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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2020, 04:54:07 PM
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Bollocks.
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To put it as simply as I can - not fucking good enough. From anyone, frankly.
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Absolute garbage, nothing like good enough, Dean.
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We scored a headed goal. First Tanzanian player to play in the PL and score will be a stat worth recalling in some far off irrelevant trivia night at a pub.
Everything else was pretty shit.
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We got lucky with results elsewhere. Giving up 6 points to Bournemouth is shite. If we stay up, Deano has to be potted.
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Down I think.
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Doesn't matter how shit the opposition are, give them a two goal start thanks to wank defending and you're going to struggle. A competent defensive performance and we win a piece of piss.
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That’s a really poor result.
Dreadful first half killed us and then could only muster one goal against 10 men for 40 mins.
Sama getting a goal is the only positive.
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At least we are not in the bottom 3. That’s about all you can say.
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Oh and doing it twice to the same shit team is criminal.
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We have too many players who are inconsistent. Nakamba. Hause. Liuz. AEG. Gilbert in particular. It's going to go to the wire this season.
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Davis the only positive today.
Him and Samatta to start against Spurs
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This is the first time I’ve properly thought we’re going down now, there’s no consistency in us whatsoever.
Same stuff: appalling in possession, gifting the opposition set pieces, wasting our set pieces, can’t play against 10 men, I could go on. To do that in such an important game is baffling and infuriating.
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We are rubbish away, and never beat one of the top teams home or away. Pretty much all our remaining home games are against top teams. We are in all kinds of shite.
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First rule you have to match the opposition for desire.
We did not do that and even when there was a goal in it we did not have a fucking clue.
Reina massively at fault for the second.
Don’t know how you can we expect to win games with Hause and our midfield 2.
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Villa do a classic Villa. Bloody typical.
Meh.
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There was one game we had to win this week and it wasn't a League Cup tie. This guy is going to take us down.
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That was all about desire and nothing to do with ability.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
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Doesn't matter how shit the opposition are, give them a two goal start thanks to wank defending and you're going to struggle. A competent defensive performance and we win a piece of piss.
That’s just it. We don’t just drop a bit below par, had we done that we might have got a result, we fall through the floor. It happens for too frequently and Dean has to sort it out or we will be relegated. Today is nowhere near good enough.
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Well that was desperately disappointing, and a great opportunity lost. I'm off out now for few pints and a take away curry.
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Completely unacceptable first half, we were miles off. Whether that was cup I don't know but second to most balls and couldn't cope with Bournemouth's quick counters at all which lead to the FKs for the goals. Mings with his worst game of the season didn't help.
Ironically the sending off made the game look closer. We had decent spell around the goal but hardly a decent chance in last 10 minutes with it all fizzling out.
Could be a really damaging defeat for the run in. Losing home and away to Bournemouth team with one win in three months is not a good luck.
At least elsewhere helped. West Ham below us with games away to Man. City and Liverpool to come is excellent and Watford have stopped winning and are blowing leads.
Need to stop being scared of any semi famous team and get something off Spurs. No excuses, time to get points from those type of games as everyone else in the league in bottom half is doing it.
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We have too many players who are inconsistent. Nakamba. Hause. Liuz. AEG. Gilbert in particular. It's going to go to the wire this season.
Hause generally poor, AEG 75%, Luiz 50%, and Fred 25%
Very inconsistent
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We come to that inevitable question again in terms of did we do enough in this transfer window, to make up for the summer window, of course not, the board have decided we've got Deano until the end of this season, that's done and dusted, so all we can do is trust to luck and play each game as they come up and fingers crossed we can survive. Today was abysmal.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
Davis did well.
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Guilbert was totally alone every time he went forward today. Time after time in the second half he was facing three defenders on his own. The rest of the team must think he has coronavirus.
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That was utterly woeful. Too many shit players, constantly giving the ball away.
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I reckon we played well for about 15 minutes of that, which is why we got fuck all out of it. Dodgy at the back, ineffectual in midfield, dreadful passing. Bournemouth are a moderate side but we just didn't do anywhere near enough.
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We need to start coming out of the traps in games. We’re far too often on the back foot straight away.
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We must be improving. At least the 4th time the opposition has gone down to 10 men and for the first time we didn't get much worse and/or concede more. and at least the new guy scored. Rather feeble straws to clutch at, but can't think of much else except the other results went for us eventually.
I didn't see the keeper's punch on Engles but there was a barge on Davis in the box that was not a jot different to the barge by Luiz on Deeney that was given as a pen. Perhaps it's because Davis bounced back up straight away. The lack of consistency from officials is appalling though.
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Out thought by a better manager, out fought by a team with more bottle.
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Its pointless pointing out the weak links, there are at least 5 or 6 of them
Jack is almost a one man team.
This team , showing this lack of passion and intensity will go down.
Closing mIns, Dean looking at his watch and talking to Terry, Howe, punching his fist and urging his team on.
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The defence was miserable today, all of them. Not only in their comedy defending, but in their constantly punting balls either out of play or straight back to the opposition.
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Realistically that was the game we needed points from. Really don't see where the points are gonna come from in the next 5 games... Spurs, Southampton, Sheff United, Leicester and Chelsea. And it shouldn't feel that way at all, however when we can't even look decent against ten man Bournemouth - who, let's face it, are shite - what chance have we against the above?
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We have the worst defence in the league and it shows. Take a bow, John Terry.
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Well that was desperately disappointing, and a great opportunity lost. I'm off out now for few pints and a take away curry.
And then home to the wife?
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Poor today and I only watched the first half but still all to play for as the teams around us look equally shit to me.
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Poor game from Guilbert. Fast asleep when he played Ake onside and generally poor passing throughout.
Tom Heaton's rush of blood in the home game may cost us yet.
Well done, Ally. First of many, I hope.
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Another half of Football away from home when we haven't turned up.
I thought both fullbacks were poor today. Vital they're give us quality and an outlet in this formation but not good enough. Guilbert in particular was shite.
Smith should have hooked Hause after they went down to 10 and brought another midfielder on. Would have been perfect for Hourihane.
They'll simply have to start playing better away from home.
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The defence was miserable today, all of them. Not only in their comedy defending, but in their constantly punting balls either out of play or straight back to the opposition.
Whatever’s gone on with Engels, given how poor Hause has been and the fact we lost a good CB in the window, looks amateurish at this point.
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We need to start coming out of the traps in games. We’re far too often on the back foot straight away.
Ain't that the truth! I honestly can't remember the last time we came out with intent & started on the bleedin' front-foot. It simply HAS to change if we have designs on staying in this league.
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We come to that inevitable question again in terms of did we do enough in this transfer window, to make up for the summer window, of course not, the board have decided we've got Deano until the end of this season, that's done and dusted, so all we can do is trust to luck and play each game as they come up and fingers crossed we can survive. Today was abysmal.
He appear to not be able to motivate the team when in matters in the league and questions have to be asked about training and match preparation.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
Davis did well.
No he didn't. Only a hat trick Thierry Henri-esque in the 37 minutes game time he got would satisfy some of our supporters.
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Another half of Football away from home when we haven't turned up.
I thought both fullbacks were poor today. Vital they're give us quality and an outlet in this formation but not good enough. Guilbert in particular was shite.
Smith should have hooked Hause after they went down to 10 and brought another midfielder on. Would have been perfect for Hourihane.
They'll simply have to start playing better away from home.
Trouble is, Konsa was even worse than Hause first half, and we at least have a right footed replacement for Konsa.
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Hause is a liability.
This 3 4 3 system is not the answer and the Luis Nakamba midfield axis isn’t either.
I think we would be better off kicking corners out for a goal kick,
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Poor today and I only watched the first half but still all to play for as the teams around us look equally shit to me.
Have to say that all of the sides around us have tough games to come.
Its going to the wire.
I can see it now West Ham v Villa winner stays up!
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Poor today and I only watched the first half but still all to play for as the teams around us look equally shit to me.
Watford and West Ham managed 5 goals between them against better teams today.
We can barely put the ball past 10 man Bournemouth.
We look shit in comparison to just about everyone else, save for Norwich perhaps, but even they managed a fucking point away from home today.
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I fear that the championship beckons with a big team upheaval. Wonder if Purslow is planning for next season.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
Davis did well.
No he didn't. Only a hat trick Thierry Henri-esque in the 37 minutes game time he got would satisfy some of our supporters.
I think him scoring once in a while would satisfy most of us.
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The only positive that I can think of is we are a shit team, playing away from home and the other results were not too disastrous.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
The only time we looked threatening was when he was on the pitch.
Apart from that, it's "give it to Jack" and hope he'll deliver.
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Poor today and I only watched the first half but still all to play for as the teams around us look equally shit to me.
Have to say that all of the sides around us have tough games to come.
Its going to the wire.
I can see it now West Ham v Villa winner stays up!
And that’s away so we definitely won’t win.
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Not good enough! 3 points from soton, norwich and watford over xmas. 4 points from brighton, watford and bournemouth are a poor return against fellow strugglers. Our confidence levels always seem fragile. 2 last minute wins at home previous to this game should see us approaching things more confidently but Villa very rarely make this count. Only positives for me are Samatta's 1st goal and the fact somehow we have remained out of the bottom 3.
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Davis did ok, but he’s a young player making his way what do you expect? It’s recruitment failures that he’s our second best striking option. It shouldn’t be on him.
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Massively disappointing result today. There will be others but there will be unlikely victories at times too. Still loads of other clubs in the shake up. ~It aint over till its over.
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The only positive that I can think of is we are a shit team, playing away from home and the other results were not too disastrous.
Absolutely. We got away with it today, but fortune such as that won't last forever. We need to pull unexpected results out of the hat and that starts with the next game.
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First rule you have to match the opposition for desire.
We did not do that and even when there was a goal in it we did not have a fucking clue.
Reina massively at fault for the second.
Don’t know how you can we expect to win games with Hause and our midfield 2.
Ake would have been offside if Guilbert had not been lagging 2 yards back and sleeping.
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we're going down on this evidence. Total garbage and paying the price for not getting proven experience of the PL to come in alongside some of the others. Very very poor, but pleased for Samagoal!
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You can have the best strikers in the league, but if can't give them decent service........
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This was our most important game of the season and Smith and the players did not respond.
Why on earth are we playing against ten men with 20 minutes to go needing a goal, and we're playing with three central defenders and two defensive midfielders.
Hause should've been off and Hourihane on, positive change plus the ones he made, would've given us more attacking options and maybe we could have rescued our pathetic first half performance.
I can't see how we're going to get out of this now.We'll need wins against the likes of Spurs, Sheffield United, Chelsea to survive.
Poor all round. Pissed off with Smith's negativity.
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Fuck me! What a depressing weekend!
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
Davis did well.
No he didn't. Only a hat trick Thierry Henri-esque in the 37 minutes game time he got would satisfy some of our supporters.
I think him scoring once in a while would satisfy most of us.
The time to slag him off will be when he's had a decent run of games and done nothing.
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You can have the best strikers in the league, but if can't give them decent service........
Not necessarily. Benteke used to create chances for himself out of nowhere.
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You can have the best strikers in the league, but if can't give them decent service........
This
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I think we have Smith for the remainder of the season after he miraculously got us to Wemberly. I am firmly of the opinion we are going down interspersed with a spanking in the League Cup final. Happy days.
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Davis is never going to cut it. Holding up the ball to bring others into play is fine but as a striker, you have to score yourself and he can't.
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
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We're still a point above the drop zone. Results will be up and down. We played so well against Leicester so it's not all gloom. Good job there's a 2 week break now to try and regroup. 2 weeks closer to SJM returning; him coming back could prove to be the difference to enable us to scrape out of it.
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I hate these Saturdays! I was hopeful after Tuesday's game but our lack of consistency will kill us eventually.
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Out of the bottom six I think I'm right in saying it's only us and Watford who didn't pick up points today. Not a good day.
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At least we are not in the bottom 3. That’s about all you can say.
We will be. A absolutely pathetic result. Ten men against one kf the worsf teams in the league yet we should ahve lost 3-1.
Too many shit performances. Worst player on the pitch was guilbert. All of his crosses didnt beat the first man.
Hause mings were also pathetic. Luiz was shit and grealish was shit.
Samatta davis targett only ones who walk out with any pride today.
Why the fuck ws grealish playing so Deep??? Smith has alot ti answr for fir that garbage today.
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The hope is that today's result proves a fatal blow to Watford's confidence and they go on a disastrous run. Would only need to find one more team to finish above then.
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
And how is a knockout punch by their keeper not a Penalty - a mistimed punch is no different to a mistimed tackle. penalty all day long!
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Yes agreed, he got nowhere near the ball and clattered Engels.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
Davis did well.
No he didn't. Only a hat trick Thierry Henri-esque in the 37 minutes game time he got would satisfy some of our supporters.
Would it be too much to have him score once? We don’t need him to become Henry.
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These 2 results against these could well fuck us.
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At least we are not in the bottom 3. That’s about all you can say.
We will be. A absolutely pathetic result. Ten men against one kf the worsf teams in the league yet we should ahve lost 3-1.
Too many shit performances. Worst player on the pitch was guilbert. All of his crosses didnt beat the first man.
Hause mings were also pathetic. Luiz was shit and grealish was shit.
Samatta davis targett only ones who walk out with any pride today.
Why the fuck ws grealish playing so Deep??? Smith has alot ti answr for fir that garbage today.
Grealish was best player on the pitch by a country mile - get back on the tablets you noob
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The hope is that today's result proves a fatal blow to Watford's confidence and they go on a disastrous run. Would only need to find one more team to finish above then.
Think they'll beat Brighton next week. In the long run that might actually turn out to be good for us as Brighton still have to play likes of Liverpool and Man. City at home and they hardly ever win away.
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Davis a positive? The man can't finish, his control is ropey and hes constantly injured. If that's our silver lining we really are fucked.
The only time we looked threatening was when he was on the pitch.
Apart from that, it's "give it to Jack" and hope he'll deliver.
That's been our tactic all season....
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It would be most teams tactics as well, get your best players one of the best in the league, on the ball as quickly as you can and as high up the pitch as you can.
This has somehow reverted as a criticism, which is bizarre.
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Crap game, crap result, Smith is inept. How I wish we had a better manager and could play football correctly; Start off like a fucking freight train, impose ourselves with pace and physicality, rather than ambling around like a used condom. It's a pain in the arse to have to watch such ineptitude almost weekly.
Besides Jack, a decent appearance from Davis, and a debut goal from Samatta, we were very poor. I love Mings, but he was back to one of his shit days today. He needs to be a leader in every game. Impossible perhaps, as he's only human, but he's too casual for my liking at times. And why on earth we didn't sign a midfield enforcer, I'll never know. I don't like Nakamba at all.
Hause, Freddie, and Reina were particularly crap. Reina didn't have a great deal to do, but he cocked up for the goal. Definitely should have kept Nyland in.
Out of 10 for team performance, 3.
Individually:
Reina 4
Targett 6
Hause -507
Mings 5
Konsa 4
Guilbert 4
Nakamba 3
Luiz 3
Grealish 7
Samatta 6
El Ghazi 2
Davis 7
Engels 5
Trezeguet...barely did anything.
Apologies for the non stop ranting. It's been a long day and I've had far too much to drink.
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Yes agreed, he got nowhere near the ball and clattered Engels.
Was that at 2-0 or 2-1, can't quite remember.
Ultimately we got it back to 2-1 with still 25 minutes left and barely had a shot. Bournemouth managed things very well from then.
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Crap game, crap result, Smith is inept. How I wish we had a better manager and could play football correctly; Start off like a fucking freight train, impose ourselves with pace and physicality, rather than ambling around like a used condom. It's a pain in the arse to have to watch such ineptitude almost weekly.
Besides Jack, a decent appearance from Davis, and a debut goal from Samatta, we were very poor. I love Mings, but he was back to one of his shit days today. He needs to be a leader in every game. Impossible perhaps, as hes only human, but he's too casual for my liking at times. And why on earth we didnt sign a midfield enforcer, I'll never know. I don't like Nakamba at all.
Hause, Freddie, and Reina were particularly crap. Reina didn't have a great deal to do, but he cocked up for the goal. Definitely should have kept Nyland in.
Out of 10 for team performance, 3.
Individually:
Reina 4
Targett 6
Hause -507
Mings 5
Konsa 4
Guilbert 4
Nakamba 3
Luiz 3
Grealish 7
Samatta 6
El Ghazi 2
Davis 7
Engels 5
Trezeguet...barely did anything.
Apologies for the non stop ranting. It's been a long day and I've had far too much to drink.
Just done dry Jan, so will be joining you on the drink later
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
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Making perfect sense to me Axl,
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At least we are not in the bottom 3. That’s about all you can say.
We will be. A absolutely pathetic result. Ten men against one kf the worsf teams in the league yet we should ahve lost 3-1.
Too many shit performances. Worst player on the pitch was guilbert. All of his crosses didnt beat the first man.
Hause mings were also pathetic. Luiz was shit and grealish was shit.
Samatta davis targett only ones who walk out with any pride today.
Why the fuck ws grealish playing so Deep??? Smith has alot ti answr for fir that garbage today.
Grealish was shit ????
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Yes agreed, he got nowhere near the ball and clattered Engels.
Was that at 2-0 or 2-1, can't quite remember.
Ultimately we got it back to 2-1 with still 25 minutes left and barely had a shot. Bournemouth managed things very well from then.
2-0, I can't understand why it's not a foul and yet a keeper is a protected species.
Bournemouth retreated in numbers, but we had chances, Davis in particular, to have got a point.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
We better be. Two week break although it's never a given as many teams have flat performances after breaks. Spurs also have CL game 3 days after.
Think we're going to need 5 points from Spurs/Chelsea/Arsenal/Man. United home games to have good chance of staying up.
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Grealish was shit?
Let's leave him out for a few games and see how we get on then.
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Apologies for the non stop ranting. It's been a long day and I've had far too much to drink.
Still morning here, and have to face the day sober. Just when I thought we had turned a corner ugh.
We are paying the price for not having got a decent aggressive ball winner in midfield. Nakamba sometimes looks like he might do it but flakes out in too many games. Luiz definitely can't. McGinn is a good player, but is better higher up the pitch. Drinkwater is just abject.
Samata looks better than Wesley, and Davies I like if he can stay fit.
Letting Chester go without a replacement is madness.
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Crap game, crap result, Smith is inept. How I wish we had a better manager and could play football correctly; Start off like a fucking freight train, impose ourselves with pace and physicality, rather than ambling around like a used condom. It's a pain in the arse to have to watch such ineptitude almost weekly.
Besides Jack, a decent appearance from Davis, and a debut goal from Samatta, we were very poor. I love Mings, but he was back to one of his shit days today. He needs to be a leader in every game. Impossible perhaps, as hes only human, but he's too casual for my liking at times. And why on earth we didnt sign a midfield enforcer, I'll never know. I don't like Nakamba at all.
Hause, Freddie, and Reina were particularly crap. Reina didn't have a great deal to do, but he cocked up for the goal. Definitely should have kept Nyland in.
Out of 10 for team performance, 3.
Individually:
Reina 4
Targett 6
Hause -507
Mings 5
Konsa 4
Guilbert 4
Nakamba 3
Luiz 3
Grealish 7
Samatta 6
El Ghazi 2
Davis 7
Engels 5
Trezeguet...barely did anything.
Apologies for the non stop ranting. It's been a long day and I've had far too much to drink.
Just done dry Jan, so will be joining you on the drink later
Haha. Ok, mate. Saturday games kick off at midnight Japan time, so usually, I've been drinking and eating since 7ish. By the time Villa kick off, I'm well on my way. Then they play badly, and it's around 3am before I've finished ranting, my wife has gone to bed, and I'm left in the living room with a few cans of whiskey soda.
Up the Villa.
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
Thanks Ads, always good to get a perspective from someone who’s there
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Grealish was shit?
Let's leave him out for a few games and see how we get on then.
Yes quite. Let’s face it the tactics are see if Jack can do something, and if he can’t we’re stuffed.
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All our players when in possession and an easy pass to Jack isn't on
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
And how is a knockout punch by their keeper not a Penalty - a mistimed punch is no different to a mistimed tackle. penalty all day long!
2 awful decisions in the space of a minute with that second yellow card for their player. Amazingly var checked the penalty claim and agreed it was no penalty.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/bmouth-vs-a-villa/408221
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The referee warned Lerna in the first half to srop.being a twat. Their captain got called over and told him to pull gus head in or he'd be off. He didn't and off he popped.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
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There's some rubbish on this thread.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living.
What a load of hyperbolic horse shit. Have a time out after games before posting such utter shite.
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Yes agreed, he got nowhere near the ball and clattered Engels.
Was that at 2-0 or 2-1, can't quite remember.
Ultimately we got it back to 2-1 with still 25 minutes left and barely had a shot. Bournemouth managed things very well from then.
2-0, I can't understand why it's not a foul and yet a keeper is a protected species.
Bournemouth retreated in numbers, but we had chances, Davis in particular, to have got a point.
Davis was a good bustling run but was wide of the goal when he shot. Amazed if he'd scored from that angle particularly as he hardly scores anyway.
Can't remember much else apart from a few crosses and headers well over the top.
Ultimately we're poor when we concede first away from home, have we even picked up a draw this season in league or cup?
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
I mean that’s just nonsense. We’ve recently seen that Luiz has plenty of talent, but he’s being played in the wrong role.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
The same Marvellous and Luiz who have been two of our best players over the last few games, including the games that got us to a final at Wembley?
I can understand the dissapointment at losing today, but that's a wild over reaction.
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We/Dean needs to learn how to adapt to playing against 10 men, I think thats 5 times this season were by weve dropped points with a player more.
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Ultimately we're poor when we concede first away from home, have we even picked up a draw this season in league or cup?
Manure and Brighton.
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We have too many players who are inconsistent. Nakamba. Hause. Liuz. AEG. Gilbert in particular. It's going to go to the wire this season.
I f**king hate how we blow hot and cold. This season has been one of the most frustrating I can remember. Having a player like Jack and still looking like we are inevitably sucked into this quagmire.
We desperately need to get another 4-5 wins now. Losing to the teams below you just f**ks up the maths so bad. Draw that and the situation looks a lot more doable.
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There's some rubbish on this thread.
I’m getting into the habit of leaving it for a few hours until it calms down because some of the comments are not very good!
To put it very mildly.
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We/Dean needs to learn how to adapt to playing against 10 men, I think thats 5 times this season were by weve dropped points with a player more.
2-3 points extra from that lot and we'd be fine.
FFS this season we have thrown so many points away.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
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Making perfect sense to me Axl,
You're too kind, mate.
Time for bed, I think. Malcom P and his noob nonsense is about to get me banned.
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Yes agreed, he got nowhere near the ball and clattered Engels.
Was that at 2-0 or 2-1, can't quite remember.
Ultimately we got it back to 2-1 with still 25 minutes left and barely had a shot. Bournemouth managed things very well from then.
2-0, I can't understand why it's not a foul and yet a keeper is a protected species.
Bournemouth retreated in numbers, but we had chances, Davis in particular, to have got a point.
Davis was a good bustling run but was wide of the goal when he shot. Amazed if he'd scored from that angle particularly as he hardly scores anyway.
Can't remember much else apart from a few crosses and headers well over the top.
Ultimately we're poor when we concede first away from home, have we even picked up a draw this season in league or cup?
Grealish was very close too, with some chances in the first half as well.
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There's some rubbish on this thread.
There certainly is and someone saying Grealish was shit takes the biscuit. He wasn’t at his world beating best but he was still the best player on the pitch by a country mile. Thanks Ads for your match report which at least brings a sense of perspective. Yes, its been a disappointing day but it’s by no means all over yet.
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A lot on here is said about the coaching by Smith , Terry and others.You can coach players until you are blue in the face but when they make individual errors you cant do anything about it. Perhaps it just boils down to the fact we dont have enough quality consistent players who may not be spectacular but at the same time dont make silly mistakes or decisions
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It's gonna carry like this for the rest of the season. I can't see us breaking away. We take 1 step fed then another back and then check other results to see if we have dropped in to the bottom 3. It's musical chairs.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
Rubbish.
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It's gonna carry like this for the rest of the season. I can't see us breaking away. We take 1 step fed then another back and then check other results to see if we have dropped in to the bottom 3. It's musical chairs.
It's horrible. I hate it. I would snap your arm off for a guaranteed 5 seasons of finishing on about 46 points and never looking like being in a relegation dogfight.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
Congratulations on winning Most Hysterical Post of the Year when we have only just started February.
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We have too many players who are inconsistent. Nakamba. Hause. Liuz. AEG. Gilbert in particular. It's going to go to the wire this season.
I f**king hate how we blow hot and cold. This season has been one of the most frustrating I can remember. Having a player like Jack and still looking like we are inevitably sucked into this quagmire.
We desperately need to get another 4-5 wins now. Losing to the teams below you just f**ks up the maths so bad. Draw that and the situation looks a lot more doable.
Hot and cold is how teams like ours blow. You wouldn't expect a young player to be consistent right away, so you shouldn't expect what was virtually a new team to gel immediately. Today was shite but the past month has been mostly a massive improvement on the previous one.
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One thing that was noticeable was the three or four flare ups amongst our own supporters. It didn't strike me as a game where everybody was hammered like Leciester away, but one thing is for sure, we need unity.
I know it's frustrating, it drives me mad watching Hause give it away, but a real collective unity from us is needed in the stands.
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https://audioboom.com/posts/7493520-listen-dean-smith-post-bournemouth
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Yet Nakamba and Luiz were superb against Leicester. It's frustrating but these players blow hot and cold. I notice DS left Drinkwater out completely today?
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Yet Nakamba and Luiz were superb against Leicester. It's frustrating but these players blow hot and cold. I notice DS left Drinkwater out completely today?
Injured, tight hamstring so didn't travel.
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Ultimately we're poor when we concede first away from home, have we even picked up a draw this season in league or cup?
Manure and Brighton.
Oh yeah Brighton all of two weeks ago, durhhhh. Man. United we scored first in the game so at least gave us confidence to come back later in the game.
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I know I've referred to him as a 'non scoring striker' in the past, and, let's be honest, he doesn't score very often at all, but I do think Keinan Davis made a difference when he came on, we had more movement up front which at least made them work, and he kept the ball quite well.
It was similar when Indiana Polis Jones Vassilev came on recently, added movement up front and we had more space to play.
Although obvs helped today them being down to 10 - well, it would help any normal team anyway.
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We have too many players who are inconsistent. Nakamba. Hause. Liuz. AEG. Gilbert in particular. It's going to go to the wire this season.
I f**king hate how we blow hot and cold. This season has been one of the most frustrating I can remember. Having a player like Jack and still looking like we are inevitably sucked into this quagmire.
We desperately need to get another 4-5 wins now. Losing to the teams below you just f**ks up the maths so bad. Draw that and the situation looks a lot more doable.
It's always a consquence of a transfer strategy gambling on promising lower level players. Great win one week, clueless four days later. That's why I'm always keen on having a decent core of experienced players in 11s as generally they're more consistant in their performances even if they don't hit 8s or 9s very often.
When we were finishing 6th regularly an eternity ago that squad had a good core of experienced players, we are quite a way off that standard.
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That was a bit wank wasn’t it? Let’s not do a blues and win the cup and get the chop.
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What a load of absolute Brexit after the highs of recent weeks.
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When we were finishing 6th we had Gareth Barry, James Milner, John Carew, Martin Laursen and Ashley Young.
To replicate that quality now, we would have had to have to have spent £150-200m. And have no squad.
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A big problem for us is too often we have games where a bunch of them are having an off day, today there's 5 or 6 of them that couldn't have complained if they'd been subbed. At this level even against the weaker sides it's going to kill you.
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Two things missing from too many of our players, concentration and composure. We give so many balls away and fail to clear our lines because of this. We should have taken a point from the game but having got a goal back the tempo was dropped rather than increased. We play better when we have space, so why compress the game by using defenders to bring the ball up to the halfway line. As somebody else said, we ran out of ideas in the last 15 minutes.
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Making perfect sense to me Axl,
You're too kind, mate.
Time for bed, I think. Malcom P and his noob nonsense is about to get me banned.
???? Anybody who said grealish was shit today is a noob (or a blue nose) what's wrong with fact?
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
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Dougie and Marvellous ,more so Dougie, don’t seem able to impose themselves for a full 90 mins . Sadly they have only 3 months to turn this ongoing flaw around before it’s too late, with only SJM to come in as a plausible replacement.
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It’s not overly surprising that Luiz can’t impose himself for 90 mins, he’s a young player. He’s talented, but there’s too much reliance placed on him.
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
And how is a knockout punch by their keeper not a Penalty - a mistimed punch is no different to a mistimed tackle. penalty all day long!
2 awful decisions in the space of a minute with that second yellow card for their player. Amazingly var checked the penalty claim and agreed it was no penalty.
Probably, if Engels hadn't already got his header away it would have been a VAR penalty.
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Disappointing. I had us down for at least a point today.
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Again we lacked the physical intensity to compete in midfield, as we knew we have all season and wanted it rectified in the January transfer window. Instead we signed Drinkwater, because, well, he was easy to sign, no one wanted him. It's another thing that will come back to haunt us in May.
Extremely poor today, for the umpteenth time this season. Very brittle away from home, no back bone, too easy to score against and not solid enough to cling on in games where we aren't at the races.
All in all it's a bad recipe for staying up.
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Looking at the highlights, a terrible parry by Reina for the second goal. Nyland should've started after that brilliant display against Leicester.
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The referee warned Lerna in the first half to srop.being a twat. Their captain got called over and told him to pull gus head in or he'd be off. He didn't and off he popped.
Didn't even look a foul in fairness for the second yellow. Only saw the highlights just now, two very poor goals to concede. Mings inability to use his right foot to clear the ball, Reina kindly tapping it out for Ake to score. Their keeper was dreadful for our goal too.
I did expect a struggle today after Tuesday. Leaving three centre backs on the pitch when they were down to 10 men does seem if there was fatigue on the sideline too. We should have had enough about us to get an equaliser, disappointing.
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Plus a poor clearance by Mings after the free-kick block for their second.
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
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Harsh sending off aswell.
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?
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3CB's when 2 who started where both poor with 10 mins to go was bewildering.
Twice JG made space to set up Nakamba on the edge of the box who shot miles over , a cb should of come off to allow Conner to come on to be in that position.
Us not scoring from a corner is now a damning stat , we win corner's 7/8 today and fail to do anything with them.At other end we are one of the worst teams for conceding them ..that is training ground failures as far as I am concerned.
Samatta scores with only chance he had , like Wes working on scraps.
Smith '' We talked about this before the game '' post match comments are wearing very thin.Clearly the half time talk did little better as we were awful to start the 2nd half untill the red card
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Do we ever practice crossing the ball or corners? We could not beat an egg let alone the first man.
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I'd rather have lost on Tuesday and got 3 points today. Premier League survival is paramount to keeping our best players and not having severe financial implications.
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Seen worse and it two bad defensive mistakes. The second a poor one from Reina Too much reliance on one player.
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We should have grabbed a draw, but unfortunately they don't always come off, and the Watford win the other week was sweet.
On the positives, Samatta got his goal and Davies is back. Hope that is a partnership that will have more success in the next games (quickly please)
There are no easy games in this league, and at least we don't have West Ham's next 2 games - ManCity & Liverpool ::)
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I'd rather have lost on Tuesday and got 3 points today. Premier League survival is paramount to keeping our best players and not having severe financial implications.
I think many of us are in that camp ...as much as I am looking forward to Wembley the potential repeat of the Arsenal FA Cup Final result will have a terrible draining effect on the club and fans - conversely a win could be the catalyst to survival ....
Today's result doesn't define the season but coupled with the result earlier in the season against Bournemouth and it sends out a message that we are short of quality for the league but that should not excuse the lack of commitment or application
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Tuesday our midfield allowed Leicester plenty of opportunities, the difference is that our goalkeeper made 3 brilliant saves, today the same happened and our goalkeeper parried the ball to thier player.
We allways give the opposition chances in fact we do this more than any other team.
So it’s no surprise why we lose so many games.
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Disappointed not to have got a point out of that.
Thought it was a nervous and poor quality first half with both backlines recycling possession too easily. But after the quarter your mark I felt we took control and Grealish started to get on the ball around the box. They then score against the run of play and manage to score following a blatant as far as I'm concerned foul on Konsa while we were on the attack.
Second half we had more than enough chances to have equalised. They dropped off 20 yards and kept giving it us back. Davis played well, but his finishing let's him down, sadly it's the most important part of the game.
A poor result, saved by West Ham and Watford being poor.
I felt a few were off colour, Guilbert hit the first man too consistently, El Ghazi, beautiful through ball aside drifted out. Hause was his usual wasteful and slow self in possession. Dealing with those two second balls for the goals were poor.
Come the last five minutes we ran out of ideas and I think it would have been better to take Hause off for Trezuguet and push Dougie higher up.
A frustrating day, a poor result, but its tightened up further and we live to fight another day.
Thanks Ads, always good to get a perspective from someone who’s there
Agree, a measured and informative post
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Think grealish needs to start from the middle now. He’s our best player by a mile and needs more of the ball. He’s wasted on the left at times.
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Think grealish needs to start from the middle now. He’s our best player by a mile and needs more of the ball. He’s wasted on the left at times.
Played in behind two strikers in a 3-4-1-2 and scrap wingers? Yeah, I’d go with that. At a push the wide players we have could play more centrally anyway so they wouldn’t be wasted necessarily.
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Tuesday our midfield allowed Leicester plenty of opportunities, the difference is that our goalkeeper made 3 brilliant saves, today the same happened and our goalkeeper parried the ball to thier player.
We allways give the opposition chances in fact we do this more than any other team.
So it’s no surprise why we lose so many games.
Yes, we are way ahead in the league for shots conceded and it's not good enough.
All the positivity from the last 2 matches evaporated in the first half. Most of the players don't appear to be able to string together more than one or two decent performances in a row.
I am fed up of our away performances in the league. Talk of blowing hot and cold in away games is generally misplaced as we rarely blow hot.
Apart from Norwich, we have probably only really had 4 decent halves away from home: Spurs, Arsenal, Man U and Burnley. That leaves a big gap filled by a lot of mediocre or sub-standard football.
I really hope not, but maybe the improved and more energetic displays against Watford and Leicester were a blip rather than a sign of better things to come.
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?
grealish is shit comment doesn't deserve an ounce of respect the guy is a xxxx
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Think grealish needs to start from the middle now. He’s our best player by a mile and needs more of the ball. He’s wasted on the left at times.
Played in behind two strikers in a 3-4-1-2 and scrap wingers? Yeah, I’d go with that. At a push the wide players we have could play more centrally anyway so they wouldn’t be wasted necessarily.
That’s the one mate
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Our site rules do though if you want to post here.
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I only saw some of the second half and looking at the highlights it looked like Jack was very unlucky and Bournemouth very lucky with the one that brushed the post and even more so with the one that went through the keepers legs.
Nakamba was asleep for the first goal allowing Billing to get to the ball before him, but also must call out Fred for a piss poor half cocked challenge on the header that sent it back into the box. And Nakamba's two "shots" in the second half. Comedy gold.
I think Reina, with his experience, has to do better than parry the ball back into the centre of the area like that, surely he should have pushed it wide? Also I reckon on recent form Nyland saves both those goals.
For those calling Davis a non-scoring striker. For God's sake he's about 22, and he's never had what I would call a decent run in the team - I'm talking 15-20 games minimum. Any striker would struggle for goals when playing in bits and pieces, here and there, and mostly sub appearances, and often in a team that is playing shite. To dismiss him as not a goalscorer is pig ignorant in my view until he's had a proper chance. His hold up play is often excellent and you can see defenders don't like having to face him because of his strength. Plus he made Samatta's goal today. I say give the kid a break.
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Now back in Brum and a few thoughts; Salisbury has some nice pubs, it's a definite and blatant push before their second goal and Engels is indeed smashed in the mush. 2nd goal should never have taken place and it's an obvious penalty.
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Now back in Brum and a few thoughts; Salisbury has some nice pubs, it's a definite and blatant push before their second goal and Engels is indeed smashed in the mush. 2nd goal should never have taken place and it's an obvious penalty.
Yes. But neither of those things excuse an otherwise shit performance.
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Not long in and not read the thread but today left me frustrated to say the least. Too many players off the pace, not enough brains used, especially when they went to ten men. We should be intelligent enough by now to make the man advantage count, yet time and time again, we are found wanting. Hate to say it, but we got what we deserved today - nothing.
Let’s hope we use this two week break to work on getting the basics right, notably creative passing and decent crossing because today there was little or none of both.
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We are infuriatingly and consistently inconsistent. Very poor defensively for the goals. I still cannot believe that we didn't use the market to bring in a defensive midfielder. Still outside the bottom three thanks to other results. We still seem to lack nous and a bit of motivation. We have a couple of really tough months coming up and I honestly think that we will struggle as confidence is so variable.
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Bournemouth worked really hard in an efficient, organised way. I would have said the same about us on Tuesday night, but we still relied on Nyland to keep us in the game. Today we seemed a bit clueless until Grealish got on the ball further up the pitch. The two goals were disappointing; Nakamba losing Billing for the first, and Grealish not following Ake for the second (as well as Reina’s parry). I know they have struggled recently, but Bournemouth looked hard to beat today, whereas this has rarely been the case for us. If the players are ‘coachable’ as Smith often says, I’d like to see a bit more evidence of disciplined application of the plan in games like today.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
It’s a really good excuse and absolutely classic and you see it time and time again. We kept an unchanged side due to poor squad depth and that did us. We looked particularly knackered in the last fifteen minutes. The root of the problem is lack of squad depth.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
It’s a really good excuse and absolutely classic and you see it time and time again. We kept an unchanged side due to poor squad depth and that did us. We looked particularly knackered in the last fifteen minutes. The root of the problem is lack of squad depth.
And yet Dean tells us we have two players for every position. I think you're right though, the depth of the squad isn't as good as we need it to be and with the likes of Lansbury and Jota to come in if we have any further injuries to midfielders, that just tells us how lacking we are. Only having two transfer windows and FFP issues are also to blame too.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
It’s a really good excuse and absolutely classic and you see it time and time again. We kept an unchanged side due to poor squad depth and that did us. We looked particularly knackered in the last fifteen minutes. The root of the problem is lack of squad depth.
And yet Dean tells us we have two players for every position. I think you're right though, the depth of the squad isn't as good as we need it to be and with the likes of Lansbury and Jota to come in if we have any further injuries to midfielders, that just tells us how lacking we are. Only having two transfer windows and FFP issues are also to blame too.
We do, technically, have two players for each position. The problem is that the replacements aren't good enough. The next step when we stay up is to bring in 3 or 4 really good quality (Mings/McGinn level) players - quality not quantity this summer, who will see the likes of Lansbury, Jota, Taylor, Hourihane etc out of the reckoning completely and push the likes of Nakamba, Targett (unless he steps up more consistently) and El Ghazi onto the bench.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
It’s a really good excuse and absolutely classic and you see it time and time again. We kept an unchanged side due to poor squad depth and that did us. We looked particularly knackered in the last fifteen minutes. The root of the problem is lack of squad depth.
And yet Dean tells us we have two players for every position. I think you're right though, the depth of the squad isn't as good as we need it to be and with the likes of Lansbury and Jota to come in if we have any further injuries to midfielders, that just tells us how lacking we are. Only having two transfer windows and FFP issues are also to blame too.
We do, technically, have two players for each position. The problem is that the replacements aren't good enough. The next step when we stay up is to bring in 3 or 4 really good quality (Mings/McGinn level) players - quality not quantity this summer, who will see the likes of Lansbury, Jota, Taylor, Hourihane etc out of the reckoning completely and push the likes of Nakamba, Targett (unless he steps up more consistently) and El Ghazi onto the bench.
I agree. Quality over quantity if we can survive.
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One positive, albeit small, I did like the way Samatta reacted to his goal, with only one thought in mind, to get the ball back as quickly as possible. No exaggerated, or indeed any particular, celebration.
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It's the Villa way to make things as hard as possible, if we had played with the same passion as we did against Leicester we would have won easily but there are too many in the side that just don't put in. Without Grealish we are a championship side and its all very fine to go out and get good prospects but we are woefully short of seasoned professionals. Still not convinced by Smith but when I look at Wet Spam we could be worse off.
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Reckon the game on Tuesday took a lot out of us today. Crap excuse I know, but we’ll be up for the spurs game.
It's a terrible excuse. We had no game at the weekend due to being out of the FA Cup, so Tuesday/Saturday shouldn't be beyond a team who haven't been playing in Europe.
It’s a really good excuse and absolutely classic and you see it time and time again. We kept an unchanged side due to poor squad depth and that did us. We looked particularly knackered in the last fifteen minutes. The root of the problem is lack of squad depth.
And yet Dean tells us we have two players for every position. I think you're right though, the depth of the squad isn't as good as we need it to be and with the likes of Lansbury and Jota to come in if we have any further injuries to midfielders, that just tells us how lacking we are. Only having two transfer windows and FFP issues are also to blame too.
He just doesn’t freshen it up though, we win a game and you know he will pick the same team,it was not working in the first half, does he change it ?no
Same all the time.
They outnumbered and out fought our midfield and went about the game with energy.
They are a pretty shit team but they had enough to beat us easily.
It was only the sending off that let us back in and even then we were ordinary.
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I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?
grealish is shit comment doesn't deserve an ounce of respect the guy is a xxxx
Read it again - I don't think that is what he said. He criticized Smith for playing Grealish too deep and for Smith having to answer "that garbage today". You are reading it as him saying Grealish was garbage.
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Not long in and not read the thread but today left me frustrated to say the least. Too many players off the pace, not enough brains used, especially when they went to ten men. We should be intelligent enough by now to make the man advantage count, yet time and time again, we are found wanting. Hate to say it, but we got what we deserved today - nothing.
Let’s hope we use this two week break to work on getting the basics right, notably creative passing and decent crossing because today there was little or none of both.
This is the real issue though: we've been saying on this forum for several years that we don't defend set pieces well, that our ball retention is poor, that our off-the-ball movement is poor ...
If we can see this, what the fuck is the coaching staff doing?!
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?
Agreed... we all want the same thing but just because one persons opinion is different it doesn't make them wrong ,stupid or clueless ...as adults we should be able to debate discuss etc without resorting to petty childish insults
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If we don't know how to do the basics by now, a two week hiatus isn't going to make one iota of difference. I honestly think we are simply too inconsistent to not go down, as we don't have the experience needed to put two or three consecutive wins together. I will be sad if we get relegated, but ultimately it won't make any difference to my life . i will renew my ST as soon as they are on sale for next season and go to support them whenever I can. Of course if we are relegated, we can say goodbye to the three or four unquestionably good players we have, but that's football for you.
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I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.
MOTD showed that their second goal should not have counted due to the obvious push on the edge of OUR box, and that we should have had a penalty for the punch on Engels .
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I'd rather have lost on Tuesday and got 3 points today. Premier League survival is paramount to keeping our best players and not having severe financial implications.
I think many of us are in that camp ...as much as I am looking forward to Wembley the potential repeat of the Arsenal FA Cup Final result will have a terrible draining effect on the club and fans - conversely a win could be the catalyst to survival ....
Today's result doesn't define the season but coupled with the result earlier in the season against Bournemouth and it sends out a message that we are short of quality for the league but that should not excuse the lack of commitment or application
Didn’t see the game yesterday so can’t comment on performance, other than being hugely disappointed after the highs of the last couple of weeks. It’s going to go down to the wire, West Ham have had virtually no new manager bounce and Watford may have had theirs.
In terms of Tuesday, there are literally a handful of occasions in my 37 or so years going down the villa that I’ve been in the Holte when it’s reacted like that to the winner. My kids also will I guess never forget the night that we got a last minute winner to get to a cup final and are still totally buzzing with the prospect of Wembley. No matter what the result against city and no matter if we go down, those memories stick and are what supporting a team is for me all about.
I also don’t think we’ll go down, it’ll be close but.
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Massively disappointed with the performance and obviously the result. It's going to the wire and it's hard to see where our next win is going to come from, but one thing for sure is that we're going to need to start picking up points from teams in the top half if we're going to stay up this season.
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So many basic mistakes from the team. In this league they get punished. There was a period at the beginning of the second half when in a space of 2 or 3 minutes we must have made 20 errors in attempting to clear the ball. Simply not good enough.
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I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.
MOTD showed that their second goal should not have counted due to the obvious push on the edge of OUR box, and that we should have had a penalty for the punch on Engels .
You're absolutely right on both counts, but we didn't get either decision & continued to defend like a half-cut pub team. I dread to think what would have happened if JG hadn't been on the park - as we would've offered nothing going forward either. As I've already attested: if we continue to play in such a disorganised, half-hearted & thoroughly inadequate way (as we have on far too many occasions this season) - we'll inevitably be saying "tarra a bit" to the Prem & another Summer of upheaval & loss of our playing assets. Frankly, the club will only have themselves to blame.
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I think part if the reason we improved second half is that we had a defender in Engels who had the ability to pass to a blue shirt.
It was very frustrating seeing Hause, not under any pressure, take 3 or 4 touches and decide to give the ball away. The system of 3 at the back is reliant on possession and he needs dropping.
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Such a poor result after the euphoria of getting to a cup final. Managed to watch the majority of it and we could have got something out of the game but we can't keep going behind and expect to come back, it's not going to happen every week.
The lousy defending cost us and I think it's those kind of games where someone like Drinkwater is hopefully going to come in and do a job for us. All in all, a massive disappointment.
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I've just seen the 'highlights' on MOTD & was utterly appalled by that shambolic & lackadaisical defensive horror show. What the Hell happened to them since the gutsy, committed performance we witnessed on Tuesday night? On the evidence of what I witnessed, Bournemouth were worthy winners: but how easy did we make it for them FFS?! Smith needs to get this sorted in the next 2 weeks, or we - & probably he - will be toast.
MOTD showed that their second goal should not have counted due to the obvious push on the edge of OUR box, and that we should have had a penalty for the punch on Engels .
You're absolutely right on both counts, but we didn't get either decision & continued to defend like a half-cut pub team. I dread to think what would have happened if JG hadn't been on the park - as we would've offered nothing going forward either. As I've already attested: if we continue to play in such a disorganised, half-hearted & thoroughly inadequate way (as we have on far too many occasions this season) - we'll inevitably be saying "tarra a bit" to the Prem & another Summer of upheaval & loss of our playing assets. Frankly, the club will only have themselves to blame.
Can’t complain about VAR for those two decisions.
IF Bournemouth had scored directly on the break after the ref missed the ‘foul’, then VAR could have reviewed, as soon as they get their free kick - ability to review early infringements in the build up to the goal is gone.
With the punch to the head, if he had kept the ball in play, and not headed over then I think it would have been easier for VAR to see it as a clear and obvious error.
You see a few when plays get ‘taken out’ a bit after shooting and they are never given.
I don’t think he was put off / missed as a result of the contact
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Is that what the rules say? Like when Gerard tried to break Boatengs leg, the referee had to consider that Geroge had got his pass off when giving Slippy G a red card?
Engels was fouled, it was a penalty, if it was an outfield player, he'd have been sent off. Wilson was booked for elbows later on, after Hause had cleared a ball.
Two very poor refereeing errors had a significant outcome on the game.
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The more I see the goals, the more I think Pepe has to look in the mirror. Think Nyland saves the first and the second is an awful parry into the danger zone.
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I had the game on with 2 commentators who sounded very pro Bournemouth. On the keeper one they both said definite penalty as the keeper clearly and deliberately punched Engels in the head AFTER the ball had gone. Interestingly one of them said it would have been on his mind that when Samatta got in first for his goal that the keeper was upset to have not "laid a glove on him" so he "wasn't going to allow that to happen twice." In my view it was a deliberate act. I'm convinced it was a stonewall pen and possibly a0 straight red for violent conduct.
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The only thing dafter than calling Grealish shit, is calling people noobs, aren't you 50 odd ffs.
so what would you call them. I could think of a lot of names but I can't repeat them on here.
How about disagreeing with them without calling them names?
grealish is shit comment doesn't deserve an ounce of respect the guy is a xxxx
Read it again - I don't think that is what he said. He criticized Smith for playing Grealish too deep and for Smith having to answer "that garbage today". You are reading it as him saying Grealish was garbage.
before playing too deep comment which I agree wit
after trez came on, 2 paragraphs above he said Grealish was shit. I am all for reasoned debate and opinions but that was quite clearly a ridiculous comment.anybody who watched the game knows that he was our best player by a mile and that is not an opinion it is a FACT.
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So at Villa Park their player plays the ball and it's clearly going out of play, our goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict Penalty. Our player plays the ball, again going out of play, their goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict No Penalty! Hmmmmmn
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So at Villa Park their player plays the ball and it's clearly going out of play, our goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict Penalty. Our player plays the ball, again going out of play, their goalkeeper collides with him - Verdict No Penalty! Hmmmmmn
The only thing I would say is that yesterday the ball was not going out of play and it makes it even worse.
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Let's not whine, the problems lay closer to home than penalty complaints. We've conceded nearly 50 goals in 25 games. That's abysmal.
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People can point out how sloppy we were in possession at the back and how lackadaisical we were in clearing the ball and also point out two decisions that had a significant impact on the game.
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Fair enough with the pen.
The other decision was rubbish though. I don't care if VAR was unable to review it because play had moved onto the next phase, it was right in front of the referee and was a clear foul. The free kick they scored from was less obvious a push, and only came about as a direct result of the quick break allowed by he non-awarded free kick. 1-0 at half time would have been more recoverable .
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It's all just excuses really. We played too poorly for too long and didn't deserve to get anything out of it.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
A bit OTT but I think Nakamba is an extremely limited player. A mediocre signing in my view
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Looking at the brief highlights, Jack was so unlucky twice in the first half when we were on top. Soon after we were two down. Small margins.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
I know its all about opinions but that is just utter drivel from start to finish. You have to laugh sometimes.
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
Let’s see how long it will take Smith to work this one out.
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
I know its all about opinions but that is just utter drivel from start to finish. You have to laugh sometimes.
On relection that is a bit harsh. They have played okay in about 1 in every 6 games.
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I don’t think they are bad players,they are being asked to play a role that neither are suited to.
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
Playing three at the back necessitates defenders being better on the ball, as they're going to have possession. Hause is limited in that respect, but I was annoyed by the lack of options in front of him when he's on the ball. Teams are going to work this out, and if our 'out' ball is limited to coming from him, most teams would be happy with that. If was playing against us I'd be happy giving him time on the ball and marking the options rather than pressuring him.
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I don’t think they are bad players,they are being asked to play a role that neither are suited to.
As in asked to be tackling defensive midfielders?
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The blame lies firmly with Marvellous and Luiz. Useless footballers stealing a living. I think they are probably mid table old division 4 standard. You can’t win games starting with 9 men.
A bit OTT but I think Nakamba is an extremely limited player. A mediocre signing in my view
Very OTT. Probably a poster who would have called the likes of Traore, Gana and Veretout completely useless, when all 3 have gone one to have successful top flight careers, two in the premier League.
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I don’t think they are bad players,they are being asked to play a role that neither are suited to.
As in asked to be tackling defensive midfielders?
Nakamba frustrates me as he can be making some appalling mistakes or occasionally play out of his skin as he did against Leicester.
He was surely brought in as a defensive midfielder so I am not sure what role he was used to playing in the Belgian league.
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In the Sunday Mercury, Dean was partially blaming the ball boys, in part, for our defeat, as he says they went missing after 55 minutes. Scraping the barrel a bit there?
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
The Hause problem has been developing for a few weeks. Good defender in the air but hasnt the technical ability to play in a three at this level. Really beggars belief how he wasn't the one taken off when Davis came on yesterday.
I do think Engels as sweeper in the centre and Mings to the left could work and is worth trying. Would help Mings out as his weakness turning onto the right side is starting to be exposed too.
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
The Hause problem has been developing for a few weeks. Good defender in the air but hasnt the technical ability to play in a three at this level. Really beggars belief how he wasn't the one taken off when Davis came on yesterday.
I do think Engels as sweeper in the centre and Mings to the left could work and is worth trying. Would help Mings out as his weakness turning onto the right side is starting to be exposed too.
I bet he keeps starting though.
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In the Sunday Mercury, Dean was partially blaming the ball boys, in part, for our defeat, as he says they went missing after 55 minutes. Scraping the barrel a bit there?
Yeah his comments about the ball boys had me cringing. He’s not quite at the deluded levels of Bruce and Lambert yet but he’s getting there.
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I was one who was calling for Hause to be played and now I see why he wasn't. Good in the air but it finishes there, so ponderous on the ball and his distribution is horrible. I just do not understand in such an important game that could have seen us move to relative safety that the players came out and played with absolutely no heart and no passion. That is the job of the manager to get the players fired up that's what the good managers seem to be able to do.
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I was one who was calling for Hause to be played and now I see why he wasn't. Good in the air but it finishes there, so ponderous on the ball and his distribution is horrible. I just do not understand in such an important game that could have seen us move to relative safety that the players came out and played with absolutely no heart and no passion. That is the job of the manager to get the players fired up that's what the good managers seem to be able to do.
None of our centre backs all season have been helped by the inability of the midfielders in front of them to get on the ball. To be honest I'm struggling to think of our last centre midfielder comfortable of taking possession off the back four under pressure, Gareth Barry maybe or Delph to a degree.
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I think the biggest problem at the moment is that Hause is simply not good enough for this level. His passing is consistently poor - either picking out a player on the other team or chipping it straight out of play. He's far too slow on the ball and invites pressure onto himself, and when he does lose the ball it often leads to a chance for the other team as he loses it from situations where we should have comfortable possession. The problem is that playing 3 at the back we don't really have much of an alternative, possibly put Mings one over and Engels in the middle, or a straight swap of Taylor for Hause. None of these are particularly convincing but keeping it the way it is is asking for trouble.
The Hause problem has been developing for a few weeks. Good defender in the air but hasnt the technical ability to play in a three at this level. Really beggars belief how he wasn't the one taken off when Davis came on yesterday.
I do think Engels as sweeper in the centre and Mings to the left could work and is worth trying. Would help Mings out as his weakness turning onto the right side is starting to be exposed too.
The other teams playing this formation regularly Wolves and Shef U both have CB's confident on the ball .Shef United play 5 in the middle and 2 up top so they have bodies in mf , Wolves go 3-4-3 like us but 2 very good CM and in Mouthinho one very experienced one.
Going to 3 at back made us more solid mostly as Mings cover's and blocks when the other 2 are out of position.The weakness though in the formation ,for us was exposed in this game as we got out numbered in MF and the CB's limitations on the ball were exposed.
Tactics played there part but on the day the back 3 in particular had poor games.
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352 or variations there of only work if you keep the ball. The distribution out the back, from Hause in particular was very poor. We improved second half for a few reasons, Engels being able to pass the ball was one of those reasons.
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I think he's going to persevere with 3 at the back, he's going to have to move Mings into Hause's spot, put Engels in the middle, and keep Konsa on the right. I like Hause but he's been far too inconsistent of late.
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I think he's going to persevere with 3 at the back, he's going to have to move Mings into Hause's spot, put Engels in the middle, and keep Konsa on the right. I like Hause but he's been far too inconsistent of late.
I agree. My only worry is Engels pace, but then I cannot recall a situation prior to the Leicester game where he looked like he was in slow motion, so perhaps he was carrying a knock.
Hause looks to have lost confidence on the ball. He needs some time out the side.
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I'm hoping on reflection that Saturday was what I've seen so many times down the years, a team looking flat after an emotional high in the previous game.
But, it's the hope that kills ya
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I think he's going to persevere with 3 at the back, he's going to have to move Mings into Hause's spot, put Engels in the middle, and keep Konsa on the right. I like Hause but he's been far too inconsistent of late.
I agree. My only worry is Engels pace, but then I cannot recall a situation prior to the Leicester game where he looked like he was in slow motion, so perhaps he was carrying a knock.
Hause looks to have lost confidence on the ball. He needs some time out the side.
Engels did look like he was running in mud against Southampton, also not sure why he disappeared for a month? But I would put him back in too. I really like Hause, a lot of that relates to him being part of that whole run last season and all those 40 yard cross field passes. But he’s looked like an accident waiting to happen with the ball at his feet the last few weeks. Like a lot of the players he’s only young and probably does need taken out for a few games.
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Hause isn't all that young, he'll be 25 in the summer.
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I think he's going to persevere with 3 at the back, he's going to have to move Mings into Hause's spot, put Engels in the middle, and keep Konsa on the right. I like Hause but he's been far too inconsistent of late.
I agree. My only worry is Engels pace, but then I cannot recall a situation prior to the Leicester game where he looked like he was in slow motion, so perhaps he was carrying a knock.
Hause looks to have lost confidence on the ball. He needs some time out the side.
https://www.givemesport.com/1529716-the-fastest-players-in-the-premier-league-so-far-this-season-have-been-revealed
6) Allan Saint-Maximin - Newcastle - 22.8mph (36.69kph)
=4) Bjorn Engels - Aston Villa - 22.9mph (36.85kph)
=4) Kyle Walker - Man City - 22.9mph (36.85kph)
3) Phil Foden - Man City - 23.1mph (37.17kph)
2) Shane Long - Southampton - 23.2 mph (37.33kph)
1) Caglar Soyuncu - Leicester City - 23.3mph (37.49kph)
One of fastest player's in league , have to admit I'm shocked to see him clock the same speed as Walker who is very quick
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He must have been carrying a knock. He looked so slow in his last start.
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Not surprised that Dermot Gallagher says no penalty for the punch on Engels but not sure I follow his logic that the goalkeeper was going for the ball but as Engels got there first he caught him instead. On that basis how was Heaton's challenge on Wilson a penalty or how is any defenders attempt to play the ball a penalty. The lack of consistency is appalling and worsened by Gallagher's attempts to legitimise it.
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Isn't every foul pretty much someone getting to the ball before the other person? Gallacher makes as much sense as a pissed up Paul Gascoigne.
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Isn't every foul pretty much someone getting to the ball before the other person? Gallacher makes as much sense as a pissed up Paul Gascoigne.
Galagher is just an apologist for referees and var. What is that tool even doing on my fkn screen?
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
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Ref watch is an uncomfortable watch, Gallagher comes across as fucking stupid.
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Ref watch is an uncomfortable watch, Gallagher comes across as fucking stupid.
What do you mean "comes across"?
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
Removed eh? Well I suppose that's one decision he actually got right. ;)
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Isn't every foul pretty much someone getting to the ball before the other person? Gallacher makes as much sense as a pissed up Paul Gascoigne.
If you read the rules regarding fouls, there's no mention of intent whatsoever.
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
When he was secretary of Banbury United back in the late 80's/early 90's, he told me he was a Villa fan
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
When he was secretary of Banbury United back in the late 80's/early 90's, he told me he was a Villa fan
Why would he do that, it’s patently not true.
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I can clarify this I went to school with him.He is a United fan. In fact he was rarely seen without his United scarf.
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I can clarify this I went to school with him.He is a United fan. In fact he was rarely seen without his United scarf.
Thanks
Do you live in Banbury?
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
When he was secretary of Banbury United back in the late 80's/early 90's, he told me he was a Villa fan
Why would he do that, it’s patently not true.
Don't shoot the messenger
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Gallagher just backs up the decision the referee makes. His views are as impartial as Fox News. A complete waste of time.
hes a complete knob head and actually looks like a knob to be fair
He has a manure tattoo to prove it
I think you'll find that his Yanited tattoo is just an urban myth. I've heard him say he supports Celtic on 2 occasions, but perhaps he just likes to keep folk guessing...
It’s definitely true.
He had it removed but he definitely had one.
When he was secretary of Banbury United back in the late 80's/early 90's, he told me he was a Villa fan
Why would he do that, it’s patently not true.
Don't shoot the messenger
Just asking why he said that, lots of people know his Manure allegiance and about the Tat. See Passport above.