Deeney is a great warrior but was dogged by injuries this season, think his legs are gone to be honest.

Agreed on Tammy as number one choice. Ive always liked Che Adams who struggled for most of this season but got going post lockdown. Chris Wood is a decent target man too.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1281 on: August 02, 2020, 08:33:46 PM »
Origi is a full international for Belgium and has developed really well at Liverpool. I think he’d be a very smart signing. Another proven PL player I wouldn’t mind at all is Troy Deeney. Yeh, yeh all the Nose stuff but he’s a brilliant professional who has proven it over many years in the PL. At 32 he wouldn’t have to play every week but for me he’d be a brilliant leader to help along Wesley and Samatta. Number one choice though is Tammy as he has everything we want in our style of play for a striker and centre forward, young and still getting better.

How has Origi developed well at Liverpool? 7 goals in 40 league appearances in last 2 seasons, when Liverpool have been hammering all around then. Granted he is up against three quality forwards but he looks distinctly average I think. Deeney is a great warrior but was dogged by injuries this season, think his legs are gone to be honest.

Agreed on Tammy as number one choice. Ive always liked Che Adams who struggled for most of this season but got going post lockdown. Chris Wood is a decent target man too.

He’s scored in cup games too most notably in the CL. And his time naturally was always going to be limited by who he plays with. His stats are certainly favourable last season to Danny Ings’ last season at Liverpool. I don’t know if he’s the answer but you have to think (as with Ings) he’s been coached really well and learned a thing or two by playing with some of the best forwards in Europe. He’s 25 so it’s about time he started playing on a regular basis. So for me it wouldn’t be the worst signing for the right price.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1282 on: August 02, 2020, 09:10:03 PM »
We'd have probably all said no to Jamie Vardy 5 years ago...

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« Reply #1283 on: August 02, 2020, 09:33:44 PM »
The goals per game is always harsh when it relates to a player who rarely starts. His goals last season work out as every 176 mins apparently, so 0.51 a game. I'm not saying it means much (Firminio's is 0.26 and is quality) but neither does the the 7 in 40. Maybe 6 of the goals were against Hereford.

I just think he's alright and it all depends on how much they're asking for. I'd have him ahead of Samatta and Davis but that isn't exactly saying much.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1284 on: August 02, 2020, 09:36:20 PM »
Origi strikes me as the next Milan Baros.  I just can’t see his heart being in it.  I read he was regularly booed whilst on loan from Liverpool in France (Lille?) Which suggests he thinks he should be at a big club or is a flat track bully.

he’s the sort of player where a loan (with buy option) would be the way to go.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1285 on: August 02, 2020, 09:38:02 PM »
Origi strikes me as the next Milan Baros.  I just can’t see his heart being in it.  I read he was regularly booed whilst on loan from Liverpool in France (Lille?) Which suggests he thinks he should be at a big club or is a flat track bully.

he’s the sort of player where a loan (with buy option) would be the way to go.

Yeah I think that's fair.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1286 on: August 02, 2020, 09:45:28 PM »
We’re not going to get players who will immediately want or expect European football without paying way over the odds. We need to find players that are obviously going to be better than what we have, but are also motivated to come to us to improve themselves and us, but also will be contributors to our progression. It will be an achievement on our part to secure a mid table position and properly compete in every game vs the top 6 or 7 sides, even winning a few. We only did that once last season. So yes, we need better but our expectations need to be measured and it includes who we can bring in based on what we are and hope to be in the next 2 or 3 seasons.

Yep. Players in that 25-28 age range who might be out of favour but still have that hunger and drive, Laursen and Carew were good examples of that. Helped lift us to regular 6th place finishes.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1287 on: August 02, 2020, 10:03:51 PM »
Would anyone take Sokratis as a CB option?

Completely forgot about him until he came on for Arsenal tonight. They said he's leaving Arsenal as he dosen't fit Arteta's build from the back plan but he does have excellent experience playing for Milan, Bremen and Dortmund and would be a rugged CB next to Mings. 90 caps for Greece and they do actually have some good CBs to pick from.
He is a complete twat.

Ha, sounds like you’ve been on a stag do or something with him in the past.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1288 on: August 02, 2020, 10:43:11 PM »
Can i have the next John Carew please.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation and the usual butter ollocks thread
« Reply #1289 on: August 02, 2020, 10:46:09 PM »
Can i have the next John Carew please.

To think we got him for one Milan Baros. And to think that someone wanted Baros so much that he would give up Carew.

And to think we then gave that person the bloody managers job when it next came up.

 


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