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Online Flamingo Lane

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2880 on: August 25, 2023, 08:53:34 PM »
So Mr Dean, you've admitted acting dishonestly in that instance - so why should we believe you haven't acted dishonestly in others?

Online astonvilla82

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« Reply #2881 on: August 25, 2023, 09:31:28 PM »
So Mr Dean, you've admitted acting dishonestly in that instance - so why should we believe you haven't acted dishonestly in others?
Simon Jordan normally rips into people concerning things like this,such as Toney match fixing, but today he didn't, was it because Dean admitted it on his podcast show, gutless

Offline LeonW

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« Reply #2882 on: August 26, 2023, 07:53:44 AM »
As I've said many times the best change that could come to VAR is to make the audio available.

The system works in Rugby and Cricket because, if you want to, you can hear the conversation between the on-field official and the TV ref. It wouldn't fix the specific issue that Dean raised there (which is gross negligence and not a VAR specific problem) but it would remove a lot of the problems.

How you play that out in the ground is more difficult but the little radios work reasonably well for the cricket and rugby so probably copy them there as well.

What the existence of VAR does do though is acknowledge that the rules (or more accurately how they're used) at the very highest level of sport has to be different to park matches. Trying to continue with the "it's the same game at every level" thing was commendable but hasn't really made worked since the amount of footage available and the money involved went through the roof in the early 90s.

I don’t think they’ll ever have the VAR audio available in real time because it will confirm what we all know and what Dean admitted to recently.

Which is exactly why we need it and why people should push for it.

I’m all in favour of it but there’s no way it will ever happen because it will demonstrate what we already know.

Online astonvilla82

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2883 on: August 26, 2023, 12:05:45 PM »
Mike Dean on sky Saturday football now

Offline DB

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2884 on: August 26, 2023, 12:12:48 PM »
Get rid of VAR. More trouble than it’s worth. Game was better before.

Offline Exeter 77

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2885 on: August 26, 2023, 12:16:23 PM »
VAR the way it was used at Hibs on Wednesday was fine. The way is is used in the Premier League by PGMOL is far from fine.

Online Neil Hawkes

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« Reply #2886 on: August 26, 2023, 12:29:37 PM »
VAR the way it was used at Hibs on Wednesday was fine. The way is is used in the Premier League by PGMOL is far from fine.
Fully agree and you wonder why the Premier league VAR is so difficult to implement properly...........said entirely tongue in cheek.

Offline villadelph

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2887 on: August 29, 2023, 05:13:24 PM »
Referee of the Juventus v Bologna match over the weekend banned for a MONTH over a non-penalty call for Dan Ndoye and Bologna.

Wow!

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2888 on: August 29, 2023, 05:14:21 PM »
Fuck me, we'd have no refs if we did that over here.

Online astonvilla82

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2889 on: August 30, 2023, 08:12:41 PM »
It's my belief that referees and VAR officials don't want it because it shows up there incompetent and also biase to certain teams, there a different between that's maybe a penalty to that's definitely a penalty and so forth

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2890 on: October 14, 2023, 05:55:43 PM »
Watching a bit of the rugby WC. Their VAR system is just superb. I know it’s a different game in terms of rugby is more stop start anyway, but just the speed and transparency is incredibly. On TV they show the discussion and video being reviewed.

Offline RamboandBruno

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« Reply #2891 on: October 14, 2023, 06:03:27 PM »
Watching a bit of the rugby WC. Their VAR system is just superb. I know it’s a different game in terms of rugby is more stop start anyway, but just the speed and transparency is incredibly. On TV they show the discussion and video being reviewed.

Just watched the Wales game and thought exactly the same. Different game or not, there is no reason for it not to be operated in football in the same way.

Offline Nev

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2892 on: October 14, 2023, 08:01:32 PM »
The point that it's not the same game is that it's not the same game.

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2893 on: October 14, 2023, 09:31:41 PM »
The point that it's not the same game is that it's not the same game.

Yes, there is a lack of respect among players and fans for officials.
The regulations enforced and stated by refs in rugby by being mic'd up should be implemented similarly for officials in football, however it would be difficult for some players in particular to speak without using offensive language.
They essentially lack discipline.

If a player is not booked anyway or sent off then I would like to see yellow card sin bin for players who make those cynical fouls those so called tactical ones. Similarly for any hand ball made. 10 mins off the pitch.
Teach the footballer discipline. Bring them in to line.




Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: VAR
« Reply #2894 on: October 14, 2023, 10:18:25 PM »
The point that it's not the same game is that it's not the same game.
And? The processes could still be applied in the same way, transparency etc

 


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