How much will Coronavirus (COVID-19) impact Aston Villa's season?

[WarszaVillan]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

I'm well aware, thank you. I'm sure I'd probably be fine with my seemingly unbeatable immune system allied to my double jab. Probably very much unlike someone that couldn't have the jab on medical grounds. I was disagreeing with your opinion that we football supporters should become involved in mass protests about it.

Your welcome 😉

So we agree it wont make a difference about catching covid whether you been vaccinated or not.

I for one dont support discrimination. We are a democratic country after all!

If the club stop people coming in with guns and knives, it isn't "discrimination", it is protecting other fans. Just as fans should be protected from selfish twats who refuse to get vaccinated and put others at risk.

The Premier League should suspend, without pay, any player or club staff member that refuses to get vaccinated and ban twats who haven't been vaccinated from attending. Bar those who are underage and haven't been offered the jab and those with a legitimate medical reason, of course.

The problem with this is that it then gives the impression that those who are vaccinated can act as they wish and there is no problem anymore. Unfortunately the fact is that although you are less likely to be infected if vaccinated, you are just as likely to pass it on  Cases are rising very quickly in some countries that have the highest level of vaccination and the efficacy of vaccinations seems to be decreasing. This time last summer there was a handful of daily deaths in the UK, now it averages around 100 and we are still in the summer when schools are closed, people are outside, etc. Anyone who is clinically vulnerable has to take a huge risk just to go to Villa Park. I am fully supportive of vaccinations and am vaxed myself, but just banning non-vaxed people from events won't solve the problem although it may make us feel better.

[Richard E]

I don't think the Premier League has the power to suspend people without pay, especially club staff.

[Skerra]

No queues to speak of when going through the turnstiles. However, the concourse was absolutely heaving, especially at half time. Decided to skip my coffee as otherwise I’d probably have missed most of the second half. Seems they have relegated the coffee stand into a corner with one person taking your order and one other person making the drinks. Absolute madness as it makes the queue far too long and, being into a tightly packed area. They really need a re-think on this.

[cdbearsfan]

I don't think the Premier League has the power to suspend people without pay, especially club staff.

I meant staff as in coaches, physios, etc. Imagine they would come under the Premier League's remit. If they give advance notice so that people have time to get jabbed, I can't see how anyone could object.

[placeforparks]

i did feel uncomfortable on the concourse of the lower holte. as others have said, the kiosks seemed overwhelmed.

the whole not being able to have a beer in the stand doesn't help either, that legislation should be reviewed given the times we are in, and the fact that the matchday experience is very different from nearly 40 years ago when it was brought in.

[artvandelay]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

You're right it doesn't 'stop' passing it on, but only in the same way at a condom or the pill don't 'stop' pregnancy, yet we'd all agree contraception is key to avoiding an unwanted pregnancy! It reduces the chances of transmission massively, and I'd be delighted if we had a vaccine mandate in the stadium, with provision for anyone medically unable to take it with a signed certificate from a doctor stating as much.

[ChicagoLion]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

But it significantly reduces transmission.
So people who decide not to be vaccinated should not expect to endanger others.

[Demitri_C]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

I'm well aware, thank you. I'm sure I'd probably be fine with my seemingly unbeatable immune system allied to my double jab. Probably very much unlike someone that couldn't have the jab on medical grounds. I was disagreeing with your opinion that we football supporters should become involved in mass protests about it.

Your welcome 😉

So we agree it wont make a difference about catching covid whether you been vaccinated or not.

I for one dont support discrimination. We are a democratic country after all!

If the club stop people coming in with guns and knives, it isn't "discrimination", it is protecting other fans. Just as fans should be protected from selfish twats who refuse to get vaccinated and put others at risk.

The Premier League should suspend, without pay, any player or club staff member that refuses to get the jab and ban twats who haven't been vaccinated from attending as spectators. With the exception of those who are underage and haven't been offered the jab and people with a legitimate medical reason, of course.

It makes no difference to your safety whether they been vaccinated or not.  You can still get it from someone vaccinated  so if your that worried you shouldnt go to games period.

And your example about guns and knives is ridiculous  im sorey to say

[Demitri_C]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

But it significantly reduces transmission.
So people who decide not to be vaccinated should not expect to endanger others.

Not sure about that mate. They havent said it significantly reduces transmission just that your better protected

[cdbearsfan]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

I'm well aware, thank you. I'm sure I'd probably be fine with my seemingly unbeatable immune system allied to my double jab. Probably very much unlike someone that couldn't have the jab on medical grounds. I was disagreeing with your opinion that we football supporters should become involved in mass protests about it.

Your welcome 😉

So we agree it wont make a difference about catching covid whether you been vaccinated or not.

I for one dont support discrimination. We are a democratic country after all!

If the club stop people coming in with guns and knives, it isn't "discrimination", it is protecting other fans. Just as fans should be protected from selfish twats who refuse to get vaccinated and put others at risk.

The Premier League should suspend, without pay, any player or club staff member that refuses to get the jab and ban twats who haven't been vaccinated from attending as spectators. With the exception of those who are underage and haven't been offered the jab and people with a legitimate medical reason, of course.

It makes no difference to your safety whether they been vaccinated or not.  You can still get it from someone vaccinated  so if your that worried you shouldnt go to games period.

And your example about guns and knives is ridiculous  im sorey to say

It makes a huge difference. Vaccinated people are far less likely to spread the disease.

The vast majority of your posting history is ridiculous I'm "sorey" to say.

You've yet to come out with a valid reason why an anti-vaxx twat should be allowed in other than your nonsensical "discrimination" claim.

[Richard E]

Not wanting to have a vaccination (unless the objection is for a medical reason) is highly unlikely to amount to a "protected characteristic" for the purposes of the Equality Act 2010. 

[Demitri_C]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

I'm well aware, thank you. I'm sure I'd probably be fine with my seemingly unbeatable immune system allied to my double jab. Probably very much unlike someone that couldn't have the jab on medical grounds. I was disagreeing with your opinion that we football supporters should become involved in mass protests about it.

Your welcome 😉

So we agree it wont make a difference about catching covid whether you been vaccinated or not.

I for one dont support discrimination. We are a democratic country after all!

If the club stop people coming in with guns and knives, it isn't "discrimination", it is protecting other fans. Just as fans should be protected from selfish twats who refuse to get vaccinated and put others at risk.

The Premier League should suspend, without pay, any player or club staff member that refuses to get the jab and ban twats who haven't been vaccinated from attending as spectators. With the exception of those who are underage and haven't been offered the jab and people with a legitimate medical reason, of course.

It makes no difference to your safety whether they been vaccinated or not.  You can still get it from someone vaccinated  so if your that worried you shouldnt go to games period.

And your example about guns and knives is ridiculous  im sorey to say

It makes a huge difference. Vaccinated people are far less likely to spread the disease.

The vast majority of your posting history is ridiculous I'm "sorey" to say.

You've yet to come out with a valid reason why an anti-vaxx twat should be allowed in other than your nonsensical "discrimination" claim.

Not as ridiculous as comparing an anti vaxxer to someone that comes in with a knife or gun.

Can you produce scientific evidence to support your claim that your more likely to catch it off a anti vaxxer as opposed to someone who has been vaccinated?

Losing the debate clearly as you have to throw lame insults in

[Ger Regan]

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/fully-vaccinated-people.html

A growing body of evidence indicates that people fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna) are less likely than unvaccinated persons to acquire SARS-CoV-2 or to transmit it to others. However, the risk for SARS-CoV-2 breakthrough infection in fully vaccinated people cannot be completely eliminated as long as there is continued community transmission of the virus.

[Risso]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

But it significantly reduces transmission.
So people who decide not to be vaccinated should not expect to endanger others.

Not sure about that mate. They havent said it significantly reduces transmission just that your better protected

Lots of studies have shown that transmission is lower in vaccinated people. Here's one: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717

[cdbearsfan]

You are aware you can catch it off someone vaccinated too right? So you could be sitting next to bob who hasnt been vaccinated or jill who has and you could get it off jill.

The point of the vaccine is to stop you from getting very sick. It doesnt unfortunately stop passing it on. So for me i have no issue with someone non vaccinated being allowed in.

I'm well aware, thank you. I'm sure I'd probably be fine with my seemingly unbeatable immune system allied to my double jab. Probably very much unlike someone that couldn't have the jab on medical grounds. I was disagreeing with your opinion that we football supporters should become involved in mass protests about it.

Your welcome 😉

So we agree it wont make a difference about catching covid whether you been vaccinated or not.

I for one dont support discrimination. We are a democratic country after all!

If the club stop people coming in with guns and knives, it isn't "discrimination", it is protecting other fans. Just as fans should be protected from selfish twats who refuse to get vaccinated and put others at risk.

The Premier League should suspend, without pay, any player or club staff member that refuses to get the jab and ban twats who haven't been vaccinated from attending as spectators. With the exception of those who are underage and haven't been offered the jab and people with a legitimate medical reason, of course.

It makes no difference to your safety whether they been vaccinated or not.  You can still get it from someone vaccinated  so if your that worried you shouldnt go to games period.

And your example about guns and knives is ridiculous  im sorey to say

It makes a huge difference. Vaccinated people are far less likely to spread the disease.

The vast majority of your posting history is ridiculous I'm "sorey" to say.

You've yet to come out with a valid reason why an anti-vaxx twat should be allowed in other than your nonsensical "discrimination" claim.

Not as ridiculous as comparing an anti vaxxer to someone that comes in with a knife or gun.

Can you produce scientific evidence to support your claim that your more likely to catch it off a anti vaxxer as opposed to someone who has been vaccinated?

Losing the debate clearly as you have to throw lame insults in

I was responding in kind. There is no "debate". Anti-vaxxers are idiots. It's like a "debate" with a Flat Earther.

You still haven't provided a single reason why the club shouldn't prevent dangerous idiots getting tickets.