The time is probably not right to sack Smith now but inevitably it is coming sooner or later. Without current events I’d have taken Big Sam all day long and not worried in the slightest if the football was shite if it kept us up. As things stand everything has now changed so it’s totally irrelevant.
Quote from: colin69 on March 13, 2020, 08:16:43 PMThe time is probably not right to sack Smith now but inevitably it is coming sooner or later. Without current events I’d have taken Big Sam all day long and not worried in the slightest if the football was shite if it kept us up. As things stand everything has now changed so it’s totally irrelevant.Prior to the crisis I would have taken Big Sam. And, for two seasons. If ever a club needed a year or two of being a boring, mid-table outfit it's us. it is TEN YEARS since we were a stable, safe, mid-table club. It would be amazing if we could be a 42-45 points a season side for a season or two and then make the next leap. Now, however, we shouldn't do anything until things become clearer. If the season gets back under-way in a month- the air will be a lot clearer and things may shake-out a bit differently.
Quote from: Chris Smith on March 13, 2020, 02:39:35 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2020, 02:15:44 PMQuote from: Ads on March 11, 2020, 10:07:29 AMFat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season. Right now I would happily take boring our way to 10th or 11th. After that, once we are settled in with our squad deeper with more hardened PL level players bring in someone to push us on again. And as an aside, I actually don't think his sides were as boring as it made out. This is the same bloke who had a number of talented and exciting players while at Bolton. Believe me in a perfect world I'd never be advocating for boring and 10th, but short of Nuno leaving Wolves with Mendes or someone else truly outstanding that could address the current situation I'd take safety and becoming established again as the first goal.Bolton was a long time ago, his reputation for dull football has grown with every job since the. If we do end up deciding to make a change why on earth should we settle for a tired and unimaginative appointment like that?It amazes me how many fall into the Fat Sam line when trouble is brewing. I don’t get it. I’m sure they would soon all be on the internet grumbling how terrible we are to watch.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2020, 02:15:44 PMQuote from: Ads on March 11, 2020, 10:07:29 AMFat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season. Right now I would happily take boring our way to 10th or 11th. After that, once we are settled in with our squad deeper with more hardened PL level players bring in someone to push us on again. And as an aside, I actually don't think his sides were as boring as it made out. This is the same bloke who had a number of talented and exciting players while at Bolton. Believe me in a perfect world I'd never be advocating for boring and 10th, but short of Nuno leaving Wolves with Mendes or someone else truly outstanding that could address the current situation I'd take safety and becoming established again as the first goal.Bolton was a long time ago, his reputation for dull football has grown with every job since the. If we do end up deciding to make a change why on earth should we settle for a tired and unimaginative appointment like that?
Quote from: Ads on March 11, 2020, 10:07:29 AMFat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season. Right now I would happily take boring our way to 10th or 11th. After that, once we are settled in with our squad deeper with more hardened PL level players bring in someone to push us on again. And as an aside, I actually don't think his sides were as boring as it made out. This is the same bloke who had a number of talented and exciting players while at Bolton. Believe me in a perfect world I'd never be advocating for boring and 10th, but short of Nuno leaving Wolves with Mendes or someone else truly outstanding that could address the current situation I'd take safety and becoming established again as the first goal.
Fat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season.
Quote from: Ian J on March 13, 2020, 07:41:20 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on March 13, 2020, 02:39:35 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2020, 02:15:44 PMQuote from: Ads on March 11, 2020, 10:07:29 AMFat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season. Right now I would happily take boring our way to 10th or 11th. After that, once we are settled in with our squad deeper with more hardened PL level players bring in someone to push us on again. And as an aside, I actually don't think his sides were as boring as it made out. This is the same bloke who had a number of talented and exciting players while at Bolton. Believe me in a perfect world I'd never be advocating for boring and 10th, but short of Nuno leaving Wolves with Mendes or someone else truly outstanding that could address the current situation I'd take safety and becoming established again as the first goal.Bolton was a long time ago, his reputation for dull football has grown with every job since the. If we do end up deciding to make a change why on earth should we settle for a tired and unimaginative appointment like that?It amazes me how many fall into the Fat Sam line when trouble is brewing. I don’t get it. I’m sure they would soon all be on the internet grumbling how terrible we are to watch.Thing is I think he'd provide us the bare minimum which quite frankly is all that we would need. Watford recruited Pearson until the end of the season. They change managers like any one of us changes socks. If they stay what's that worth to them versus relegation? For us it's even more damaging so, do I puke a little into my mouth suggesting a rescue merchant like Allardyce? If course. But all I give a fuck about is staying up, and he'd be available and give us a way better chance of getting over the line than Smith. But if there's someone better, who's available and would come to a club in the bottom 3 of the PL then let's get him. We all thought for Lyon boss Remi Garde might have been that bloke last time around. What a disaster that turned out to be.
Dean has an open goal opportunity to re-enforce his coaching staff. Will he?
Quote from: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2020, 10:11:27 PMQuote from: Ian J on March 13, 2020, 07:41:20 PMQuote from: Chris Smith on March 13, 2020, 02:39:35 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on March 13, 2020, 02:15:44 PMQuote from: Ads on March 11, 2020, 10:07:29 AMFat Sam. Keep us up and bore our way to 11th or 10th.Imagine a season that is just boring. When was the last one we had where we weren't trying to stop up, trying to get promoted, trying for Champions League or not sacking managers left right and centre?It must have been O'Neill's first season. Right now I would happily take boring our way to 10th or 11th. After that, once we are settled in with our squad deeper with more hardened PL level players bring in someone to push us on again. And as an aside, I actually don't think his sides were as boring as it made out. This is the same bloke who had a number of talented and exciting players while at Bolton. Believe me in a perfect world I'd never be advocating for boring and 10th, but short of Nuno leaving Wolves with Mendes or someone else truly outstanding that could address the current situation I'd take safety and becoming established again as the first goal.Bolton was a long time ago, his reputation for dull football has grown with every job since the. If we do end up deciding to make a change why on earth should we settle for a tired and unimaginative appointment like that?It amazes me how many fall into the Fat Sam line when trouble is brewing. I don’t get it. I’m sure they would soon all be on the internet grumbling how terrible we are to watch.Thing is I think he'd provide us the bare minimum which quite frankly is all that we would need. Watford recruited Pearson until the end of the season. They change managers like any one of us changes socks. If they stay what's that worth to them versus relegation? For us it's even more damaging so, do I puke a little into my mouth suggesting a rescue merchant like Allardyce? If course. But all I give a fuck about is staying up, and he'd be available and give us a way better chance of getting over the line than Smith. But if there's someone better, who's available and would come to a club in the bottom 3 of the PL then let's get him. We all thought for Lyon boss Remi Garde might have been that bloke last time around. What a disaster that turned out to be.I know we didn’t see eye to eye earlier in the season when I dared to slag off Jack but I agree 100% with this.
I despair at the clamour of some fans for the likes of Allardyce as our manager I really do. We have had ten years of “Fat Sams” and look where we are!!! He would be a truly awful appointment and YES I would rather go down then have this man in charge of my club. Are fans suggesting that he’s our limit??? Him and all the other dinosaurs??? That we are a fat Sam club? Not for me I’m afraid, I’m a villa fan till I die and long after any manager has been and gone but I won’t be visiting Villa Park if this man is ever in charge
The decades I've spent at Villa Park with good and not so good managers not once did it even occur to me to stay away because I didn't like the manager.