How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[WassallVillain]

In all honesty if I was in a child raising age group I would think twice. The testing regime was excellent but short and as such no one knows if there will be any long term issues.   I had that conversation with my son and his wife and at the end of the day they went ahead and got vaccinated. Only time will tell.

May I ask why being of child raising age is a factor?

Because we can’t possibly know if there are any long term affects to fertility or birth defects.  The trials were not long enough, understandably in the circumstances, to rule such things out. So I would not condemn anyone in those circumstances deciding to wait a while.

[GordonCowansisthegreatest]

Being dead might cause a few problems though!

[Risso]

Because we can’t possibly know if there are any long term affects to fertility or birth defects.  The trials were not long enough, understandably in the circumstances, to rule such things out. So I would not condemn anyone in those circumstances deciding to wait a while.

Well I realise it's a small sample, but my wife had our baby after having had the vaccine, and she was OK and our son is absolutely perfect. Friends of ours are due anyday now, and their baby was conceived after she had the first vaccine, so there are no obvious problems.

[Drummond]

Jürgen Klopp launched an attack on people who refuse coronavirus vaccinations by comparing them to drink-drivers and saying they are to blame if others catch Covid from them.

The Liverpool manager accused the anti-vaccination movement of ignoring the experts and endangering others while making disingenuous claims about a loss of freedom to justify their stance.

Comparing them to drink drivers is absolutely ridiculous.  What a imbecile klopp is.

What's different in principle?

Anti-vaxxers do something for selfish reasons that puts others at greater risk. Just like drink drivers.

I dont agree. Drink driving is reckless irresponsible and dangerous. You could kill multiple  people. A non vaccinated person who be someone who works from home, doesnt interact with many, takes a LFT before they see people. That is not the same for me at all.

If the vaccine 100% stopped passing on the virus then i woukd say yes its massively reckless but it doesnt just protects you from getting seriously ill from covid

This is very poor logic - you must see it, surely?

You say “if the vaccine 100% stopped passing on the virus then I would say yes it’s massively reckless”.

The vaccine is very effective at stopping transmission - people are 3 times less likely to catch it after being double vaccinated:
 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/amp/

(And of those who catch it, they are less likely to have serious symptoms and therefore less likely to spread it).

How can you argue that not being vaccinated if it stopped transmission by 100% is massively reckless, but choosing not to be vaccinated to stop transmission by about 70% is of no benefit (you said it “just stops you getting seriously ill”?

This is not rocket science, the evidence is in the public domain if you want to check, the entire medical profession worldwide has pretty much a single view here, and yet you are perfectly happy coming on to forums and spouting opinionated nonsense that endangers lives?

I dont agree how is that a poor logic?

Comparing them to drink drivers is more poorer in my view. Its not the same at all.

Hmmm.

How about a drink driver who only does so on their own land? They aren't at risk of killing anyone but themselves. That would be a better comparison with the unvaccinated person who doesn't go out and see anyone.

Anyone who does go out, and won't get vaccinated, is a twonk.

[WassallVillain]

Because we can’t possibly know if there are any long term affects to fertility or birth defects.  The trials were not long enough, understandably in the circumstances, to rule such things out. So I would not condemn anyone in those circumstances deciding to wait a while.

Well I realise it's a small sample, but my wife had our baby after having had the vaccine, and she was OK and our son is absolutely perfect. Friends of ours are due anyday now, and their baby was conceived after she had the first vaccine, so there are no obvious problems.

Great to hear that.   I hope that is the case going forward for all the young people (<30) who will have only been jabbed from May onwards.   Some high level publicity on good news like you have may help those reticent to take the vaccine for the reasons mentioned to get on and get it done. Especially Footballers who can influence so many.

[Demitri_C]

Because we can’t possibly know if there are any long term affects to fertility or birth defects.  The trials were not long enough, understandably in the circumstances, to rule such things out. So I would not condemn anyone in those circumstances deciding to wait a while.

Well I realise it's a small sample, but my wife had our baby after having had the vaccine, and she was OK and our son is absolutely perfect. Friends of ours are due anyday now, and their baby was conceived after she had the first vaccine, so there are no obvious problems.

Thats good to hear mate. My missus has had both but this did worry her.  Congratulations on the birth of your son

[WarszaVillan]

This from Ashley Preece on Twitter: #avfc announce that Covid-19 vaccination spot checks will now take place, starting at tomorrow's match vs Wolves. Fans attending must have a Covid status, either a valid NHS pass, be fully vaccinated or have a negative Covid test in past 48 hours. No fan will be refused entry.

Not sure what the purpose of checks are if they can't deny people entry (which I assume they have no legal right to do) - probably just to encourage people to comply.

[Exeter 77]

It seems Ben Mee has tested positive at Burnley. But will it keep him out for 18 months and all but destroy his career?

[Risso]

It seems Ben Mee has tested positive at Burnley. But will it keep him out for 18 months and all but destroy his career?

Let's hope so.

[Drummond]

It seems Ben Mee has tested positive at Burnley. But will it keep him out for 18 months and all but destroy his career?

Let's hope so.

The first case of very, very long covid hopefully.

[London Villan]

The irony… asked to show my covid pass by a member of staff who didnt have one.

[SoccerHQ]

Hate to bump this thread but with face masks become mandatory due to the new strain again in shops and public transport I get the feeling BCD matches going to become a thing at some stage of this season.

[Steve67]

Hate to bump this thread but with face masks become mandatory due to the new strain again in shops and public transport I get the feeling BCD matches going to become a thing at some stage of this season.

Already a couple of cases of the new strain in the country.  I suspect you may be right, much as I'd hate that to happen.

[SoccerHQ]

Haven't been since Brentford late August so just wondered how enforced covid passes are for last few home games.

Guess the clubs will be asked to step up checks for xmas period.

In two minds whether to go to Burnley game now. Will see how things play out in next few weeks but cases only going to rise.

[Ad@m]

I'm yet to be asked to show a covid pass at the Villa despite going to every home game.