Bournemouth v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[KRS]

Massively disappointed with the performance and obviously the result. It's going to the wire and it's hard to see where our next win is going to come from, but one thing for sure is that we're going to need to start picking up points from teams in the top half if we're going to stay up this season.

[dorsetvillian]

So many basic mistakes from the team. In this league they get punished. There was a period at the beginning of the second half when in a space of 2 or 3 minutes we must have made 20 errors  in attempting to clear the ball. Simply not good enough.

[auntiesledd]

I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.

MOTD showed that their second goal should not have counted due to the obvious push on the edge of OUR box, and that we should have had a penalty for the punch on Engels .

You're absolutely right on both counts, but we didn't get either decision & continued to defend like a half-cut pub team. I dread to think what would have happened if JG hadn't been on the park - as we would've offered nothing going forward either. As I've already attested: if we continue to play in such a disorganised, half-hearted & thoroughly inadequate way (as we have on far too many occasions this season) - we'll inevitably be saying "tarra a bit" to the Prem & another Summer of upheaval & loss of our playing assets. Frankly, the club will only have themselves to blame.

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I think part if the reason we improved second half is that we had a defender in Engels who had the ability to pass to a blue shirt.

It was very frustrating seeing Hause, not under any pressure, take 3 or 4 touches and decide to give the ball away. The system of 3 at the back is reliant on possession and he needs dropping.

[Clampy]

Such a poor result after the euphoria of getting to a cup final. Managed to watch the majority of it and we could have got something out of the game but we can't keep going behind and expect to come back, it's not going to happen every week.
The lousy defending cost us and I think it's those kind of games where someone like Drinkwater is hopefully going to come in and do a job for us. All in all, a massive disappointment.

[stevo_st]

I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.

MOTD showed that their second goal should not have counted due to the obvious push on the edge of OUR box, and that we should have had a penalty for the punch on Engels .

You're absolutely right on both counts, but we didn't get either decision & continued to defend like a half-cut pub team. I dread to think what would have happened if JG hadn't been on the park - as we would've offered nothing going forward either. As I've already attested: if we continue to play in such a disorganised, half-hearted & thoroughly inadequate way (as we have on far too many occasions this season) - we'll inevitably be saying "tarra a bit" to the Prem & another Summer of upheaval & loss of our playing assets. Frankly, the club will only have themselves to blame.

Can’t complain about VAR for those two decisions.
IF Bournemouth had scored directly on the break after the ref missed the ‘foul’, then VAR could have reviewed, as soon as they get their free kick - ability to review early infringements in the build up to the goal is gone.

With the punch to the head, if he had kept the ball in play, and not headed over then I think it would have been easier for VAR to see it as a clear and obvious error.
You see a few when plays get ‘taken out’ a bit after shooting and they are never given.
I don’t think he was put off / missed as a result of the contact

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Is that what the rules say? Like when Gerard tried to break Boatengs leg, the referee had to consider that Geroge had got his pass off when giving Slippy G a red card?

Engels was fouled, it was a penalty, if it was an outfield player, he'd have been sent off. Wilson was booked for elbows later on, after Hause had cleared a ball.

Two very poor refereeing errors had a significant outcome on the game.

[Nastylee]

The more I see the goals, the more I think Pepe has to look in the mirror. Think Nyland saves the first and the second is an awful parry into the danger zone.

[The Edge]

I had the game on with 2 commentators who sounded very pro Bournemouth. On the keeper one they both said definite penalty as the keeper clearly and deliberately punched Engels in the head AFTER the ball had gone. Interestingly one of them said it would have been on his mind that when Samatta got in first for his goal that the keeper was upset to have not "laid a glove on him" so he "wasn't going to allow that to happen twice." In my view it was a deliberate act. I'm convinced it was a stonewall pen and possibly a0 straight red for violent conduct.

[MalcolmP]

The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.

so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.

How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?

grealish is shit comment doesn't deserve an ounce of respect the guy is a xxxx

Read it again - I don't think that is what he said. He criticized Smith for playing Grealish too deep and for Smith having to answer "that garbage today". You are reading it as him saying Grealish was garbage.

before playing too deep comment which I agree wit
after trez came on, 2 paragraphs above he said Grealish was shit. I am all for reasoned debate and opinions but that was quite clearly a ridiculous comment.anybody who watched the game knows that he was our best player by a mile and that is not an opinion it is a FACT.

[baddowvillans]

So at Villa Park their player plays the ball and it's clearly going out of play, our goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict Penalty.  Our player plays the ball, again going out of play, their goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict No Penalty!  Hmmmmmn

[old man villa fan]

So at Villa Park their player plays the ball and it's clearly going out of play, our goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict Penalty.  Our player plays the ball, again going out of play, their goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict No Penalty!  Hmmmmmn

The only thing I would say is that yesterday the ball was not going out of play and it makes it even worse.

[aj2k77]

Let's not whine, the problems lay closer to home than penalty complaints. We've conceded nearly 50 goals in 25 games. That's abysmal.

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People can point out how sloppy we were in possession at the back and how lackadaisical we were in clearing the ball and also point out two decisions that had a significant impact on the game.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Fair enough with the pen.

The other decision was rubbish though. I don't care if VAR was unable to review it because play had moved onto the next phase, it was right in front of the referee and was a clear foul. The free kick they scored from was less obvious a push, and only came about as a direct result of the quick break allowed by he non-awarded free kick. 1-0 at half time would have been more recoverable .