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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4680 on: June 10, 2024, 07:30:20 PM »
Potentially not but none of us know where we are on the PSR stuff, our appetite to risk a breach, or Doug’s view. It makes it really hard to assess what will actually happen. I hope he stays, but I fear he won’t.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4681 on: June 10, 2024, 07:35:00 PM »
If we were potentially looking to cash in on Doug, I wonder if the price is potentially lower until next month as it would be better for our books?

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4682 on: June 10, 2024, 08:40:37 PM »
Potentially not but none of us know where we are on the PSR stuff, our appetite to risk a breach, or Doug’s view. It makes it really hard to assess what will actually happen. I hope he stays, but I fear he won’t.

I’d be tempted to take the points deduction if I was NSWE. But then if I was NSWE I’d sell Bodymoor, the inner-city academy,  the Holte Hotel and the club shop to myself - like, if I had to.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4683 on: June 10, 2024, 09:17:09 PM »
Two issues at large here , FFP and a possible release clause. I think we need better if we want to progress in the EPL and ECL, Luiz is a great top 5-8 player but has hit his ceiling inho.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4684 on: June 10, 2024, 09:25:21 PM »
Two issues at large here , FFP and a possible release clause. I think we need better if we want to progress in the EPL and ECL, Luiz is a great top 5-8 player but has hit his ceiling inho.

I think you’re very wrong in your assessment.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4685 on: June 10, 2024, 09:26:14 PM »
Two issues at large here , FFP and a possible release clause. I think we need better if we want to progress in the EPL and ECL, Luiz is a great top 5-8 player but has hit his ceiling inho.

I think you’re very wrong in your assessment.
Why ?

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4686 on: June 10, 2024, 09:30:24 PM »
Well there’s a reason he gets linked with the clubs he does. If you think his ceiling is 5-9 you presumably didn’t watch him in the first of the season or the second half of last season. That’s when he was able to play his best role and he was one of the best players in the league.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4687 on: June 10, 2024, 09:33:51 PM »
Well there’s a reason he gets linked with the clubs he does. If you think his ceiling is 5-9 you presumably didn’t watch him in the first of the season or the second half of last season. That’s when he was able to play his best role and he was one of the best players in the league.
I think he's a really good player I do , but when we got in the pressure cooker those last couple of months he went into his shell. Also too many errors , silly fouls committed , turnovers etc (see wolves away) .
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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4688 on: June 10, 2024, 09:34:58 PM »
It's better than months or so ago when he, and the rest of the players, weren't top 10 standard.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4689 on: June 10, 2024, 09:36:29 PM »
Or his drop in form coincided exactly with Kamara getting injured and him having to take on a role that clearly isn’t his best. The ceiling, if he’s reached it, is what he did in the first half of the season. That is pretty special.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4690 on: June 10, 2024, 09:50:20 PM »
It's better than months or so ago when he, and the rest of the players, weren't top 10 standard.
Yes but I'm not using that yardstick, for where we want to go , Win the league and European cup I think we need better in this critical role .

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4691 on: June 10, 2024, 10:04:40 PM »
But as demonstrated he can be one of the best midfielders in the league.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4692 on: June 10, 2024, 10:07:46 PM »
But as demonstrated he can be one of the best midfielders in the league.
Agree, it's a shame we didn't have him and Kamara as a pair for the second half the season , plus Mings Buendia Ramsey . With them we are in the top 2 I think.

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4693 on: June 10, 2024, 10:10:09 PM »
How many of our players weren't blowing out of their assholes in the last six weeks?  The Kamara injury effectively left the midfield in a pretty difficult situation. 

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Re: Douglas Luiz - Confirmed confirmed
« Reply #4694 on: June 10, 2024, 10:17:24 PM »
I like everyone else don’t know financially exactly where we are and what we may or may not need to do.
But Douglas Luiz and Boubacar Kamara on form playing together are as good a pair of midfield players in the Premier League. They were a big part of why we dominated Manchester City last December among many other teams during last season
To lose one would be a big setback and not easy to replace.

 


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