How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[Drummond]

My gut feeling is that although I've got my ticket for Man Utd, I may well not get to go as I think a lockdown is coming.

[Dave]

With all these postponements, is our FA Cup game against Liverpool the only high-profile time that the game has been forced to go ahead even with an entire squad unavailable?

[NeilH]

My gut feeling is that although I've got my ticket for Man Utd, I may well not get to go as I think a lockdown is coming.

Partial lockdown in NL was extended yesterday into the new year and there is no sign of it being lifted anytime soon - All sports venues remain closed and football is being played behind closed doors.

[Demitri_C]

My gut feeling is that although I've got my ticket for Man Utd, I may well not get to go as I think a lockdown is coming.

There wont be another lockdown.

Unless we see 1000s of deaths daily its just not gonna happen and to be honest why should we go in another lockdown?

Most of the population is vaccinated now so if your still locking us down your giving the impression the vaccine doesnt work.

[Risso]

I'm guessing that this proves that most footballers aren't suitably jabbed then.

Come on Risso - Surely you know you can still get it after being jabbed? Likely to be milder or asymptomatic, but footballers will be testing every day. It doesn’t matter whether you actually get ill or not, for everyone, not just footballers, if you test positive you don’t go to work!

Of course I do. It’s unusual for it to sweep through adults like this though in such numbers if they vaccinated.

Not really. Two jabs don’t offer much protection against Omicron due to the multiple mutations and footballers are in the age group that only qualified for the booster yesterday.

You're assuming they all have the Omicron variant.

[Risso]

Having the vaccine reduces its ability to infect and therefore to reinfect.
So it does help stop the spread to others.

A report on R5L this morning said that tests from Israel show that viral loads in vaccinated people with the virus are much lower than those in people who are unvaccinated. So if you're vaccinated, you either spread it less or not at all.

[Ad@m]

Thank the lord that we don't live in other parts of Europe, where you are fined for refusing the jab or are in lock down and cannot attend sporting events etc...

You have a choice either have the jabs or not the choice is yours?

You can chose not to have the jabs, but you then have to live with the restrictions that that brings. I really don't see an issue with this.

Exactly. You can choose to be a danger to others, but you must respect their right to be protected from that danger.

+1 from me. That's one of the big misconceptions about the whole free speech / freedom of choice thing - yeah, you have a right to say things or do things, but this is allowable because you have the mitigations. In the case of vaccines, the choice is get vaccinated *or* have tight restrictions. It's not to do nothing.



Ads - the Big Pharma comment made me laugh.

Why do people think that having the vaccine stops you from spreading the virus to others? My understanding is that it doesn't. Otherwise why are they still so worried when many people have been vaccinated. Vaccination only protects yourself and lessens the chance of hospitalisation. Those not vaccinated can't be accused of being selfish.

I have had my 3 jabs by the way.

How many times do we have to go through this?!?!

[Des Little]

This thread is like the pandemic. Never ending.

[Demitri_C]

I might have missed this but how do they know if you have the omicron variant and not the delta or another? How will the test tell you whoch bariant you have?

[WarszaVillan]

Thank the lord that we don't live in other parts of Europe, where you are fined for refusing the jab or are in lock down and cannot attend sporting events etc...

You have a choice either have the jabs or not the choice is yours?

You can chose not to have the jabs, but you then have to live with the restrictions that that brings. I really don't see an issue with this.

Exactly. You can choose to be a danger to others, but you must respect their right to be protected from that danger.

+1 from me. That's one of the big misconceptions about the whole free speech / freedom of choice thing - yeah, you have a right to say things or do things, but this is allowable because you have the mitigations. In the case of vaccines, the choice is get vaccinated *or* have tight restrictions. It's not to do nothing.



Ads - the Big Pharma comment made me laugh.

Why do people think that having the vaccine stops you from spreading the virus to others? My understanding is that it doesn't. Otherwise why are they still so worried when many people have been vaccinated. Vaccination only protects yourself and lessens the chance of hospitalisation. Those not vaccinated can't be accused of being selfish.

I have had my 3 jabs by the way.

How many times do we have to go through this?!?!

Vaccines reduce the possibility of passing on the virus to some extent but that's all. Look at the numbers at the moment with most of the adult population vaxed - it is still spreading quickly. Where have vaccine passports actually succeeded in bringing down cases, I can't think of any example in the world. The problem is that it gives the impression that vaxed people are safe and can interact normally, which unfortunately isn't true. It's technological theatre.

[Chris Smith]

I'm guessing that this proves that most footballers aren't suitably jabbed then.

Come on Risso - Surely you know you can still get it after being jabbed? Likely to be milder or asymptomatic, but footballers will be testing every day. It doesn’t matter whether you actually get ill or not, for everyone, not just footballers, if you test positive you don’t go to work!

Of course I do. It’s unusual for it to sweep through adults like this though in such numbers if they vaccinated.

Not really. Two jabs don’t offer much protection against Omicron due to the multiple mutations and footballers are in the age group that only qualified for the booster yesterday.

You're assuming they all have the Omicron variant.

True, but a spate of infections across a few clubs and games postponed is unusual in recent months so it’s it’s not a great leap to think it might be linked to a more transmissible variant.

[Dave]

I might have missed this but how do they know if you have the omicron variant and not the delta or another? How will the test tell you whoch bariant you have?

It won't tell you. It'll tell the people processing the tests.

[Des Little]

At what point do we return to games played behind closed doors do we reckon?

[Exeter 77]

At what point do we return to games played behind closed doors do we reckon?

At a guess - FA Cup 3rd round weekend.

[Ads]

At what point do we return to games played behind closed doors do we reckon?

We won't.