VAR

[Toronto Villa]

My point bringing up rugby is on how VAR is used. There has been far too much investment for it to be binned. And it ultimately gets more right than wrong. But it is how it is used that’s the issue. And specifically by way of transparency and communication by the officials/VAR team to fans in the ground and watching on TV. That’s what needs to improve. Quicker decisions; a redefining of the term “clear and obvious” so that only those on field mistakes are corrected, clearly articulated to all.

[Martyn Smith]

When VAR wasn't there people moaned because refs were frequently making wrong decisions

Now it is here and still occasionally gets it wrong because, y'know, at the end of the day it's still people making the final decisions, they want it scrapped altogether.

Sometimes I think some people are only happy if they are moaning

[Martyn Smith]

The TMO audio isn't heard in grounds. Not every football game is broadcast in this country. To eavesdrop on any conversation would just be pandering to someone sat on a sofa potentially thousands of miles away.

|Every game of top flight rugby game I've been to had vendors outside selling comms devices for a few quid where you can listen in to the ref.

RefLink. But it doesn't alter the fact that unlike a lot of people seem to think, because they only ever watch it on the telly, the audio is not broadcast via the pa in the grounds.

They as part of the ticket get given these little radios, or did last time I spoke to anyone who had just been to a rugby match, which was in Wales 20 years ago.

I imagine there's an app now or some such...

[Exeter 77]

It is the use of VAR which is the thing. The way it was used a the World Cup last year was mostly how it should be used but the way PGMOL choose to use it is not.

[Lastfootstamper]

"People" weren't moaning. Managers were. The rest of us had moved on by the time we'd got home for our tea.

[Martyn Smith]

"People" weren't moaning. Managers were. The rest of us had moved on by the time we'd got home for our tea.

Hmmm... and the fact that Vidic stayed on the pitch when he should have been sent off, and would have been today without doubt, doesn't linger 13 1/2 years on, at all...

[Martyn Smith]

Refs on the pitch get about 90-95 % of decisions right. VAR I would say gets 90-95% of the wrong decisions right on review.

If it is scrapped, then with a few months there will be a clamour to bring it back

[RamboandBruno]

"People" weren't moaning. Managers were. The rest of us had moved on by the time we'd got home for our tea.

Hmmm... and the fact that Vidic stayed on the pitch when he should have been sent off, and would have been today without doubt, doesn't linger 13 1/2 years on, at all...

Are we convinced VAR would of intervened in the right way. Another poster earlier highlighted one if the differences with Rugby is the Ref seems to double check the decision made with the var. in football it frequently feels like those operating var trying to re ref the games and sometimes trying to find a way to justify a decision. One of the worst examples in my biased view, was our FA Cup game away at Man Utd in Jan 2022, when those operating var went back through 3 or 4 phases of play before they found a reason to disallow Danny Ings’ equaliser. Thats misuse and not having the crowd in the ground or at home hearing whats being discussed aggravates the problem

[Lsvilla]

The TMO audio isn't heard in grounds. Not every football game is broadcast in this country. To eavesdrop on any conversation would just be pandering to someone sat on a sofa potentially thousands of miles away.

|Every game of top flight rugby game I've been to had vendors outside selling comms devices for a few quid where you can listen in to the ref.

RefLink. But it doesn't alter the fact that unlike a lot of people seem to think, because they only ever watch it on the telly, the audio is not broadcast via the pa in the grounds.

No it's not. And there's no headsets available to buy here in Marseille.

[Legion]

No longer fit for purpose. Was it ever?

[Gareth]

Using it was the most clear and obvious error - in the bin for me

[Cliftonville Villlain]

Was all for it coming in but not to be a plaything for four idiots in a room. If today's debacles don't consign it to the bin then nothing will.

[ROBBO]

Why do they not show the white line in all offside decisions?

[ChicagoLion]

One if the idiots on the radio saying they could not learn anything from Rugby which is obviously wrong.
For some reason PGMOL are fighting to protect the way they use the technology. One has to consider why a for profit organisation thinks like this.

[andyh]

Why not just extend goal line technology so that it covers lines all round the pitch ?