Douglas Luiz - coming back?

[Louzie0]

I will miss Doug, he brought class, awareness, excitement and cracking penalties to our steady improvement under Emery. I’m really glad he’s not elsewhere in the Premier League! Good luck to him.

[Dogtanian]

He was a bit too good-looking though.

[edgysatsuma89]

He was a bit too good-looking though.

I think he knew this, so he tried hampering himself with his hair by the end.

[itbrvilla]

Will miss his smile...

[Dogtanian]

He was a bit too good-looking though.

I think he knew this, so he tried hampering himself with his hair by the end.

Been there myself. 

In the end, I had to thin my hair out, develop crows feet, and live off takeaways in order to give the other fellas a chance.

[trinityoap]

I tried that but it didn't seem to work.

[purpletrousers]

I'll miss him, we'll miss him, but we'll be fine in the long run.  I thank him for everything, I've loved watching him grow with us.  He should have been nearer £80m for me, but guess circumstances and all that!

It shows what an utter crock of shit PSR is when you have to sell a key player and asset for far lower than market value. That sounds like the total opposite of anything to do with profit or sustainability.

How is it below market value ? A lump of cash plus 2 decent players ? Sounds about right .

Indeed. From the FFP thread:

Interesting that the fees involved seem on the low side.
£42M for Luiz, Iling Jr £12M, Berrenchea £7M, when all the talk was around £60M for Luiz, and £20M each for the 2 players coming in.
I'm no accounting expert, but i reckon some deal was done to keep the figures relatively low between the 2 clubs.
Same as the deal with Everton for Tim and Dobbin.

As the saying goes, turnover is vanity, profit is sanity (and Matty Cash is reality).

Keeping the Dougie fee low would minimise any slice of the pie to Man City.
Ignoring add ons presumably, that reads £23m profit, keeps the spending down across the contract period lengths.

Presuming we got enough in to balance part years books, then it’s about keeping spending low on the years ahead, so better sell for £42m and buy for £12m & £7m, than sell £62m and buy £22m and £17m which if their potential is good might have been more realistic prices.

Rather than feeling Dougie undervalued, it seems we might be playing a blinder within the rules here, deals suiting Villa, Juve, Chelsea, Everton, clearly a lot of work gone in to get this right.

Wrong thread really, but my only worry is filing the UEFA quota for 4 club developed players https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(UEFA) and whether/how much Philogene would have cost to bring back, but presumably not an area we needed to sadly.

[VillaTim]

We have Archer back now don't we ?

[purpletrousers]

Archer- I doubt for long, but be interesting what Unai does.

Also obviously the Dougie deal was cooked up well in advance, and we didn’t strengthen a domestic rival with him, but worked cooperatively with a non-domestic rival. Finally I’m prepared to read it that we might have done better to get the Baron who wasn’t their first choice to release, especially as the DM was the position in need.

[SamTheMouse]

The brilliant thing about this is that now we're back among the big boys where we belong, we can sell a really cracking player without everybody wanting to jump out of a window.

We've got loads of 'em.

[olaftab]

Douglas Luiz on Instagram:

“The time has come to say see you soon, Villa Park. I want to start by thanking everyone (club, players, fans & staff). This was a place where I felt at home — you fans made an impact on my career & you will never be forgotten by me. I will miss you! I hope I made you very proud. You can be sure that I always tried to give my best version — as a player & as a human being. It was 5 years of many joys, celebrations, struggles, learning, games, fun & many other things. Now I will continue my life at another club, but my fans & passion for you will never fade. Thank you for everything Aston Villa.”

This means nothing. He wanted to get away and was hoping for Arsenal but that didn't happen so he is happy to join a shite club. They are all same. Once they have left Villa fuck em.

[Smithy]

The brilliant thing about this is that now we're back among the big boys where we belong, we can sell a really cracking player without everybody wanting to jump out of a window.

We've got loads of 'em.

This is actually a really good point.  It's never good losing one of your better players, and it will never be something we can simply shrug off, but our squad is about as strong as it's ever been, to the extent that losing someone as good as Dougie is (hopefully) not going to affect us too much at all.

[Brend'Watkins]

Douglas Luiz on Instagram:

“The time has come to say see you soon, Villa Park. I want to start by thanking everyone (club, players, fans & staff). This was a place where I felt at home — you fans made an impact on my career & you will never be forgotten by me. I will miss you! I hope I made you very proud. You can be sure that I always tried to give my best version — as a player & as a human being. It was 5 years of many joys, celebrations, struggles, learning, games, fun & many other things. Now I will continue my life at another club, but my fans & passion for you will never fade. Thank you for everything Aston Villa.”

This means nothing. He wanted to get away and was hoping for Arsenal but that didn't happen so he is happy to join a shite club. They are all same. Once they have left Villa fuck em.

He has to say something and what he’s said is what you’d expect where there is no animosity. He’s been good for us, we’ve been good for him and his development. He doesn’t know it yet but he will look back at some point in the future and realise that his time at Villa was the best part of his career.

[Percy McCarthy]

The brilliant thing about this is that now we're back among the big boys where we belong, we can sell a really cracking player without everybody wanting to jump out of a window.

We've got loads of 'em.

Yes, and lots of them are the much parroted ‘pure profit’. It’s what annoyed about everybody mindlessly repeating the press narrative that it had to be JJ.

Tielemans, Kamara, McGinn, Martinez, Watkins, Konsa, Cash and of course Luiz have been here long enough to fall into that category now, and they will be joined/replaced by the current intake as long as they do well and stay for a few years.

As long as we buy good players at the right age we’ve got nothing to worry about.

[Percy McCarthy]

^^ Sorted.