Quote from: chrisw1 on March 10, 2020, 12:16:36 PMQuote from: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 10, 2020, 12:12:44 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on March 10, 2020, 11:55:51 AMQuote from: tony scott on March 10, 2020, 11:53:45 AMWe have to look to someone like Pochechino or maybe Rafa Benitez, with the owners we have we have to aim big, I think they’ll try and save face and stick with Smith but surely he has to give them something before the end of this season. If we finish with less than 32 points it could get very nasty.There's a bit of a gap between those two but it absolutely must be someone of at least Benitez's level. No more has beens, never was-es, or shots in the dark.Benitez has Championship experience if/when the worst happens: he got Newcastle back up at the first time of asking I think a lot of people are attracted by Benitez's name. He plays the type of incredibly defensive football which if served up by an English manager would have many posters on here building the gallows in no time. A lot of people were attracted by Dean Smith being a Villa fan.
Quote from: Behind Bluenose Lines on March 10, 2020, 12:12:44 PMQuote from: hilts_coolerking on March 10, 2020, 11:55:51 AMQuote from: tony scott on March 10, 2020, 11:53:45 AMWe have to look to someone like Pochechino or maybe Rafa Benitez, with the owners we have we have to aim big, I think they’ll try and save face and stick with Smith but surely he has to give them something before the end of this season. If we finish with less than 32 points it could get very nasty.There's a bit of a gap between those two but it absolutely must be someone of at least Benitez's level. No more has beens, never was-es, or shots in the dark.Benitez has Championship experience if/when the worst happens: he got Newcastle back up at the first time of asking I think a lot of people are attracted by Benitez's name. He plays the type of incredibly defensive football which if served up by an English manager would have many posters on here building the gallows in no time.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on March 10, 2020, 11:55:51 AMQuote from: tony scott on March 10, 2020, 11:53:45 AMWe have to look to someone like Pochechino or maybe Rafa Benitez, with the owners we have we have to aim big, I think they’ll try and save face and stick with Smith but surely he has to give them something before the end of this season. If we finish with less than 32 points it could get very nasty.There's a bit of a gap between those two but it absolutely must be someone of at least Benitez's level. No more has beens, never was-es, or shots in the dark.Benitez has Championship experience if/when the worst happens: he got Newcastle back up at the first time of asking
Quote from: tony scott on March 10, 2020, 11:53:45 AMWe have to look to someone like Pochechino or maybe Rafa Benitez, with the owners we have we have to aim big, I think they’ll try and save face and stick with Smith but surely he has to give them something before the end of this season. If we finish with less than 32 points it could get very nasty.There's a bit of a gap between those two but it absolutely must be someone of at least Benitez's level. No more has beens, never was-es, or shots in the dark.
We have to look to someone like Pochechino or maybe Rafa Benitez, with the owners we have we have to aim big, I think they’ll try and save face and stick with Smith but surely he has to give them something before the end of this season. If we finish with less than 32 points it could get very nasty.
You keep coming up with clever quips but no answers. Which of those will come, get us up next season and kick on from there? Most either wouldn't touch us or have already failed in far less difficult circumstances. And then there's Hughton and Allardyce.
Quote from: chrisw1 on March 10, 2020, 12:58:48 PMYou keep coming up with clever quips but no answers. Which of those will come, get us up next season and kick on from there? Most either wouldn't touch us or have already failed in far less difficult circumstances. And then there's Hughton and Allardyce.Look, if you think Dean Smith is the best manager this club can hope to get under current circumstances then that's your business. Our league position indicates the weakness of that position, but again that's your business. What you're doing is starting with Dean Smith as your answer and the working back from there, ruling out anyone and everyone. Why will Smith gets us up next season and kick on from there? I've seen nothing whatsoever this season to suggest that he will. I genuinely can't see any reason why anyone would think Dean Smith is the best or only man for the job.
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on March 10, 2020, 01:07:15 PMQuote from: chrisw1 on March 10, 2020, 12:58:48 PMYou keep coming up with clever quips but no answers. Which of those will come, get us up next season and kick on from there? Most either wouldn't touch us or have already failed in far less difficult circumstances. And then there's Hughton and Allardyce.Look, if you think Dean Smith is the best manager this club can hope to get under current circumstances then that's your business. Our league position indicates the weakness of that position, but again that's your business. What you're doing is starting with Dean Smith as your answer and the working back from there, ruling out anyone and everyone. Why will Smith gets us up next season and kick on from there? I've seen nothing whatsoever this season to suggest that he will. I genuinely can't see any reason why anyone would think Dean Smith is the best or only man for the job.He did it 9 months ago. He knows the squad and what they are or aren't capable of. It doesn't necessarily make him the only or even the best, but it gives him a pretty good base point.Another manager has to start all over again.
He knows the squad and what they are or aren't capable of. It doesn't necessarily make him the only or even the best, but it gives him a pretty good base point.Another manager has to start all over again.
Yes he got us up, and he'll always get credit for that from me, but he has not kicked us on. On the contrary, with the remaining fixtures we have and with our current form, you have to suspect he'll take us back down. Then, probably shorn of his three best players, he's going to find it harder to get us promoted next time. If and when we do get back up will he kick us on? I don't think so. He's shown his limitations massively this year. I have no problem at all with a better manager starting all over again.
It's finding the better managers we seem to struggle with.
I know what they're not capable of: keeping possession, defending from set pieces, passing to a team mate, and winning games. Getting somebody in who can do something about it rather than spotting the problems would be a big improvement. Smith will sink back into relative obscurity once his brief charade as a Premier League standard manager is over, and my guess is he'll be much the happier for it.