Douglas Luiz - back home.

[algy]

I’d also like to apologise because i thought Sting had 7 hour long tantric sex sessions. However, it was recently revealed that the 7hrs includes going out for food and watching a movie. I hadn’t kept up to date with the latest Sting news, clearly.

Anyway, I’d like to revise my comment to say that Sting would take Alisha Lehmann out for dinner at somewhere fancy like Zizzis or somewhere like that, then go and watch Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers extended edition with her if that’s what she fancied and also Sting was looking for something to do for 7hrs.

[Olneythelonely]

Plenty wrong with calling her plastic, judging her looks and how long people would do her for. Weird and creepy as fuck.

Yeah good point.

I'm sure she is a lovely person, but she is a role model and it's hugely disappointing that feels the need to alter her looks in such a way and that plenty of other people will follow her example. Because of the level of work done she doesn't look anything like her natural self, hence the word plastic.

Still, didn't quite come across in the manner I meant it.

If only women didn’t feel the pressure to care too much about their appearance. Think men might need to have a good old think about the example they set first.

[Drummond]

Oh yes I agree and my clumsy comments don't really help.

[RamboandBruno]

Ah man, i really loved Dougie first time around, especially that first season & a half under Emery. I was absolutely gutted when he left.
Delighted for him to come back, that interview on Villa TV was heartwarming, oh my he seemed so happy to be home. I really really want this to work out for him and us. Think he’s going to need to hit the ground running. Gwon Dougie.

[Rory]

Plenty wrong with calling her plastic, judging her looks and how long people would do her for. Weird and creepy as fuck.

Yeah good point.

I'm sure she is a lovely person, but she is a role model and it's hugely disappointing that feels the need to alter her looks in such a way and that plenty of other people will follow her example. Because of the level of work done she doesn't look anything like her natural self, hence the word plastic.

Still, didn't quite come across in the manner I meant it.

If only women didn’t feel the pressure to care too much about their appearance. Think men might need to have a good old think about the example they set first.

I don't really think we need to prolong this, but just for academic interest, two of my former girlfriend's best friends at Cambridge did a lot of postgrad research on gender studies and it was both surprising (to me, as a male, with my own presumptions and so on) and illuminating to hear them talk about how much contemporary pressures to conform to beauty standards are actually dictated by female influences and are unrelated to male preferences.*

An example they often cited was the 'does my bum look big in this?' phenomenon, where research has repeatedly shown that a woman having a larger arse is seen by a vast majority of men as either a neutral or a positive, whereas it's still a source of anxiety for a large number of women.

*(This was qualified with the awareness that, potentially, such theories are shaped by women's post-feminist desire to reject male objectification and therefore deny men that power of influence, to whatever extent it exists.)

[eamonn]

This could be a beautiful story.

I really hope it turns out that Emery is the one that makes him tick. He was no great shakes for us before Unai arrived, and has been largely poor since leaving us. I’m trying to forget his last six months with us when his form massively tailed off.

It's become a cliché to say that about his last few months but I'm pretty sure he put in important performances in our drive to finish 4th.

[ChicagoLion]

Thanks for clearing that up Rory, I have never heard a bloke say I really like women that look like they have had a big black spider stuck to their eyelids or their lips pumped up like a car tyre.

[andyh]

I’ve never really known the correct term for all those ‘perfect’ blokes who feel obligated talk about women’s appearance so casually.
Is it misogyny? Is it chauvinism? Or is it just being a c.unt ?

[markeeeebeeee2005]

All 3.

Good to have Dougie back. He’s emblematic of the resurgence of Aston Villa. I hope and think this will be a really shrewd move and he’ll hit the ground running and bring experience and creativity that we’ll miss with Youri out. The reports of his lack of mobility do concern me a little, but I trust Unai to know best.

[Olneythelonely]

I’ve never really known the correct term for all those ‘perfect’ blokes who feel obligated talk about women’s appearance so casually.
Is it misogyny? Is it chauvinism? Or is it just being a c.unt ?

Incel is the word of today.

[Olneythelonely]

I don't really think we need to prolong this, but just for academic interest, two of my former girlfriend's best friends at Cambridge did a lot of postgrad research on gender studies and it was both surprising (to me, as a male, with my own presumptions and so on) and illuminating to hear them talk about how much contemporary pressures to conform to beauty standards are actually dictated by female influences and are unrelated to male preferences.*

An example they often cited was the 'does my bum look big in this?' phenomenon, where research has repeatedly shown that a woman having a larger arse is seen by a vast majority of men as either a neutral or a positive, whereas it's still a source of anxiety for a large number of women.

*(This was qualified with the awareness that, potentially, such theories are shaped by women's post-feminist desire to reject male objectification and therefore deny men that power of influence, to whatever extent it exists.)

I’m in no doubt that females are influenced by what the females they see in film, on tv and in magazines look like.

But the reason that those women in film, on tv and in magazines feel they need to conform to beauty standards is due to men. Undeniably.

But yeah, you’re right about not prolonging it, not convinced the Douglas Luiz thread is the best place for this.

[Smithy]

This could be a beautiful story.

I really hope it turns out that Emery is the one that makes him tick. He was no great shakes for us before Unai arrived, and has been largely poor since leaving us. I’m trying to forget his last six months with us when his form massively tailed off.

It's become a cliché to say that about his last few months but I'm pretty sure he put in important performances in our drive to finish 4th.

It's also worth remembering he was being asked to play more of the Kamara role from Feb onwards, rather than his role complementing Kamara.  His form definitely dropped off compared to the first half of the season, but he was being asked to play a different sort of game next to Youri.  For the rest of the season, I'd imagine he's going to be asked to play more of the Youri role in that equation.